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Poll: Vote for Best Appearing "Rods and Rails" entry (29 member(s) have cast votes)

Please choose one, Thanks for your interest.

  1. Don S. owned Fiat Rod (7 votes [24.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.14%

  2. Paul E. owned VW "Inch Pincher" Rod (10 votes [34.48%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.48%

  3. David C. owned T/E style Smokum Rail (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. David C. owned T/E style Smokum 2 Rail (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. David C. owned T/E style Smokum 4 Rail (1 votes [3.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.45%

  6. Bob I. owned "Ghost Valiant" Rod (11 votes [37.93%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.93%

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#1 Gator Bob

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 10:01 PM

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Only six of the pre-registered cars passed the full rule set and are eligible for the Best Appearing Award.

Per the consensuses request the vote for the Best Appearing would be by open puplic poll and the Best Engineered award would be based on the proxy drivers on race day. Congratulations to David C. for winning the the Best Engineered award! 

 

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:15 PM

Voting will close and award will be set at 6PM Eastern Time (US & Canada) on 5/28/2014.

 

Open to comments and thanks for looking!


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:21 PM

Will there be details on each rail posted ? Motor/arm, gears, Wheels and tires ? frame (custom made or bought)


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:34 PM

I forget which one is which, but if anyone is interested, I can post specifics when they get back  or Bob can eyeball them. The chassis are all K&B clones, the motors are pittman 85s or the Ram versions, rear tires are varied, front wheels are mostly old Strombeckers. 


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:01 PM

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 06:40 PM

I forget which one is which, but if anyone is interested, I can post specifics when they get back  or Bob can eyeball them. The chassis are all K&B clones, the motors are pittman 85s or the Ram versions, rear tires are varied, front wheels are mostly old Strombeckers. 

 

Dave, the cars are on the way home.

Beautiful machines. :good:


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:01 PM

I learned to drive on a white '61 Valiant, slant 6, 3-speed on the floor. Bob, until you first showed your silver Valiant, I had forgotten all about that car. Thanks. :) You don't have a '53 Ford tractor in your car collection do you? :laugh2:


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:28 PM

Hey Bill,

Glad I could jog that learn to drive a stick shift memory for you.

 

1953 .... yup. But no more.

Nice NAA Golden Jubilee with a trip bucket. Didn't have it very long, maybe 6 months ... all the IH Farmall tractors I had scared it off the farm even though the Ford was 1/2 red.. LOL


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 10:53 AM

The Fiat is an ebay find, so very much period! It's a magwinder setup (chassis serves as motor endplates), but in aluminum, and I believe a Ram motor with an epoxied arm.

 

I found the chassis pretty much as shown, cleaned it up, replaced a few nuts and bolts and the front wheels, one of which was frozen, and found the Fiat body that seemed to match it pretty well.

 

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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:06 AM

The Fiat is an ebay find, so very much period! It's a magwinder setup (chassis serves as motor endplates), but in aluminum, and I believe a Ram motor with an epoxied arm.

 

I found the chassis pretty much as shown, cleaned it up, replaced a few nuts and bolts and the front wheels, one of which was frozen, and found the Fiat body that seemed to match it pretty well.

 

Don

 

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The Fiat came out great and fit the program like a glove. The only drawback to its 'race-ability' was that its over-powered   :bb: for the short wheelbase.

Great motor. Might be the King of HP in the race. :king:

 

One of the things that was shocking to me was that BadBill's 'Best' red rail coupe was an ebay find as was many/most of his other cars that he brought in.  :to_take_umbrage:


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:24 AM

Certainly was a cool find Don :D Wonder what the motor would do in a longer rail? Certainly appears to be as Bob says one powerful mill :shok:

 

BadBill scored that Rail & others from epay.... Wow! Have  to keep my eyes open ! :laugh2:



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Posted 22 May 2014 - 11:40 AM

I was lucky enough to have seen all these cars run that night, kudos Gator Bob!  His valiant was really cool and ran consistent, he gets my vote for appearance! (my neighbor 2 blocks away when i was a kid had 2 of them on trailers racing at the track most weekends)

 

The hillbilly car (1st place bracket) was piloted by my buddy a rookie bracketeer and again I was lucky enough to get to run a few test laps to set up and dial in that car.  It ran 2.08 every time except once a 2.06 because jethro forgot to wipe the track clean before staging.  Lots and lots of red lights and yellow break outs!  I think everyone was dazed and confuzed oogling at all the cars to pull good lights and ET's, heck I ran back to look at time sheets in my pit more than once.  Hillbilly car driver didn't even know what was going on, he said he didn't start trying until the announcement of '7 cars left'.  Now days later I found out he thought to red light the final race so his dyno car could win...but he heard someone shout 'This race is for the trophy' moments before the finals.  (it was me in the back of the room so he would get serious - too funny!) I ran the orange rail dyno can and the yellow chrysler truck (2nd and 3rd) - both sweet off the line!  I have the racer's slips for the hillbilly car and yellow truck at the Orange City track if car owners want them.  I didn't write on them, but could get racer signatures on their respective last slips :)

 

Bob - let's make that roundy round smash 'em Hardbody Vintage race happen in September! 


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 03:04 PM

Hey Charlie,

 

Great report on the finals!

 

 

The Beverly Hillbillies "Bodine Bomber" truck and the yellow/black '41 Chevy lumber yard truck are my creations and I'd be DELIGHTED to have their signed winning timeslips for future gloating. I'll pm you my address info if you'd be so kind as to drop them in the mail. :dance3:

 

Thanks to you and your buddies for the great eyeballs and trigger fingers and also for setting up the cars.

 

You and Garold did a fine job launching the winners as well as Eric cutting the 8 thou light with my backwards bug. :good:

 

Sure wish I was couple thousand miles closer to you all so I could join in the fun. Your club sounds like a great bunch of guys.

 

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 07:37 PM

As requested by Bob here's a couple 'O pictures of the Bug after returning home safely :good: Plus a quick recap on the build.

 

When I first entered the Proxy I didn't have a clue what I was doing :laugh2: No experience with building dragsters let alone racing them, not knowing if my roundy roundy car experience would transfer to the straight line only.

 

To that end after saying a tentative "put me down for an entry" I went looking on the bay of "E" for some parts... Turned up a messy Kemtron chassis with what appeared to be a Hot Pittman 85 or possible RAM equivalent, with cut down lams & lightened end plates ( although the pics were very fuzzy ) I took a chance & won it ... Turned up with a 7 pole RAM arm that had been tied all over the place & healthy dose of epoxy along with a rough home balancing job.

 

 

anyway, after seeing a badly worn comm I obtained another arm this time of the 3V / 7 pole RAM  of the Kemtron variety ( thanks Jeff!!) Also I needed some DC85 brushes and a spring/plunger which Don Siegel :D  helped with along with a DC85 motor which was destined for a rail which never got built in time . With a year to build this motor will come in handy!!!

 

With the Beetle body being so narrow a sidewinder and inline (with motor on it's side like a Kemtron X503) were out of the question so taking a leaf out of ROAR's book placing these motors standing upright inline it fitted perfectly inside the bodyshell, plus being upright it placed the motor nicely between front & rear for good weight distribution ( or that's what I guessed/hoped for !!!) ..

 

Move forward to less than a couple of weeks till the race I finally bolt both motors together and worst thing happened.... The motor that the Bug had been built around didn't work,so hoping it would work ,the 2 motors were shipped off to Rick T /DC65x for a visit to his raceway Zapper (Thanks Rick!!) Luckily it was a dead magnet that stopped it from working, with only a few days to go it was a scary first ever airbrush job & tires were glued & hand trued on a drill Wednesday.... Car spun up on the supply for final true and packed & shipped express last Thursday , arriving on Friday with Bill Pinch !!!

 

 

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:32 PM

For the record.

 

The 1962 Valiant Ghost

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It all came together rather quickly starting back in January..

 

The concept was born here > Building an old-fashioned padlock-powered drag car< ... when Joe Lupo said "How about a proxy race for drag cars." 

 

It has taken on a life of its own, and what fun it is.

There will be a 2nd Annual "Rods and Rails" drag proxy.

 

The Valiant Ghost entry was built from all NOS parts.

  • Kemtron Chassis kit, jig built
  • Kemtron 503 8v motor, stock exept for stretched brush springs and vented brush retainer caps, 'not zapped'
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  • K&S - for drop arm weight and body mounts
  • Pattos- body
  • Champion - interior

 

I built and painted the car myself.

The car was not tested on any track before race day, only on power supply.

It did bigger wheelies than expected with that heavy motor, I should have put a drop arm stop on it. Good thing left the 'fuel tank' option off.

 

To get best appearing from the local racers with such a 'bad pull' body was a pleasant surprise. It kinda does look better in person vs. pictures. It must have been pulled over a static model body(?). The 'fogged up' windows made it so the driver couldn't see you... lol

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

It went together great & ran superb Bob :good: Great job putting it together :D

 

Would be intriguing how well that powerful X503 would work in a small rail car kind of similar length to the shortest of Davids 3 rails :) Just like seeing what Don's epoxied/rewound RAM would be like in something that would keep the front down !

 

With a view to get cracking on designing,parts gathering and building a fleet of cars for the next one would it be safe to figure on the Padlock/'67 cutoff with the same dimensional rules as before? Could be making an extra vintage one that would specifically run in the all against all bracket race  :to_become_senile:  with some extra :wizard: :laugh2:



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:49 PM

Hey Charlie,

 

Great report on the finals!

 

 

The Beverly Hillbillies "Bodine Bomber" truck and the yellow/black '41 Chevy lumber yard truck are my creations and I'd be DELIGHTED to have their signed winning timeslips for future gloating. I'll pm you my address info if you'd be so kind as to drop them in the mail. :dance3:

 

Thanks to you and your buddies for the great eyeballs and trigger fingers and also for setting up the cars.

 

You and Garold did a fine job launching the winners as well as Eric cutting the 8 thou light with my backwards bug. :good:

 

Sure wish I was couple thousand miles closer to you all so I could join in the fun. Your club sounds like a great bunch of guys.

 

Bob Steere

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You got it, send address in PM and I'll forward driver's time slips.

 

Gator Bob - nice chassis and jigwork!

 

SlotStox - nice inch pincher!


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 04:50 PM

Paul, I didn't have time to mess with this, but we are on the same channel.....

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 04:58 PM

Another rail David :D !! That looks sweet ,is it another K&B clone?  nice set of Candies :good:



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 05:08 PM

Yes,it is a shrunken clone.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 05:17 PM

Like the look of the shorter ones , should be interesting to see how the Kemtron motor does in the rail setup :good:



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 05:32 PM

They all look great, but it was a toss up for me between the InchPincher and the Valiant.

 

If the VW was red like the one Dan Gurney drove, I would have picked it, but had to go with Valiant as I had a 62 push button in my younger days.

 

Well done event Bob, you done good.

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:41 PM

Thanks for the comp Steve K.! :sun_bespectacled: I'll even take the vote too   :blush:  

 

The "glue" was cleaned off (OMG what a mess) and the car is "back in the box".

 

Don S, do you want me to keep the polls open till you get your car back and can post your favorite pictures on here?

 

Paul E., The rules will not change much, I might add an in-line open frame class but it will still be a single no neo magnet motor rule.

 

David C., what Kemtron model motor is that in rail the you just posted pictures of?


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 06:03 AM

Bob I think that's a Kemtron Mustang in that rail :good: & 10-4 on the rules .

Oh really silly question but what's best to use to get that glue off ? Never messed with the stuff before :laugh2:

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:32 AM

Bob, yes it's a Mustang with a 1/8" shaft, the Bronco is the same only 3/32" shaft (I think). That is a scaled-down K&B also produced by hotrodfab many years ago. I guess I knew there would be a race sooner or later...


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:35 AM

BTW,  have all of the Pittman 84-85-86 and Ram 850-857 type motors dried up? I haven't looked in years, but I can't even find the Strombecker version anywhere??


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:09 AM

They still come up pretty often, but unlabeled and in lots. Haven't seen too many in boxes for awhile. Since a bunch of the Strombecker DC706 clone popped up a year or two ago in cartons, maybe the same will happen with the DC85 clone... I may have a few extras, but will have to check my endless boxes

 

Bob, you don't have to wait for me for the voting, the photos were already pretty clear... are we the entrants allowed to vote by the way? (not for our own of course...),

 

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 09:24 AM

Don the entrants can indeed vote :good:

David I haven't seen any of the RAM motors turn up at all , every once in a while the dc85's etc do turn up.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 12:28 PM

Guys,

 

Gator Bob has received a week's time-out from posting to Slotblog, so it'll be a few days before he can again post to this thread.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 07:31 PM

We have a tie again just as we did for the BA vote on race day.
 
So .... as the only BoD member and Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler of the Racoon Lodge I hereby cast the Deciding Vote (@11:00).

 

We will not have a runoff or a recount.

With that said I am proud to announce that the 'Best Appearing Award' for the 2014 edition of the 1st annual Rods and Rails Proxy goes to....

 

insert drumroll ..... the ..."Inch Pincher" I/Gas VW as presented by Paul English (aka, SlotStox#53)

 

:clapping:  :clapping:  :clapping:  :clapping: Way to go Paul !!! :good:


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:50 PM

:D Thanks Bob !!!!! :D

The competition all round was very close & makes this 1st annual Drag Proxy a success! !! Here's to next year :good:

Great to have you back :good:

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:30 PM

Bob, I like those Champion red anodized jig wheels. :good:


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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:06 PM

Bob, I like those Champion red anodized jig wheels. :good:

 

 

 

:good: "Old School" Champion :wub:  :to_become_senile:

I have both types of those old Champion 'chassis jigs' too  :crazy:  :laugh2:


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