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#1 IRRA Retro Racing

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 09:37 AM

Please put your questions and comments in this thread.

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 12:52 PM

Overall, a good effort. Some questions:

Why is the maximum chassis width 3.125 while the maximum body width is 3.25?

Drilled hub rear tires are not allowed. I understand the intent of this is probably to eliminate the more exensive, higher performance tires. However, there are tires that have holes or slots primarily for realism, e.g. Pro-Track. Are these also disallowed?

Is narrowing of rear tires allowed?

Will there be a disparity in performance between the 4002B and the other motors?

Gluing the track by individual racers is prohibited. What about glue on the tires?

Lane selection for each main is by random draw. With no qualifying, does this also apply to how racers are placed in each main?

Will there be an incentive to move from the GT Flexi class to the scratchbuilt classes? If so, what?

What is the procedure for submitting bodies (or other items) for consideration as approved parts?

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 01:16 PM

Also WHY can't you rebuild your own Euro motor? Why do you have to use the refurbishing program? Most people can easily refresh their motors themselves.

And why are you allow Flexi front ends like the East Coast series? Are you just using the tongue portion or can you the whole front end including the wing tips?

And finally, isn't this just another spin-off of D3, although I do like the body list. As much as I hate to admit it, the original D3 rules are the ones we should all follow. Period.
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Posted 19 November 2007 - 01:45 PM

...And why are you allowing Flexi front ends like the East Coast series? Are you just using the tongue portion or can you use the whole front end including the wing tips?

(Copied from The Rules)
"Chassis Materials: Brass: sheet, rod, and tube; steel: wire, pin tubing, and commercial guide tongues are allowed. Steel tongues cut from center sections of Flexi chassis, such as Parma Flexi 2 or 3, JK Cheetahs, etc., may be used until January 1, 2009, but cannot be cut off any farther back than 3/8" (9.53mm) behind the front axle and are limited to a maximum 1" (25.4mm) width. No other materials are allowed. Chassis parts, such as pans, brackets, guide tongues, etc., that are made using EDM, laser, or water-cutting techniques are allowed only if they are individual commercially-available components or components of chassis kits (i.e. these techniques maynot be used in the private manufacture of one-off components). Materials such as printed circuit boards are not legal. A three-sided motor bracket must be used. The motor bracket must support the motor and extend to touch the rear axle tube. The axle tube does not need to travel through the motor bracket. The motor must be screwed to the motor bracket and it can also be soldered in. Floating pin tubes inside another tube are allowed."

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Posted 19 November 2007 - 04:09 PM

These here Official International Guidelines sure do look much like Rules to me, they're even called Rules... :laugh2:
If I were paranoid I'd even think Larry & I were being selected out for special attention:

Materials such as printed circuit boards are not legal.

Or maybe it's just the Department of Redundancy that felt this sort of repetition was necessary:

Brass: sheet, rod, and tube; steel: wire, pin tubing, and commercial guide tongues are allowed.
No other materials are allowed.

Perhaps the Guidelines, er...Rules don't need to be so specific.
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Posted 19 November 2007 - 04:13 PM

Don't the Brits use the metric system? :shok:
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Posted 19 November 2007 - 09:08 PM

I had asked this question in the East Coast Forum but have not received an answer yet so here it goes.

Can a rectangular brass tube be used for pin tubes instead of a square tube provided the movement of the pin tubes is in the same direction, or in place of, the pan movement provided the movement is either up and down or front to back?

Do the rear tires have to be covered by the body or can they be revealed provided the axle tube is not showing?

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:03 AM

Don't the Brits use the metric system?

We're versatile, Ray. You hum it and we'll play it.

Inches, feet, miles?
Take a guess why it's called the Imperial system (over here at least)?

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 07:42 AM

Don't the Brits use the metric system? :shok:

Ray is a jokester for sure. I know he saw that all the measurements included mm.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 12:20 PM

A couple of questions please.

When a 4002 or 4002B motor is sent to be refurbished, what services will be performed? Will endbell blue printing, as long as the seal is left intact, be allowed by the motor owner?

For the Flexi division, will the Cheetah 11 and new ProSlot FX frame be allowed? There seems to be discussion as to whether these frames are "true" Flexis without the plate under the motor.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 01:06 PM

Just wanted to point out that answers to some questions posted in this thread will be made after discussion among the IRRA board members.

Because of this process, there may be a delay in receiving responses to questions asked here. While "same day service" is the goal, there may be cases where responses will take a day or two to be posted.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:07 PM

I thought all of the "posters" on Slotblog had to use their real name rather than an alias??? How do we know who is answering these questions?? Is there favoritism within Slotblog to the IRRA??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:08 PM

I just noticed that too and kindly ask the person to post his real name as everyone else as per the forum rules, thank you.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:03 PM

Reads like Noose to me. :lol:

Incidentally who fell asleep at the IRRA control panel last night if you know what I mean. :bomb:
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:22 PM

More like... who left the door unlocked and opened??? Did you enjoy your reading there? ;)

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:33 PM

I really didn't feel guilty checking it out. :D The door was open again at 1:00 AM EST so I did lose a little sleep. You had to be logged off to get in. Very well done but boring reading with no surprises.
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:37 PM

The problem with that private forum being visible was due to my screwing up the permission matrices when I rearranged the board a few days ago. So if you want to blame someone, I'm your guy. And yes, it was the guest user group that got in the unlocked door.

Hope you enjoyed your reading, and recognized that the folks involved in the IRRA are working together as a team.

Incidently, the IRRA Retro Racing ID is being used by multiple people, Noose and I being among the group. The posts here are being made on behalf on an entity, the IRRA, and do not represent the views of any one person, but rather the answers agreed-upon by the IRRA Board as a group.

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:41 PM

So do I become a member of the committee, or do I get whacked. :wacko:
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:43 PM

We'll have to take it up in executive session, but you might want make sure your will is up to date, just to be sure... ;)

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:45 PM

So do I become a member of the committee, or do I get whacked. :wacko:

Ray,

C'mon - you're from "Joysey" and you can't work that one out for yourself?? ;) :D
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Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:56 PM

Ray,

I always considered you whacked, or is that wacko?

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:02 PM

So do I become a member of the committee, or do I get whacked. :wacko:

The "books" aren't open right now. We will have a "sit down" about the matter. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:03 PM

Should I be looking over my shoulder, too! :laugh2:

Ray, I've got your back, my wife still has family in Sicily! :big_boss:

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:08 PM

Greg explained to me that several persons were actually using this forum to respond to questions, so I guess it is pretty useless to have a single signature and we can make an exception because of this. Greg will come up with the best solution, which IMO should be simply that the responder sign his own response individually for each message. Would this be OK with everyone?

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Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:28 PM

Probably OK, but it would be nice to know who posted the response.

Maybe they could add their name at the end of the post.
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