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#1251 Samiam

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 07:22 PM

I still have all my Puppies. Just can't part with them. Would be cool to find a home for them.


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Posted 15 May 2015 - 07:40 PM

That home Samiam is call EBAY .

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 09:57 PM

Being the Retro Hawk motor seems to be THE motor of choice nowadays, and is legal in all classes, how about throwing the Puppy Dog a bone and allowing it to be legal in the Stock car class? Better brakes for one and give us another avenue to use them and mess around perhaps.

 

I brought this up a while back ... it was shot down..... in flames.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 05:20 AM

Hallo from far away Germany :) !

 

i am wondering in the Can Am class (wish we have such a race class in germany!) everybody uses the Ti-22 body.   OK it's the aerodynamical best but how about to delete the allowed attached spoiler only for this body-type?

 

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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:43 AM

Then there would be another body with the spoiler that will takes its place. Throughout slot car racing history there has always been one body that is favored. No different now.
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Posted 22 May 2016 - 06:13 PM

As it is now very clear that the Puppy Dog is no longer viable within the IRRA®, let's all take a lesson from the sad history of that motor.  If the oxymoron that is "security tape" had met with the scorn it deserved years ago we wouldn't have come to this.
 
(It would have been something else.  :dash2:   :dash2: )


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Posted 11 October 2016 - 08:55 PM

Would it be legal to use glue instead of solder to build a chassis?

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Posted 12 October 2016 - 02:15 PM

Sure, as long you are using it to attach one legal material to another.

 

If you decide to, it will be interesting to see your application.

 

The only thing I can think off where it might have some benefit, is some sort of laminated pan(s), with the thinking it might add some dampening.


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 09:31 PM

Would it be legal to use glue instead of solder to build a chassis?


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Posted 12 October 2016 - 11:18 PM

A long time ago I built a car using small blocks of neoprene rubber as hinges for the pans that were glued on with super glue and surprisingly strong. I didn't pursue it because it seemed to be clearly illegal in Retro but the car worked great!
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:57 PM

Would a dimpled rear spoiler be considered legal?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 10:00 PM

No. The rule says flat.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:10 PM

Wouldn't it be flat with dimples, opposed to a curved spoiler with dimples? Or is the intention flat on both sides?
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:28 AM

Flat, flat, flat.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:36 AM

So flat is your final answer? :)
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:07 AM

Does a damaged spoiler that becomes dog-eared in a crash then make the car illegal?
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:23 AM

Yes.

And the race director should have the racer flatten it back out.

PS: My personal opinion is that the scenario you described is highly unlikely.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:24 AM

Dimples are legal in Penn-Ohio. Cheek and chin, no arse or spoiler dimples.  

Also if my dog chews my spoiler while I am doing my homework at a race, it leaves dimples in the spoiler. Would I be allowed to use it? Just wondering all the what If possibilities we can cover with this one.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:33 AM

LOL.
 
Amazing. The rules guy has his say but y'all keep trying to find some quirky way to get him to say "Oh, OK, that's sounds cool... we'll do it." Do y'all really expect Joe to backtrack and say dimples are OK in IRRA® Retro races? If your dog chews your spoiler, make a new one... simple. You want to make dimples legal locally? No problemo; no one, including Joe, will try to stop you. Just don't keep asking Joe the same question from 50 different angles to see if he'll suddenly be overcome by a sense of wanting to make you happy at IRRA® races... ain't gonna happen.


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:47 AM

All you guys with "creative" spoilers, please bring them to an IRRA® race and see what happens, don't say you weren't warned.
 
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:00 AM

OK, got me there. I've seen creative spoilers that were crash damaged.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:27 AM

All you guys with "creative" spoilers, please bring them to an IRRA® race and see what happens, don't say you weren't warned.


That was part of my question. Yes, Ive seen plenty of spoilers tweaked in wrecks. And have seen them adjusted to be less than flat afterward. NBD, just a question.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 11:42 AM

They really get creased in wrecks?

I've made well over 1,000 prebent spoilers, and I know the effort it takes to crease them.

I don't see how that can be replicated in a wreck.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:10 PM

Well, if they are bent illegally by the racer, mid race, the car has to be fixed.

Just like if it was bent illegally, before tech.

Seems pretty simple.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 12:14 PM

Careful, you guys are going to get Ron and his henchmen going on Facebook again. :laugh2:
 
It's been kinda nice seeing the New USRA BoD getting most of their attention and giving the IRRA® BoD a bit of a break this week!


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:14 PM

In 11 years of retro racing, I've never seen a spoiler get creased or bent in a wreck either.


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:40 PM

Just shows slot racers will argue about anything!!   :)


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 01:58 PM

Careful, you guys are going to get Ron and his henchmen going on FB again. :laugh2:
 
It's been kinda nice seeing the New USRA BOD getting most of their attention and giving the IRRA BOD a bit of a break this week!


Ron and the Ronettes. Or men in tights on FB.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:04 PM

Sano 9 bigger can-Am.jpg

The above, taken in October, 2015.

20180215_130617-1.jpg

28 months, and probably at least a dozen races later.
 
20180215_130602-1.jpg

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:24 PM

Quick, put that up for sale on Facebook.
 
Lightly-used winning Retro car... $150.00 No creases on spoiler!  :D
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:41 PM

Just shows slot racers will argue about anything!!   :)

 

No, we won't!!!

LOL.


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 02:42 PM

KVP,

 

Maybe CD7's cars regularly get launched onto a pit table, and get stuck in an R-Geo bending brake. :laugh2:


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

attachicon.gifSano 9 bigger can-Am.jpg
The above, taken in October, 2015.

attachicon.gif20180215_130617-1.jpg
28 months, and probably at least a dozen races later.
 
attachicon.gif20180215_130602-1.jpg

 

Is that a braid inspection window in the front of that body?


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

Those eight-time G7 world record holders are always pushing the envelope aren't they, Matt? :D


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

That's an intake on the real car.

 

I left it clear like the wind screen.


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Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:09 PM

You cannot fool me, you are not Boogie! That's from *** packing lappers on the flat track. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 09:23 PM

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