IRRA® rules comments & discussion
#1
Posted 19 November 2007 - 09:37 AM
Thank you.
IRRA® Board of Directors: Jay Guard, Dom Luongo, Mike McMasters, Joe Neumeister, Mike Swiss
#2
Posted 19 November 2007 - 12:52 PM
Why is the maximum chassis width 3.125 while the maximum body width is 3.25?
Drilled hub rear tires are not allowed. I understand the intent of this is probably to eliminate the more exensive, higher performance tires. However, there are tires that have holes or slots primarily for realism, e.g. Pro-Track. Are these also disallowed?
Is narrowing of rear tires allowed?
Will there be a disparity in performance between the 4002B and the other motors?
Gluing the track by individual racers is prohibited. What about glue on the tires?
Lane selection for each main is by random draw. With no qualifying, does this also apply to how racers are placed in each main?
Will there be an incentive to move from the GT Flexi class to the scratchbuilt classes? If so, what?
What is the procedure for submitting bodies (or other items) for consideration as approved parts?
Steve Walker
"It's hard to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious..."
#3
Posted 19 November 2007 - 01:16 PM
And why are you allow Flexi front ends like the East Coast series? Are you just using the tongue portion or can you the whole front end including the wing tips?
And finally, isn't this just another spin-off of D3, although I do like the body list. As much as I hate to admit it, the original D3 rules are the ones we should all follow. Period.
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#4
Posted 19 November 2007 - 01:45 PM
(Copied from The Rules)...And why are you allowing Flexi front ends like the East Coast series? Are you just using the tongue portion or can you use the whole front end including the wing tips?
"Chassis Materials: Brass: sheet, rod, and tube; steel: wire, pin tubing, and commercial guide tongues are allowed. Steel tongues cut from center sections of Flexi chassis, such as Parma Flexi 2 or 3, JK Cheetahs, etc., may be used until January 1, 2009, but cannot be cut off any farther back than 3/8" (9.53mm) behind the front axle and are limited to a maximum 1" (25.4mm) width. No other materials are allowed. Chassis parts, such as pans, brackets, guide tongues, etc., that are made using EDM, laser, or water-cutting techniques are allowed only if they are individual commercially-available components or components of chassis kits (i.e. these techniques maynot be used in the private manufacture of one-off components). Materials such as printed circuit boards are not legal. A three-sided motor bracket must be used. The motor bracket must support the motor and extend to touch the rear axle tube. The axle tube does not need to travel through the motor bracket. The motor must be screwed to the motor bracket and it can also be soldered in. Floating pin tubes inside another tube are allowed."
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#5
Posted 19 November 2007 - 04:09 PM
If I were paranoid I'd even think Larry & I were being selected out for special attention:
Or maybe it's just the Department of Redundancy that felt this sort of repetition was necessary:Materials such as printed circuit boards are not legal.
Perhaps the Guidelines, er...Rules don't need to be so specific.Brass: sheet, rod, and tube; steel: wire, pin tubing, and commercial guide tongues are allowed.
No other materials are allowed.
Most of us do understand the meaning of "no".
Jim Honeycutt
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#6
Posted 19 November 2007 - 04:13 PM
Ray Carlisi
#7
Posted 19 November 2007 - 09:08 PM
Can a rectangular brass tube be used for pin tubes instead of a square tube provided the movement of the pin tubes is in the same direction, or in place of, the pan movement provided the movement is either up and down or front to back?
Do the rear tires have to be covered by the body or can they be revealed provided the axle tube is not showing?
A motor is only as fast as the chassis it's in.
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#8
Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:03 AM
We're versatile, Ray. You hum it and we'll play it.Don't the Brits use the metric system?
Inches, feet, miles?
Take a guess why it's called the Imperial system (over here at least)?
Regards,
#9
Posted 20 November 2007 - 07:42 AM
Ray is a jokester for sure. I know he saw that all the measurements included mm.Don't the Brits use the metric system?
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
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#10
Posted 20 November 2007 - 12:20 PM
When a 4002 or 4002B motor is sent to be refurbished, what services will be performed? Will endbell blue printing, as long as the seal is left intact, be allowed by the motor owner?
For the Flexi division, will the Cheetah 11 and new ProSlot FX frame be allowed? There seems to be discussion as to whether these frames are "true" Flexis without the plate under the motor.
Thank you.
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#11
Posted 20 November 2007 - 01:06 PM
Because of this process, there may be a delay in receiving responses to questions asked here. While "same day service" is the goal, there may be cases where responses will take a day or two to be posted.
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#12
Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:07 PM
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Mike Kravitz
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#13
Posted 20 November 2007 - 03:08 PM
Philippe de Lespinay
#14
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:03 PM
Incidentally who fell asleep at the IRRA control panel last night if you know what I mean.
Ray Carlisi
#15
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:22 PM
#16
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:33 PM
Ray Carlisi
#17
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:37 PM
Hope you enjoyed your reading, and recognized that the folks involved in the IRRA are working together as a team.
Incidently, the IRRA Retro Racing ID is being used by multiple people, Noose and I being among the group. The posts here are being made on behalf on an entity, the IRRA, and do not represent the views of any one person, but rather the answers agreed-upon by the IRRA Board as a group.
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
#18
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:41 PM
Ray Carlisi
#19
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:43 PM
Gregory Wells
Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap
#20
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:45 PM
Ray,So do I become a member of the committee, or do I get whacked.
C'mon - you're from "Joysey" and you can't work that one out for yourself??
#21
Posted 20 November 2007 - 04:56 PM
I always considered you whacked, or is that wacko?
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#22
Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:02 PM
The "books" aren't open right now. We will have a "sit down" about the matter.So do I become a member of the committee, or do I get whacked.
#23 kkjva
Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:03 PM
Ray, I've got your back, my wife still has family in Sicily!
Be Good,
kkjva
#24
Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:08 PM
Philippe de Lespinay
#25
Posted 20 November 2007 - 05:28 PM
Maybe they could add their name at the end of the post.
Steve King