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#26 Howie Ursaner

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 11:01 PM

I like it. This should be popular
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

Like the class. Will it be added to the Thomasville races?

Would people like to have a '60s serdan class added to the line-up.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:11 AM

Oh Butch, I'll paint you one of these new bodies.


This would be an O/S bodied car?

Curious, as to why none of those are on the list?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:28 AM

O/S 490 and OS 491 are both listed.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:50 AM

Oops, thanks for the clarification, Bill. I missed that. :-)

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 06:17 AM

IRRA® already has an anglewinder class that runs once or twice a year; it never has really caught on.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:39 AM

Inline Retro Racing Association. :)


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:40 AM

As far as the guys who thought we should of made this an anglewinder class, when ever I see an anglewinder race run,I see low entries and wildly different lap totals,due to attrition, I'm pretty sure, mostly due to blown spurs.

IMO, this class, with just s slightly faster motor, a more bolted body, and more reliable 48P inline gears, will result in closer racing.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

I think it'll be a fun class, hopefully ORS adds it.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 01:22 PM

Sounds a fun class, not only for the building side but also the racing :good:

Certainly leaves it wide open for some new design ideas :D wonder what the new TonyP Can-Am Plus chassis will look like !

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 01:08 AM

As I read the rules, the slick-7 keyed construction kit IS legal. I already made mine into a center hinge....just need the Parma body... Maybe a flat track race at the SANO?

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 08:34 AM

Rule 3D seems in conflict with the photo in 2F, diaplanes? Interesting class. Now we just need a Trans-Am class to replace or supplement the coupe class.
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 09:02 AM

Steve,

It is not a diaplane in the sense that it only extends 1/8" from the body with no horizontal component. More of a bumper/reinforcement. 

 

After reading and re-reading the chassis rules many times I have a few designs in mind. Unlimited use of ground down wire,no minimum weight,no motor bracket,and more hinges then a 1200 room hotel. This is going to be interesting if it ever gets off the ground.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

First up on the body list is a True Scale Abarth. Looks interesting but I cant find it listed at TS or PCH. Any information on it would be appreciated.


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Posted 13 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

First check with the Parma website says that the "930+" series of bodies are 1/32 scale. Mirage is 1157B and 917-30 is 1159B. No listing for the M-20...new?

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Posted 13 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

Looks like the Ti 22 should be 1143B and the Ferrari 1142B on Parma website
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Posted 13 July 2014 - 03:43 PM

I will double check the numbers with Steve Koepp

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 12:04 AM

It seems to me that the diameter of the crown gear will greatly constrain how small the rears can be particularly in view of the .047 clearance rule, so that the rears will not be that much smaller than the .790 tires used in F1.

 

 

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 12:14 AM

IIRC, with .047 and a 26T, you can run .738" dia. tires.
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 12:54 AM

Mike you are right I got my math wrong!

 

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 07:20 AM

Mike, Is that with building a chassis with different jig wheels or ones se use now?
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Posted 14 July 2014 - 07:59 AM

Interesting concept/Interesting responses.

 

"I have no complaints, only curiosity.  Why did the class stay with inlines?"

 

"I agree..should have been anglewinders."

 

There were references to potential "blown gears" in anglewinders which is now missing from this string.  Say what?  These chassis are harder to build?  I think not.

 

I like the concept of the single motor with no formula to allow other motors.  Frankly I think the IRRA has been more than a little late in embracing this motor.  Not having this as an anglewinder  class is a missed opportunity in my mind. The mindset seems to be like a reimagining of a slot racing reality if it was a world of only inlines....an evolution....of flintlock rifles. 

 

The fact of the matter is that the technology of slot racing did evolve.  It evolved to anglewinders.  A design of chassis that literally decades of racers (ones we should try to be attracting now) was all that they knew.  A couple of years ago a former national champion ran with us in an enduro race and when we dropped him off on the way home he said to give him a call when they were running anglewinders. 'Nuff said.

 

Myself I'll run the rules that the track owner embraces.  If is this class then so be it, but to me at the end of the day this was a lost opportunity to set this sanctioning body up  with a class of retro slot cars that is set off off from others.


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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:18 AM

 

Steve,
It is not a diaplane in the sense that it only extends 1/8" from the body with no horizontal component. More of a bumper/reinforcement. 
 
After reading and re-reading the chassis rules many times I have a few designs in mind. Unlimited use of ground down wire,no minimum weight,no motor bracket,and more hinges then a 1200 room hotel. This is going to be interesting if it ever gets off the ground.

 
I have to agree with Steve, it sure looks like a diaplane to me.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:44 AM

Mike, Is that with building a chassis with different jig wheels or ones se use now?

It would have to use different sized kid wheels.

You could use 2 26T gears.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:53 AM

Id opt for a slightly bigger rear tire so be able to use an assortment of gears.  


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