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[Gator Bob]

Looking for (or creating) an open frame a motor list for Vintage Drag Racing.

 

If a list exists please provide link.

If you know of any not on the list it please add it.

 

Thanks

 

 Examples=  DC196, RP77, MK-70, AT406.....

[SlotStox#53]

Bob, would the RAM 426 ( I think that's the #) and others like it with the rear axle integral with the motor be considered "open frame" ?

[Gator Bob]

Yup, Those are good for this list.

 

RAM 426

DC - 706

Strombecker - Devastator

[Gator Bob]

Tyco

[Champion 507]

Ram 222

Strombecker Destroyer, Scuttler, Avenger

Kemtron Mustang, Bronco

 

plus these:

http://www.theindepe...tman Motors.htm

[Gator Bob]

Pittman

DC-704

DC-705

DC-706

 

Revell/Pittman  

RP77, 66

 

Tradeship

MK-70

 

Atlas

AT406, 208, 206

 

RAM

426, 222

 

Strombecker

Devastator, Scuttler, Avenger

 

Tyco

901

[Ramcatlarry]

If you consider the Kemtron padlocks, you must include the Pittman (DC 65,  DC 85) and Ram (850 & 857) and their varients.  The  common elements of this list is Alnico single magnet and no can.  Around Chicago, about all we used were the big Rams and Pittmansand some Kemtrons on three batteries (36+ volts)

 

The first ring magnets included the Globe and Wilson.  A dual magnet motor of the time is the Bonner.  Its arm was wound to what could be considered a three volt wind and barely could handle 13 volts.  I used some in 1/32 scale along with Triang/Scalextric and Pittman DC 60 and 62 before the proper motors came out.

[CoastalAngler1]

Vintage motors:
Link to excellent vintage motor site:http://www.theindepe...of Contents.htm

Vintage open frame, single magnet motors:
Pittman Bilet DC-63M tested 13,600 RPM/12v
Pittman DC-195A 20,000 RPM/12v; tested 22,751 RPM/12v
45 gcm/12v, 2.3W/12v
Pittman DC-196A 21,000 RPM/12v
45 gcm/12v, 2.4W/12v
Pittman DC-196B 28,000 RPM/12v, tested 26,066-28,031 RPM/12v
Revell Pittman RP-66A tested 21,680 RPM/12v
Revell Pittman RP-77 tested 19,125 RPM/12v
Pittman DC-70 16,500 RPM/12v
85 gcm/12v, 3.5W/12v
Pittman DC-70-6v tested 24,675 RPM/12v
Pittman DC-65A (laminated frame) 17,000 RPM/12v
75 gcm/12v, 3.2W/12v
Pittman DC-65A-6v (laminated frame) tested 32,500 RPM/12v
Pittman DC-85A (laminated frame) 11,500 RPM/12v
259 gcm/12v, 7.4W/12v
Pittman DC-85A-6v (laminated frame) tested 25,354 RPM/12v

[Hworth08]

Posted in Car/Model probably in 1966 is the use of a circular magnet from I'm believing a Dodge windshield washer motor. IIRC this setup was only legal in the fuel dragster class.

[Gator Bob]

Last call for the approved motor list that will be legal for the 'Rods and Rails' proxy.

 

Any missing?

 

Laminated

• Giz Winder w/BB
• Kemtron 503- X
• Kemtron 503-8
• Kemtron Bronco SR22
• Kemtron Mustang SR21
• Mini DV18D-8
• Mini DV18E
• Pittman DC65
• Pittman DC65-6
• Pittman DC-84
• Pittman DC-85
• Ram 857-6
• Ram DC850
• Russkitt  41
• Strombecker Destroyer 8473

In-line less axle bracket.

• AristoCraft R6
• K&S MR 1 Super
• Mini Auto DH15
• Mini DH13A
• Mini DH13M
• Mini DH18
• Pittman DC63M
• Pittman DC70
• Revell RP66
• Revell RP77
• Strombecker Hustler
• Tradeship MX70
• Tradeship MX77
• Varney KM1

In-line w/ axle bracket

• Aristocraft 18
• Atlas AT206
• Atlas AT208
• Atlas AT306
• Atlas AT406
• AW Stingray
• Mini DH13M ?
• MRRC Super 3P
• Pittman 196A
• Pittman 196B
• Ram DC711
• Ram DC711 6volt
• Strombecker Avenger 8387
• Strombecker Scorcher 7  8389
• Strombecker Scuttler 8379
• Strombecker Super Charger 8528
• Strombecker Super Scuttler
• Tradeship MicroMotor MN30
• Tyco 901
• Tyco 902
• VIP Club

Sidewinder

• K&B Challanger 1502
• K&B Super Challanger 1504
• Mila Miglia Capolupo 501
• Pittman DC 704, 705, 706
• Ram DC 222
• Ram DC XL500
• Ram DC283
• Ram DC426A
• Strombecker Devastator 8474
• Tyco 952

[don.siegel]

Bob,

 

For some reason I just saw this list today; added a few in the padlock thread, since I saw that first. 

 

Just thought of another in the laminated category: the Fury (will have to add details later, but it's a Kemtron lookalike)

 

You could just say any period open-frame or non-can motor... 

 

For what it's worth, the Mila Migila Capalupo is just a Tyco 952 with a wolf decal - but in fact I don't know if they used a different wind - they claimed 35k, which was more than the 952 specs if I remember right... 

 

Just offhand, there are all the British motors, K's, MRRC, etc., but probably only the split 6-pole (as in their 4WD cars), or the big 1/24 monster would be competitive. Both Pittman and Ram had variants: 704 and 704A, 426 and 426A. 

 

Don 

[Ramcatlarry]

On MY list is the rare (even in the 1960's) Lindsey motor- one piece alnico magnet, no laminations.  L-190, L1010, L1020; L-1030.

Only differences was in the bearing holder lengths for the various train uses.

[Gator Bob]

Thanks for all the contributions ... guys!