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#1 Big Booty

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:38 PM

Im interested in knowing where the name originated from?  The brushes certainly do not contain any gold.  In fact they contain absolutely no metal content what so ever.  Just carbon and binder (glue) to keep them together.  The BFII in comparison do contain a significant amount of copper, probably about double the amount in stock Parma brushes.

 

 


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 11:54 PM

The name was probably thought up by Dan Debella. or possibly one of his employee's.

It's what we call in America, hyperbole.


Did you really expect them to contain gold? Lol

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 12:22 AM

Ive been making my own brushes using unobtainium.....  So no one believes they contain "gold", they just chose a name that makes it sound like its the bee's knees of brush gear?


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 04:10 AM

I remember Rocket brushes in early 70's were advertized as containing some ridiculous amount of copper - 60%/70% ??
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Posted 12 November 2014 - 06:32 AM

What determines the surface area of a brush? Seems like a larger diameter com should require a larger brush but I know some people swear a ProSlot 4002 motor doesn't get fast until the motor has been rebuilt three times and the com has been turned down three times.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:57 AM

Did you really expect them to contain gold? Lol

I would think silver would work.

 

I think they named them gold dust so you at least think you are getting your money's worth at $3.50 a pair.  :laugh2:


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:08 AM

I think they named them gold dust so you at least think you are getting your money's worth at $3.50 a pair.  :laugh2:

 

And you want a new pair of shoes when you buy BF II's. :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 12:24 PM

Could it be named after Dusty Rhodes' son Dustin "Goldust" Rhodes?

 


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 01:52 PM

Look at the commutator end of a new brush. It looks like it was sprinkled with gold dust.  So it sorta makes sense. 

 

So how did Big Foot get it's name?



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Posted 12 November 2014 - 01:52 PM

  I'm confused   :scratch_one-s_head:  :sarcastic_hand:

Im interested in knowing where the name originated from?

OK good.. me too.

 

The brushes certainly do not contain any gold.  

 

OK .. but how are you sure of that?

 

 

In fact they contain absolutely no metal content what so ever.  Just carbon and binder (glue) to keep them together.  

 

  I'm not sure exactly what is in there but if I take that at face value the next statement makes no sense.

 

 

The BFII in comparison do contain a significant amount of copper, probably about double the amount in stock Parma brushes.

 

 

So if there is " absolutely no metal content what so ever"  what is the copper doing in there? :to_take_umbrage:

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 02:22 PM

So how did Big Foot get it's name?


George Mura was the country's leading authority on Sasquatch/Big Foot.
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Posted 12 November 2014 - 03:33 PM

  I'm confused   :scratch_one-s_head:  :sarcastic_hand:

  :bomb: fuse is lit :clapping:

 

G'day Bob,

 

Fuse has been extinguished, so no probs.

 

Goldust = no metal content.  Conductive material is carbon granules held together with binder

BFII = copper +  carbon held together with binder.  copper content about twice that in a parma brush

Parma = copper + carbon held together with binder.  copper content about half that in a BFII

 

 

How do I know?  I pulled a favour with a mate and had them analysed.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 03:58 PM

So which is the best?


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 05:01 PM

It's the Unatainium ones don't cha' no! LOL!


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 05:54 PM

 

G'day Bob,

 

Fuse has been extinguished, so no probs.

 

Goldust = no metal content.  Conductive material is carbon granules held together with binder

BFII = copper +  carbon held together with binder.  copper content about twice that in a parma brush

Parma = copper + carbon held together with binder.  copper content about half that in a BFII

 

 

How do I know?  I pulled a favour with a mate and had them analysed.

You have my curiosity now.  what "conductive" material could we be referring to??


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 06:27 PM

Gold, fer sure!!!!!!


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 06:30 PM

And what gives Proslot's Gold Dust brushes a different color than Proslot's Production brushes? That's very noticeable when you put them side by side.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 06:34 PM

You have my curiosity now.  what "conductive" material could we be referring to??

 

Now you have me confused??

 

The conductive material in goldust brushes is carbon.  They contain no metal, or if they do contain metal it was below the detection limit of the instrument.

 

Both Parma and BFII contain some copper, but mostly its carbon.

 

Does that help??  Otherwise i dont know what you mean.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 06:38 PM

So which is the best?

Short answer is I dont know as Ive never done back to back tests between the Goldust and BFII brushes.  Need to get around to doing that.

 

The BFII's are better than the stock Parma brushes but that may have more to do with the fact that the Parma brushes are undersized for the brush hoods and tend to giggle about.  Ive yet to pull out a stock Parma set that have worn evenly.


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 07:32 PM

tend to giggle about

They must autoclave them, but use laughing gas instead of steam. Lol

I'm surprised that the Gold Dust don't have any copper in them.

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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:44 PM

There is a bigfoot slot race coming up in Florida, dna test to enter.  :sarcastic_hand:


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 08:50 PM

Errr sorry about that #1.  I meant jiggle, not giggle.  I was surprised as well so I asked my mate to repeat the measurement and this time to crush up the brush just in case the metallic content was "buried" in the brush rather than there just being no metal content on the surface.  Same result.   Just carbon and oxygen.  The oxygen is not unusual as you get oxygen present in most things due to the environment.

 

Are the goldust brushes manufactured in the USA or just repackaged from China?  Does anyone know?


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Posted 12 November 2014 - 09:06 PM

I don't think any of the 36D brushes are made in the US. I would say Gold Dusts come from China.

 

What metals, other than copper, is your friend checking for in brushes? If you really want to analyze a good motor brush, have your friend look at the contents of the old Mabuchi 36D's.


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 12:05 AM

It was a XPS wide scan analysis so would have picked up most elements (if they were present).  Once you identify any peaks you can then do a narrow scan centered abut the peak of interest to get more precise elemental percentages.

 

Dont have an old 36D so hard to do an analysis on it.


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 12:43 AM

Mabuchi Pull-outs are way inferior to Super Big Foot II's, anyway.

As soon as they come out in about 85 or 86,Pull-outs became obsolete, at least in G7.

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