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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:05 PM

Provided as a clarification in response to the request for one.
 
For Can-Am, GTC, Formula 1, Anglewinder, and Can-Am Plus:
 
All bodies must contain a painted (at least two colors), fully-molded, three-dimensional interior comprising a driver (helmet, shoulders, and arms), a steering wheel, and cockpit representation. An interior may be mounted in any manner as long as there is compliance with the rule of not being able to see any part of the frame from above. Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction.
 
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All bodies must contain a painted (at least two colors), fully-molded, three-dimensional interior comprising a driver (helmet, shoulders, and arms), a steering wheel, and cockpit representation. The interior must be attached to the body with the driver facing in the proper direction and in compliance with not being able to see any part of the frame.

(posted for the IRRA® BoD by Joe Neumeister)


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:30 PM

Don't like the rule, you have just opened a can of worms. What you are saying is that people can mount their driver on the floor. Now you can have people using a flashlight looking after the race saying I can see some frame. This will cause more problems, possibly a DQ.

 

The rule should have been changed to the driver must be mounted so he or she can see the road, or the driver must be mounted a high as possible.

 

This is my opinion. I just think the car should look somewhat realistic. To me it does not look realistic if you can't see the driver.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:36 PM

Pat,

 

Sit with me at the tech table. You will then see it makes diddly difference because these are inlines. If you want realistic then scream about two color interiors. 


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:46 PM

Racers, I really don't think it matters. 98% won't change how they mount interiors and those that do will have stupid looking cars... plus mounting the interior low which is silly and motor wires and such AND completely covering the chassis is silly. Knock yourselves out..

 

LMAO.

 

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:11 PM

Wouldn't you want to tape it to the body and close off that opening. Wouldn't that make more downforce?


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:20 PM

I'm mounting my interiors with carbon fiber thread suspended from isolater posts on the pans. That will get me in the A Main for sure! :crazy:


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:36 PM

If you want to see what probably caused the inquiry I think you should take a look at the recent Retro East HVR race report where certain of the podium cars had the interiors mounted to the frame rather than the body.

 

Cheers.

 

PS: That kind of mounting precludes getting a good look at the podium cars' chassis.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:45 PM

"Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction."

 

Has this EVER been an issue? Really? :wacko2:

 

If we're going to copy everything the podium guys do, I got to get me a Mr Pickles T-shirt and some Tootsie Pops.


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:45 PM

I am training a spider to weave a web to suspend the interior from the body just over the chassis

 

Top that!


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:58 PM


If we're going to copy everything the podium guys do, I got to get me a Mr Pickles T-shirt and some Tootsie Pops.

 

:D ... and have your wife mark the location of the car between heats

 

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:59 PM

 

Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction.
(posted for the IRRA® BoD by Joe Neumeister)

 

 

And the right way up. :huh:

 

Could get the CoG lower if his head is down.

 

What about scale? Can you use vertically challenged drivers?

 

So many things to consider...


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:06 PM

I am training a spider to weave a web to suspend the interior from the body just over the chassis

 
This spider?
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:17 PM

The ones I paint are not very good drivers, turns out.
 
Sometimes I'll double-side tape their butt to the motor... just for spite.
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:10 PM

This spider?

 
Or these colorful little guys? LOL.
 
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:18 PM

Just to piss everybody off I have developed a mag lev system for my drivers. I love science.

 

So there. LOL.

 

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:36 PM

Is that the mag levitation device with the gyroscope for stability?

:huh:


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:47 PM

You would be surprised at what I see at tech.

Bill: it started at the Fall Brawl not HVR.

And yes, someone did mount an interior in a Stock Car backwards.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:01 PM

What is the advantage of mounting an interior in backwards?

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:07 PM

Bud:

Obviously it's so the driver can see who is trying to pass him.  :D
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:07 PM

None.

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Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:25 PM

:D ... and have your wife mark the location of the car between heats
 
Cheers


no girls at the track unless there racing or marshaling. Lol. Honestly I hate interiors. I'd rather just leave the clear lexan and race like that.
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:05 PM

Just to piss everybody off I have developed a mag lev system for my drivers. I love science.

 

So there. LOL.

 

GVP

 

Good thing the belts hold him in place. :ambivalent:

 

Some levitating drivers complain...  "this car has no seat of the pants feel"  :angry:   

 

"I feel like I'm floating around and staying in the same place." :lol:


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:18 PM

What is the advantage of mounting an interior in backwards?


To keep the sun from blinding the driver!
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:04 PM

I just mounted my driver upside down. He is facing forward, has helmet, arms, shoulders and steering wheel. Can't see my chassi but my driver can.
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Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:27 PM

Unfortunately it doesn't say the driver's face just has to be facing forward, it's referring to the whole driver being mounted in the proper direction,which would include the top of his head being "up".

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