Provided as a clarification in response to the request for one.
For Can-Am, GTC, Formula 1, Anglewinder, and Can-Am Plus:
All bodies must contain a painted (at least two colors), fully-molded, three-dimensional interior comprising a driver (helmet, shoulders, and arms), a steering wheel, and cockpit representation. An interior may be mounted in any manner as long as there is compliance with the rule of not being able to see any part of the frame from above. Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction.
For Stock Car:
All bodies must contain a painted (at least two colors), fully-molded, three-dimensional interior comprising a driver (helmet, shoulders, and arms), a steering wheel, and cockpit representation. The interior must be attached to the body with the driver facing in the proper direction and in compliance with not being able to see any part of the frame.
(posted for the IRRA® BoD by Joe Neumeister)
Interior rule clarification
#1
Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:05 PM
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#2
Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:30 PM
Don't like the rule, you have just opened a can of worms. What you are saying is that people can mount their driver on the floor. Now you can have people using a flashlight looking after the race saying I can see some frame. This will cause more problems, possibly a DQ.
The rule should have been changed to the driver must be mounted so he or she can see the road, or the driver must be mounted a high as possible.
This is my opinion. I just think the car should look somewhat realistic. To me it does not look realistic if you can't see the driver.
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#3
Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:36 PM
Pat,
Sit with me at the tech table. You will then see it makes diddly difference because these are inlines. If you want realistic then scream about two color interiors.
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#4
Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:46 PM
Racers, I really don't think it matters. 98% won't change how they mount interiors and those that do will have stupid looking cars... plus mounting the interior low which is silly and motor wires and such AND completely covering the chassis is silly. Knock yourselves out..
LMAO.
jj
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#5
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:11 PM
Wouldn't you want to tape it to the body and close off that opening. Wouldn't that make more downforce?
#6
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:20 PM
I'm mounting my interiors with carbon fiber thread suspended from isolater posts on the pans. That will get me in the A Main for sure!
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#7
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:36 PM
If you want to see what probably caused the inquiry I think you should take a look at the recent Retro East HVR race report where certain of the podium cars had the interiors mounted to the frame rather than the body.
Cheers.
PS: That kind of mounting precludes getting a good look at the podium cars' chassis.
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#8
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:45 PM
"Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction."
Has this EVER been an issue? Really?
If we're going to copy everything the podium guys do, I got to get me a Mr Pickles T-shirt and some Tootsie Pops.
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"Fool me once, same on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
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#9
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:45 PM
I am training a spider to weave a web to suspend the interior from the body just over the chassis
Top that!
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#10
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:58 PM
If we're going to copy everything the podium guys do, I got to get me a Mr Pickles T-shirt and some Tootsie Pops.
... and have your wife mark the location of the car between heats
Cheers
Bill Botjer
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#11
Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:59 PM
Interiors are to be mounted with the driver facing in the proper direction.
(posted for the IRRA® BoD by Joe Neumeister)
And the right way up.
Could get the CoG lower if his head is down.
What about scale? Can you use vertically challenged drivers?
So many things to consider...
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Steve King
#12
Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:06 PM
I am training a spider to weave a web to suspend the interior from the body just over the chassis
This spider?
"If you have integrity, nothing else matters, and if you do not have integrity, nothing else matters."
Robert Mueller, special counsel (2013)
"... because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook."
Richard M .Nixon, Nov 17, 1973
"Fool me once, same on... shame on you. Fool me... you can't get fooled again."
George W. Bush
#13
Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:17 PM
Sometimes I'll double-side tape their butt to the motor... just for spite.
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#15
Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:18 PM
Just to piss everybody off I have developed a mag lev system for my drivers. I love science.
So there. LOL.
GVP
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#16
Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:36 PM
Is that the mag levitation device with the gyroscope for stability?
Steve King
#17
Posted 01 December 2014 - 07:47 PM
Bill: it started at the Fall Brawl not HVR.
And yes, someone did mount an interior in a Stock Car backwards.
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"
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#18
Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:01 PM
#19
Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:07 PM
Obviously it's so the driver can see who is trying to pass him.
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#20
Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:07 PM
Joe "Noose" Neumeister
Sometimes known as a serial despoiler of the clear purity of virgin Lexan bodies. Lexan is my canvas!
Noose Custom Painting - Since 1967
Chairman - IRRA® Body Committee - Roving IRRA® Tech Dude - "EVIL BUCKS Painter"
"Team Evil Bucks" Racer - 2016 Caribbean Retro Overall Champion
The only thing bad about Retro is admitting that you remember doing it originally.
#21
Posted 01 December 2014 - 08:25 PM
... and have your wife mark the location of the car between heats
Cheers
no girls at the track unless there racing or marshaling. Lol. Honestly I hate interiors. I'd rather just leave the clear lexan and race like that.
#22
Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:05 PM
Just to piss everybody off I have developed a mag lev system for my drivers. I love science.
So there. LOL.
GVP
Good thing the belts hold him in place.
Some levitating drivers complain... "this car has no seat of the pants feel"
"I feel like I'm floating around and staying in the same place."
Bob Israelite
#23
Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:18 PM
What is the advantage of mounting an interior in backwards?
To keep the sun from blinding the driver!
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#24
Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:04 PM
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#25
Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:27 PM
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