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#1 Pete L.

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 05:55 PM

Folks,
 
The intent was to get down to the shop today and spend some time catching up with the stalled project list, I swear! Well, as they say, "the best laid plans... I came across a Russkit Porsche Carrera project that had been languishing for some time.
 
At first I just wanted to see what extra parts were in the project package. What I do is gather parts for a project and put them in a ziplock bag that is hung off of nails driven into the beams that support the floor overhead. I realized that I had accumulated a good bit of bits and pieces that were needed for the resto.
 
Two pair of original Russkit tires and a set of repro tires that were perfect for the Porsche.

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 06:01 PM

We started to disassemble the car and see what was the shape of the vehicle. I was pleasantly surprised by the fairly clean and unscathed condition of the chassis. I cleaned up the chassis with some warm water and used paper towels and Q-tips to get the years of cag off of the car.
 
I have a brand-new Russkit motor that will be going into the car and a new guide shoe may also make it onto the project. And yes, that's another Russkit project waiting in the wings...

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Posted 24 January 2015 - 07:34 PM

My first commercial slot car in 1967 was a Russkit Porsche Carrera kit. It's been stored at my parent's former Maine house ever since I left home in 1969. I think all that's left of it is the chassis, wheels and tires, and the green Teflon-coated axles. 


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Posted 24 January 2015 - 09:41 PM

Very nice, Pete. Luckily you have that integral spur/wheel combo which is usually long gone. Also, that chassis is nice and clean. Very hard to find on that hasn't been hacked on one way or another. 

 

I think (not sure) that this car takes a "23" motor, with black and white wires, not the "22" shown.

 

Again, not sure if they came with either motor. In any event, it's not that important. Can't tell with the body on.   :)


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Posted 24 January 2015 - 09:54 PM

Joe,

 

Thanks for the heads-up on the motor deal. The one you speak of is the one I pulled out of the car. I guess I'll put the original motor back in the car, maybe I can freshen it up while I'm at it.

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:58 AM

The Russkit 23 label has a red background, the 22's is black. That's how I keep them straight. The 23 arm is a little hotter than a 22, but I don't recall the winds. Also, I think the 23 has the heatsink brush tubes, while the 22 doesn't.

 

There are lots of Russkit 22 motors available out there, but few 23s, so I's rebuild the 23 I had, if possible. A comm cut and new brushes and springs might be all it needs. My Russkit Porsche came with a 23 motor, but I don't know if they were sold with both.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 11:53 AM

Hi Pete,

 

Nice car! At first I was thinking you could make a hopped up version with some aftermarket parts. But it looks like you've got most of the bits to make a restored original.

 

The Opti Guide is "Korrect" for the car, not the packaged Small Slant Guide which would be great on a 1966 Rod & Custom Pro Car. Also "Korrect" is the red label Russkit 23 motor as mentioned.

 

Reproduction decals are also available.

 

Have fun and thanks for sharing your project!

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 12:28 PM

Pete, I should have some vintage black wire here if you need it. Let me know and I'll send some out. Yes, the "23" does have a hotter wind, heatsinks, and a red label. 

 

As far as the axles go, I always wanted to try the old Testors green in the bottle to try and duplicate that Teflon green on a standard axle. Not sure it would match exactly but I think it's close. I know it's not original but it may look OK. 

 

Luckily, you have both original axles. 


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 01:10 PM

Joe,

 

Thanks for the offer of the black wire but it actually is still on the motor. With the work area being in the cellar and the computer being upstairs, my memory has to serve me as a reference source.. .sometimes it's "offline".

 

I'll try to get some work done this afternoon and post some more pics soon.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 01:30 PM

Rick,

 

Thanks for your assistance, the Otiguide will go back on the car as well as the original motor. I have an aftermarket body that I could use (Lotus 30), I even have the accessories for the body, exhaust, rollbar and injectors.

 

What I'm wondering is what type of glue I should use to adhere the styrene plastic parts to the newer Lexan body?

 

 

Thanks,


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 01:46 PM

Hi Pete,
 

What I'm wondering is what type of glue I should use to adhere the styrene plastic parts to the newer Lexan body ?

 
Are you sure it's Lexan and not PETG? I've used ZAP type glues and silicone adhesives on PETG and butyrate bodies.
 
Maybe others can chime in on glue for Lexan.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

Rick,
 
Great, after a preliminary search I can't find  the body... I had it in my hand yesterday along with the accessory kit?  :dash2: I'll look again later. I'm pretty sure it's a ---- -----  ( correction  ELECTRIC DREAMS body, and yes it's PETG !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 03:20 PM

True Scale had several repops of Russkit bodies. They were offered in .020" PETG. Hopefully Victor reopens his website they will still be offered.  :unknw:


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 03:39 PM

As far as the axles go, I always wanted to try the old Testors green in the bottle to try and duplicate that Teflon green on a standard axle. Not sure it would match exactly but I think it's close. I know it's not original but it may look OK. 

One alternative might be a bottle of green liquid insulation  it the electrical department of a home center or hardware store. In one Home Depot, I saw 6-8 different colors. I needed a bottle of white at the time, but have forgotten what I used it for.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

Bill, that would probably be too thick. 

 

Instead of thinking about it I just went ahead and did it. The original Russkit axle is on the left, freshly painted aluminum axle right. You can see the paint at the bottom. Maybe as old as I am LOL. Looks pretty close. I think with a coat of clear flat you would be good. Remember that Russkit coating has been on there for 50 years. I guess you could juggle the color with a little black if you want. Anyway, here it is for your perusal. 

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 06:42 PM

Joe, I have some of those dime bottles of Testors paint too. :laugh2: In the photo, your color match looks pretty close. As I recall, the green teflon has a flat finish. Fine sandpaper or some other type of abrasive could be used to cut the shine of the paint. I also thought I read somewhere another color of teflon was also used, but that may have been on some reproduction axles.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:08 PM

Joe,

 

 Excellent match for the green !!!


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:13 PM

Fellas,

 

Here's a shot of the completed chassis with the original motor (Russkit 23) and the original guide shoe (Opti-Guide) reinstalled along with a pair of repro rear tires. Thanks to Joe and Rick for help sorting out the right parts for the car! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

 

Also pics of the body placed on the chassis. I have some repro decals floating around somewhere that I'd like to apply tomorrow if I can locate them.

 

The driver and interior leave a lot to be desired, I'll have to look around to see if I've got some other Russkit stuff.

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 08:17 PM

Fellas,

 

I noticed what seems to be a clear coating of sorts on the body, I'm not sure if it can be seen in the photos. It's most apparent on the rear pan of the body, I suppose it the body protecting coating that Russkit developed to protect the decals on slot car bodies.

 

The coating seems to have yellowed...

 

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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:33 PM

Pete, it looks great.  :victory:

 

I would not touch the body except for a three-part polish with Novus and maybe paint the wiper arm and blade which will help mask the yellowing. It is almost 50 years old and is supposed to look it. After a polish add the decals and your set.

 

I would also wash the tires including tread with Dawn and a toothbrush and then Armor-All all four if you are just going to display it.

 

Just my opinion of course, your car, your rules.  :laugh2:


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:54 PM

Looking nice, Pete!  :good:


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:54 PM

Joe,

 

I'm planning on running it, cleaning, and decals as well as your suggestion for the wiper blade will hopefully get done in a day or so.

 

I  just don't like the interior... that's still up in the air.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:56 PM

Rick,

 

Thank you!


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:58 PM

Peter,

 

It doesn't show in the photos but is the yellowing all over the body? I believe those early Russkit bodies were made of butyrate, which tends to yellow with age and in the presence of UV rays. I think that's probably what happened to your body.

 

I don't recall Russkit or anyone else  applying anything to a pre-painted body to protect future user-applied decals. I do think they sold bottles of a protecting liquid to be user-applied over whatever decals the user chose to apply.


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Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:59 PM

What don't you like about the interior, Pete? Is it the lack of detail painting from the factory or the interior insert itself?


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