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#1 Tim Wilkins

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:23 PM

I found this track slip in a Vintage slot car box that was purchased recently at a swap meet. Made it all the way out to California.

 

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:34 PM

You found my cars!
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:51 PM

I was there a few times, but other guys on the blog like Noose and Tony P actually raced there.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 12:53 PM

Of course I do ... That was my 'home track'.

 

"Team Cresskill"

 

Funny thing is, my first 'pulled body' car was a GarVic Coronado it the exact same colors.

 

I would be interested in the time slip or box.

 

I repurchased a mint car, some how I still have the original box from the 60's. I kept my decal stash in that box but I cut a slot in the box top as my first 'tech block' and painted something flat black on it 50 years ago. 

 

Great find Tim!

Brings a tear to my eye to think about those days.

 

The Homans Rd. location was where they moved to and changed thier business model to include sporting goods after being in the original supermarket size 'slot only' store in the mall on Vervalen St.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 01:27 PM

Hi Bob,
 
I tried to PM you but couldn't get through. Sounds like some good old memories. I know the feeling of trying to hunt down that first slot car purchase. I've already listed this on eBay as a packaged deal as I think it adds a little more value.    
 
Thanks.
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

We raced there once in a GP7 race on their King track. Power was brutal, just about everyone blew up.

 

Only good part was I bought a Rubik's Cube in the hobby shop part.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 01:58 PM

Tony, I remember you telling me about that race and the 'cube' too. LOL.

 

At both locations they used the original 'time seller' power supplies.

 

There were 'big races' on the King at the Vervalen St... I watched the older 'big kids'... yes, the pros and was amazed, it was like the old lap counter was shaking like a pinball machine.

 

I have yet to find anyone on Slotblog that remembers being at the original location.

 

At the Holmans location IIRC they only kept the King (upstairs) and the purple offset figure eight in the lower level as moved from the Vervalen St store.

 

The Aristo Hillclimb with steering wheels, the orange, black, and the red 220' Indy were gone. 

 

Like the Red 'Indy' I don't thing the Purple 8 was an American.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 01:59 PM

I've already listed this on eBay as a packaged deal as I think it adds a little more value.

 
Thanks, Tim.
 
I'll go look for it.
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 03:37 PM

I raced there...
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 04:23 PM

Cool, Fred! Nice run, too.

The only thing is I've never seen the track in those pictures.
No 4 laners...
 
It was not in the Vervalen location or the Holmans location during the periods I was there, it may have been in the Holmans store.
I moved from Cresskill in '68 and re-found the new location in about '74.

By '74ish the only track left was the fig-8 in the lower level. Where the King was... it was all racks of soccer, football, hockey gear.
 
My return was sidelinded by something that smelled much better than 'Tigers Milk'.

Slots? Yeah...
For get a bout it!


 


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 04:31 PM

That track in the photo is not the one we raced on.  It was a 220 FT Engleman if I remember correctly.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 04:57 PM

That track in the photo is not the one we raced on.  It was a 220 FT Engleman if I remember correctly.

 

Oh .. then it WAS at the original location ... now that IS cool!!!

 

The pro race I'm speaking of remembering was on the King, drivers stand was backed up to the foot traffic control iron railing on the right as you walked in.

 

It was 'Red'... Fred, was the layout one of these.

I can't remember ... crossovers on the 'big track'.

 

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:10 PM

Neither of those are Engleman.

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:10 PM

Top is a Mr. Raceways I believe.
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:18 PM

That's it I think.
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:27 PM

Top is a Mr. Raceways I believe.

 
 Yup - 300 foot Indy. The bank at the end of the long front straight was so steep that my slow/heavy Cox car would just fall off and land at the bottom. LOL.

That's it I think.


 Yup, that's what I remember.
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:32 PM

I should have made the Main but that creep Gross showed up! 


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:51 PM

300 foot? Are you sure?
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 05:59 PM

I thought it was a 220 till this ad was found and posted.

They must have bought the red and purple tracks from Mr. Raceways. The layout and split 4+4 drivers panel on the purple figure 8 did not look like any American tracks.
 
The King and the others at Closter were all American tracks.
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 06:13 PM

The pic above is the the one of the tracks that Closter had. This is not the Closter location, but it is this style of track.
 
The race that you guys had with the railing behind you was at the original location in the strip mall. FWIW, Rudy's Pizza is still there. Eventually the owners bought a piece of land on the next street and moved the tracks in. As the hobby declined, tracks were removed and hobby stuff was moved in. The King track was bought by Rick Elting, we are pretty sure. He doesn't remember where he got it, but this is the track that Emott bought.
 
The big track has been described as either 300 or 330 feet long. It was scheduled to be removed and put into storage but on the day the storage facility was not ready for them. No rain was forcast, but unfortunately it did rain and that was the end of that.
 
For Tony: Do you remember Ed Benadella? If you do, I had lunch with him and Gelman over the summer.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 06:42 PM

How cool, Bill... you know that story. Been looking on here since 2011 for those who remember the original location.
 
Where did you live back then?
 
Might have a vision ... It's a bit 'foggy' on Ed Benadella...

Did he race with a blue service station type work shirt that had a patch with his name on it? Big dude... A main guy, too?
Or was he one of the two brothers that owned the place?
 
Shame about that red track.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 06:49 PM

I grew up in Dumont.

 

Ed was not part of the ownership group, he was one of our better racers. What he wore? We are talking about more than 40 years ago. No chance on that.


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Posted 05 March 2015 - 07:33 PM

Bill, did you know a Pete Taylor, can't remember if he was from Dumont or Cresskill... up by the monument, he would be like 65 years old. now but was unfortunately killed on his motorcycle.
 
The race day I'm thinking of ...
Had who I think was Big Jim Greenaway flying down the chute, he might have won it. For some reason that day I was pulling for 'Ed' he was making serious laps up on green. 
The King was hard to get a lane on any Saturday... I went over to the big red track with my Gar-Vic and Cox stuff that day.
 
That vision was etched, the rest has been burned.
I was like nine or ten, you guys were mid-teens and up... big diff.
 
Don't know who sanctioned that race on the King but to read the race report would be a treat.
 
Here is a back story, now... who suggested that I shouldn't keep my cars in a metal box? LOL.
 
Team Cresskill R&C entry
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 07:38 PM

A few thoughts...  

I remember going to Closter Raceway and hanging with Bill... I remember the multiple floors, but don't remember the tracks. Bill Taylor, Ed Bernadella, and Eric Hahn were the "Jersey" crew. At Teaneck Raceway, Ed and Eric were the fast guys. I'm pretty sure, that Bill had a TVR, at the time. Fleetwood Raceway and Roosevelt Raceway had the 300 foot Indy tracks. We use to run our 26D Comets, at that time. Lots of top end, light on the brakes. Our 16D rewinds were just starting out, but blowing up a lot.  
 
Ed Bernadella story...  Many years ago, my wife and I tried a Spanish restaurant in Northern Jersey. I kept staring at this guy, trying to figure out, where I had seen him before. Apparently, he was doing the same. After awhile, he came over to the table and re-introduced himself. We spent some time talking with Ed and his wife. Seems they were regulars at the restaurant. Ed and his wife live in Norwood NJ, not too far from where we are.
 
You bump into slot car guys, at the strangest places. You can't get away from them...
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:10 PM

Sorry, did not know Pete, but I am very familiar with the camp Merritt Memorial. My Dad was on the board of directors for many years. (Purple Heart and Bronze Star at Rapido River)
 
I don't really remember the old style cars you are talking about. I was just getting in late '67 just as scratchbuilds were just starting, as I remember.
 
Al: Unfortunatly Ed's wife passed away a few years ago. He had a friend who used to go to that same restaurant who also passed, so now he goes there with his friend's widow just as a platonic relationship.
 
TVR: What a stretch, but yes.
 
Eric lives in Austalia now.
 
Where are you? My mom lives in Norwood now.
 
Here is anouther real stretch, I talked to Jim Damerrell late last year.
 
How are things with you? I used to see Marty from time to time at Buena Park but finances prevent me from racing right now. I am hoping to do the $100 class at the Western States. Let him know, hope he can show.
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:11 PM

I don't remember the Roosevelt "big" track looking like that in the picture, I think it was more "Engleman-y".
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 10:01 PM

I always wanted to race on a Mr. Raceways Indy 300! And a AMR Purple Mile, but life intervened...! I know there is at least one Purple Mile in operation, but...
 
Does a Indy 300 still exist anywhere???
 
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Posted 05 March 2015 - 11:43 PM

Max, the only one I know of is now a memory.
 
Bill, I didn't know until I just read this.
 
Nightmare at Rapido River
http://www.redbubble...at-rapido-river
http://www.military....t?file=PRrapido
 
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:17 AM

Hi Bill,

Of course I remember Ed.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:36 AM

Does a Indy 300 still exist anywhere???

 
I don't have your answer. Mr. Raceways tracks were manufactured in Cambridge, MA, during the late '60s. The first commercial track I ever ran on was a Mr. Raceways LeMans. The biggest Mr. Raceways track I was ever on was located at Woodfords Corner in Portland, ME. I doubt it was a 300, more like 225-240'. That was over 45 years ago, of course it's long-gone now.

The Purple Mile located at the Framingham, MA, Modelville Hobby location. MVH was my home raceway from 1970-75. I haven't yet been to their current Ashland location, though I lived in that neighborhood from 1969-71.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 08:58 AM

Center Bowl in Hillside, NJ, and Linden Raceways had 300s.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 09:33 AM

At Center Bowl you had to first qualify on the smaller tracks in order to be allowed access to the room with the 300 footer. PVA and Phil Rubin did a lot of racing there.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 12:40 PM

Along the same lines, Zepplin Raceways would not allow you on their King unless you had a Gr20 Wing car or better. They would then tech your car and you would have to clean and re-glue your lane ahead of time...
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:58 PM

When they only had the Hillclimb and you were the only person running on the track, they would always put the rental car on the lane next to you.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:18 PM

Oh so true. And you still had to clean and glue the lane. LOL. Like we used to do every Sunday when we went up to practice.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:39 PM

When I got back into slot cars in 1994 I went up to Zepplin with a couple of Gp27 cars my nephew had given me. I was the only one on the track, went down the straight around the bank and stopped dead in the dryed glue in the deadman! Huh?
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:05 PM

Yup.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 06:49 PM

When we raced Retro there we had to clean the track and braid so cars would have contact. Glue the track, run the race, and pay by the hour even for the time the lap counter blew up or six feet of braid would come off in the bank. And/or the power supply would go into thermal meltdown. Fun times.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:00 PM

We've come a long way baby. LOL. That was eight years ago.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:11 PM

It's strange how Zeppelin went from a racer friendly raceway, to a racer unfriendly raceway. 

When Zeppelin first opened, it was like walking into a slot racing candy store. Lou and staff always had the latest/greatest slot stuff that was out there. You never had to wait for a part. They always had massive quantities of inventory. 

We had a great "core" group of racers, that slowly got better and better. Believe me, these boys SPENT the money. We used to race, almost every Friday night, averaging about 25 guys. Everyone came to the big sanctioned races. The track was set up so that you could go fast, get a good rhythm, but still have to drive the track. It was not a punchbowl. During those years, I never heard of anyone saying anything bad about Zeppelin. 

Then, the store downsized and that was that. That was a great raceway.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:34 PM

I was racing at Radical Raceway in Lodi when Zep first opened.

Like Al said it was an amazing candy store slot shop that rivaled grand openings of the '60s. I would drive up to get the good stuff not available in Lodi.

I burned up a great running Parma Cup/Gr10 motor in three laps on that King; didn't know there was 'that much' glue down.
 
Lou had a 12 hour impound flexi on the hillclimb and it was basicly four or five N. Jersey tracks as teams and independent teams brought it to 8... The two in Rockaway, Radical, Zep, and I think Hot Slotz, too. Lot of fun and once you learn that 'red' Hillcimb it was a fast, smooth and fun.

I never went to Zeps other locations, only the original.
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 09:18 PM

I loved the red Hillclimb at the original Zeps.
 
They had a great turnout at the '92 USRA Nats. Something like 70+ cars for G27 as well as big turn-outs for Boxstock and I15.
 
We didn't know how good we had it.
 
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Posted 07 March 2015 - 07:18 AM

It seemed to me once they moved out of the big building they did not care any more.

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 08:43 AM

The Zeppelin 500 in 1994 was the first GP27 race I ran in. 42 entries qualifying on 18.5 volts! 

That's where I ran into Al, Mike Katz, and Bob Emmot, all of whom I had not seen in 25 years...
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Posted 07 March 2015 - 09:37 AM

That's the era when people made the voltage higher to claim the title of fastest track. Crazy.

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Posted 08 March 2015 - 03:38 PM

More power, more glue, more swoop, more ... fun?


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Posted 08 March 2015 - 04:00 PM

1990 Euro Cup in Kuopio, Finland: Fellas did claim bad voltage. Next time in 1992 we made it 17V. Guess what they claimed then...

(I think it was dropped after the G27 race...)


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