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#1 Mr. GoFast

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 11:00 PM

This year's winners of the USRA Div 1 Nats in Pro Group 7, OMO, 27 Lite, and Amateur Box 12 will ALL win a round trip plan ticket to fly in to Nashville, TN, to race,
 

Information on discounted hotel rates will be available soon.
 

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(Note: The date of this race has been changed. See below.)


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#2 Ricky Vegas

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 03:24 PM

Hi Tracy ~

 

We have a lot of friends and family in Nashville and my oldest daughter is going to Belmont U. so we go from the Chicago burbs to Nashville quite a bit. 

 

Two years ago I met Chicagoland Raceway owner Mike Swiss, sold all my home set stuff, and dove into commercial slot racing as a "two-race nights a week regular" at Mike's. Best hobby on the planet as everyone on Slotblog well knows!

 

Anyway; I am still pretty green. I race hardbodies, flexi-cars and have a couple Retro races under my belt. I'd love to race with everyone at the Hillbilly Nats! Best bet for me would be to probably enter the Amateur Box 12 category.

 

Can you tell me what I need to compete; then, I'll work with Mike on my builds and practice at Chicagoland Raceway to get ready for your event.

 

Thanks!

 

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Posted 06 April 2015 - 05:48 PM

Ricky,

 

You have a secret weapon IMO with having Mike at your disposal (if he still talks wing car verbage).


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Posted 06 April 2015 - 06:52 PM

LOL.

I think I am too far removed to be of any value.

We had a wing race on Saturday and apparently the latest fad is to run way too hard of a tire and fall off all the time. Maybe it's to save wear and tear on the motor.
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Posted 06 April 2015 - 09:12 PM

I'm working on what classes and what rules. Will post in the next few days, thanks.

Ricky V, come by and see us if you come down before then.
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Posted 07 April 2015 - 11:20 AM

Good luck with your new place and track.

 

However it seems that your King will be seen as too "flat" for the "refined" (speed crazed) taste of high-end wing car racers. The USRA Div 1 Nats has only been contested on "punch bowl" Kings for quite a few years.

 

Maybe you should consider some non-wing classes for your first big race.

 

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 12:42 PM

That track will be plenty fast.

The pic HERE really doesn't do it justice.

Maybe the angle of the pic combined with the wider than normal trackbed.
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Posted 07 April 2015 - 03:10 PM

This track is a blast to race on. The donut is a foot larger in diameter, plus the larger lane spacing (I believe 1/4" more) makes the straight over the bridge quite a bit longer, then the lead-on should be punched with a wing car.

And notice each lane has it's own power supply and caps (13.8 or 14.3 volts) Definitely fast...

A real thrill with Retro cars, can't wait for a big Retro race. You guys will love this place!!!



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Posted 07 April 2015 - 03:34 PM

In case anyone missed it, Tracy's new place opens officially on this Saturday, April 11, at 10 AM Central time.

I'd probably drive up there if I wasn't headed to Charlotte Motor Speedway for the swap meet and AACA Southeastern National meet.

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 04:37 PM

I look forward to seeing the classes and rules for the Hillbilly Nats, Tracy! 

And when in Nashville I'll stop in and depending on what's on tap at the track, would love to get to race with everyone!
 
I second John's motion for a large Retro race in 2015, too.  :)
 
Mike sure summed up the wing racing last Saturday at his shop well. Our hardbody race club was getting ready for our weekly event while the wing racers finished up their final heats. I never saw slot cars fly so high and so far as they de-slotted on the King and went airborne!
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Posted 07 April 2015 - 09:36 PM

Deadman 25 degs, finger 22 degs, lead-on 25 degs, donut 18 degs. Not flat at all. It's the angle of the pics. The track is very low to the ground and looks like it is flat but it is not. I will try and take some pics and show you what I'm talking about.

Also the track has 4.750" lane spacing.


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Posted 07 April 2015 - 11:53 PM

Is the track elliptically or "compass" routed?

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 07:16 AM

Elliptically, Mike.
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:51 AM

Mike,

 

Could you or someone explain the difference in the two?


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 12:43 PM

On a compass-routed track, all eight lanes are routed off of the same pivot point.

 

On an elliptically-routed track, usually the first lane is routed, using the outer edge of the track as a reference. Each subsequent lane is routed using the previous lane as the guide, i.e. white is routed off red, green is routed off of white, etc

Because of the two spaced pins in the router plate, each subsequent lane will turn in a bit sooner (a softer transition).


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 10:39 PM

Best description I've heard...

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Posted 11 April 2015 - 12:51 PM

Mike, do you have a picture or diagram of the router plate? Thanks.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:57 PM

We're racing Box 12s at Tracy's and they're running around 2.8s on average. Track record is 2.73 (I believe) set last Saturday during the race. That was on 13.6v with fair conditions (there had been several races earlier in the day) so there was some rubber already laid down.

 

Maybe someone can chime in with other track lap times for Box 12 cars.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 07:30 PM

TQ was a 2.3 this year at the Nats in Dallas.

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 08:16 PM

Yeah, I know. Then I had trouble in the semi and didn't make the main. I would have fired the crew chief however...
 
That time was set on 16V. Also, Am ran spec tires on .500" hubs. We had three choices: Jet 36s, TR Beuf Blend, and Koford WX+
 
Qualifying motor was a race motor with a 40* arm; however, it is a screamer, pulls high amps, and falls off a lot in race conditions.  I raced on the Beuf blends, but I qualified on the WX+ cut to .760". I had seven race motors and three motors that I thought might work in qualifying. Two were duds, but that one motor really went.

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:19 PM

To Mr Swiss:
 
I call BS On that building statement! I bet that if anyone puts the right equipment in front of you, you will build a bullet of a car. And I would be willing to try it!!!
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 08:00 PM

Hey Pablo,
 
I know Dave , and he is no newbie... He builds an bad azz wing car his ownself!!! He just doesn't post much on the blog...
He built me a Cobalt 12 That still rocks!!
 
Hey, Dave...

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 10:17 AM

I should have known better, Paul... Just standing up for a fellow Illinois boy...

 

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 03:01 PM

With a new Gerding G 21 coming this is really gonna' be something.  I may even start wing racing myself, after all I am old now. LOL

 

They are just one gear, off or wide open, right? LOL 



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Posted 19 August 2015 - 05:45 PM

I agree with J.C.....

This could really be a barn burner. I guess all we can do is wait to see if G21 shows up before or after the race date.

Either way, I'm ready to put on my racin' overalls and head on up to White House and lay down some rubber


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Posted 23 August 2015 - 04:18 PM

Looks like there's going to be a postponement of the "Hillbilly Nats" with the new G21 arriving sometime in November. I'm sure Mr. GoFast will post something to bring us all up to speed.


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Posted 01 September 2015 - 05:33 PM

Here's an event poster from a post to Facebook today:

 

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Posted 02 September 2015 - 09:07 PM

Excuse me if I missed it, but what is the purpose of the new track? Didn't Tracy just build his own King?

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Posted 03 September 2015 - 08:26 AM

Matt.

 

It was just not as good as he expected. He wants the best and fastest and he's going to do it.

Can't wait..


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 09:29 AM

Thanks, John, and that is a bonus for you as well. 


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 10:52 PM

What are "World Rules" ?

 

that's a great question.....

Tracy says that he's working on getting that posted for all to read.

let's just hope that it's soon

 


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Posted 03 September 2015 - 10:55 PM

What's wrong with USRA rules?
 
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Posted 05 September 2015 - 10:09 PM

Half Fast,

USRA has a submitted parts list, Worlds rules don't.

Also some people are not happy with USRA rules.


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Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:12 AM

Excuse me if I missed it, but what is the purpose of the new track? Didn't Tracy just build his own King?


Yes, and he has admitted it was "bucket list" item personally to build a King track.

IMO Tracy tried to "push" the envelope in a couple of ways and it seems that a couple of his approaches weren't the improvements he had hoped they would be.

Thus he has ordered a new King from Gary Gerding, the acknowledged master of King track construction at this time. I believe Tracy desires to have one of the world's best and fastest King tracks and that's what he seemingly has tasked Gerding to supply.


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Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:13 AM

Also some people are not happy with USRA rules.


A masterful understantment, James. LOL...
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Posted 14 September 2015 - 02:09 PM

Rick,
 
I might make the trip also.

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Posted 15 January 2016 - 07:51 AM

  Results?


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 09:35 AM

I'll have the Group F results from Thursday posted later today, Bill. After driving up from Atlanta yesterday, I was just too bushed to stay until it was over last night.


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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:37 AM

It was good to see you at the track last night, Greg. Tracy was looking for you to judge concours before the start of the Group F race, but someone said that you had already mailed out. Tonight's another story though.


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