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#1 dc-65x

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 04:46 PM

I've never been much of a "hardbody" builder and I've never scratchbuilt a slot car with a resin car body kit. That's about to change as I've taken the plunge on this:

 

c4r_2b.jpg

 

It's a 1953 Cunningham C4R from (link below):

 

Fisher Model & Pattern

 

Here's what it looks like when an expert modeler builds it... what it will look like when I attempt it, well, we'll see.  :shok: :laugh2:

 

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This kit is a bit pricey to use as a body but hey, it's almost Father's Day and I couldn't help myself. I've wanted this thing for a long time now. Hmmm... I hope I feel the same way once I start trying to build the thing! Anywho, it's ordered from Fisher.

 

I have no idea what to use as a motor or anything else for that matter. Anyone have any ideas?


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:25 PM

Very cool! You are a research guy so i am sure you know and understand the process, but just in case always ask what they recommend to neutralize the mold release on the body. For decades it was Wesley's whitewall cleaner, but the formula is different in today's age.

 

I have 3-4 Kemtron/KTMs if needed, but I am not sure on what would be a "proper" powerplant for this.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:45 PM

You are a research guy so i am sure you know and understand the process...

 
Uh... Oh... Ah... I think I'm already in trouble and the kit isn't even here yet! :dash2: :laugh2:

 

Remove the release agent, right. Thank you. Maybe the kit's instructions will recommend what to use... if the kit has instructions. :wacko2:


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 05:55 PM

I just found and printed out this:

 

How to Build a Resin Kit

 

I hope it's appropriate. Time to start some "book learn'n"...


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:00 PM

Hope the C4R doesn't end up looking like a rail carriage.

 

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:09 PM

Considering the original was Powered by Chrysler with a 330" Firepower-plant... a Hemi wound motor could be in order. :clapping:


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:37 PM

Hope the C4R doesn't end up looking like a rail carriage.

 
Here's hoping the techniques will apply to a car, too. :unknw: If anyone finds a good how-to article, please let me know.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:49 PM

Looking forward to this one.

 

My very good friend Ed owns Island Collectibles here on Long Island and deals with high-end resin kits including Fisher. He has someone who does build-ups for him that are incredible.

 

If you have any questions at all I'd be happy to ask him for you.

 

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:50 PM

Super-cool car to choose.

Good luck with the build.

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 06:52 PM

Nice model kit.  :good:

The motor would probably depend on what type of chassis you're wanting to build/able to fit underneath, Rick.

If brass rod and tube maybe a dc65x or something similar? Or if leaning to more flat brass plate type thing you could use a tasty can motor? Would a hot 36D squeeze in the body?! :laugh2:



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Posted 29 April 2015 - 07:12 PM

Thanks for the offer of a lifeline, Joe.

 

Good luck on this one would be most welcome, Mike; thanks.

 

I'm pretty sure I want to use some type of tube "space frame" for the chassis, Paul. I have fun building them. You're right, I really need the body to see what motors will fit. It looks pretty skinny so an inline might offer more motor options.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 07:38 PM

Ummm it's a 1953... I know I missed that race, but... I'm seeing a green wire motor and I don't know why... ^_^  :sarcastic_hand:

 

Atlas AT-206 factory BB motor with neo.  

Stock Tyco in-line... 901 or 902... I forget.  :)

 

Or... how about a red wire 36D arm in a black can with red endbell   :crazy:  :laugh2:

 

This is 'fun'.  :clapping:Stick around, pull up a chair cause y'all ya'll know it's going to be a great show.

 

Onward, Captain.   :good:


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:06 PM

One thought that keeps popping up in my head is to treat this build as if it was a fiberglass Auto Hobbies or Braverman body from back in the day. :)


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:49 PM

How about a Kemtron/KTM inline motor, they look skinny &]and low enough profile :good:

Resin is definitely interesting stuff to mess around with, doesn't take much to sand or Dremel too much away!



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Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:52 PM

Rick,

 

In deference to your display name... put a 65X in it!!! Either inline or sidewinder would do nicely. JMO.

 

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Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:59 PM

Yup, the Kemtron 503 and Pittman 65 (inlines) are definitely on my radar.

 

I can't wait to get the body here. I want to see how much vintage horsepower I can cram into it as in Gator Bob's reminder that, hey, that thing had a Hemi!!!!


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 09:04 PM

Whatever you do, don't overbuild the motor. I would go simple.

 

Plate chassis, Russkit 23 or the like with Russkit wheels and inserts for maximum detail.
Model car front tires and Ortmann rears with a Cox guide.
Save your efforts for the paint and details.

What are you going to do for the driver?


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 09:45 PM

Save your efforts for the paint and details.

 
Aye-yai-yai... ain't that the truth! :laugh2:
 

What are you going to do for the driver?

 
Maybe an early '60s Strombecker or Ulrich Mini Man with an open cockpit exposing the running gear as was done in the day.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 09:50 PM

Consider one of these DRIVERS before you start anything. The details nearly paint themselves.
 

I've been a big fan for a while.


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Posted 30 April 2015 - 12:22 AM

:good: Very interesting, I'll watch this new project.

Because I also have a C4R to do in my projects.

It was made by PSK to be mounted on a slot car.

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Posted 30 April 2015 - 04:23 AM

You could always ask Dieter Jens, I bet he has a chassis and a motor for it.
 
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Posted 30 April 2015 - 07:35 AM

Soak that body in a bottle or tub of rubbing alcohol. Keep that alcohol and re-use it for every car right before you paint. Keep those greasy fingers off the car, too. Use the alcohol to clean your hands.
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Posted 30 April 2015 - 09:30 AM

I have an interesting chassis idea for you, Rick: you know those Kemtron SR-20 "pancake" motors? How about one of those in a sidewinder frame? Magnesium ideally (I'm always thinking of a custom mag frame Ben Millspaugh made for an early sports car in a Car Model article...), but I know you like brass and it's easier to work with... 
 
In any case good luck; I've picked up about 10 resin kits over the years and have yet to build up a single one! (Fortunately I have friends who have assembled a few for me in trades...). That's not meant to discourage you by the way, I know you're a guy who finishes his projects! 
 
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Posted 30 April 2015 - 11:42 AM

Consider one of these DRIVERS before you start anything. The details nearly paint themselves.

 
Nice looking drivers, Jairus, thanks for the link. I wish there were more in 1/24 scale. The F004 "'50s Driver Figure" would have been perfect. The F001 '60s driver is the closest thing I see...
 

:good: Very interesting, I'll watch this new project.

Because I also have a C4R to do in my projects.

It was made by PSK to be mounted on a slot car.

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Hi Regis. My attempt at detailing this body will be nothing compared to the masterful workmanship in your project cars. I did see the pre-painted Proto Slot Kits on the Electric Dreams sight. I've wanted to give the Fisher brand a try for a while now. They claim the body is a very thin (lightweight) casting. We'll see...
 

You could always ask Dieter Jens, I bet he has a chassis and a motor for it.
 
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You're right, Christian. Dieter was kind enough to PM me.
 

Soak that body in a bottle or tub of rubbing alcohol. Keep that alcohol and re-use it for every car right before you paint. Keep those greasy fingers off the car, too. Use the alcohol to clean your hands.

 
Thanks, Matt. I'm going to be extra careful to clean my hands and keep the body clean.
 

I have an interesting chassis idea for you, Rick: you know those Kemtron SR-20 "pancake" motors? How about one of those in a sidewinder frame? Magnesium ideally (I'm always thinking of a custom mag frame Ben Millspaugh made for an early sports car in a Car Model article...), but I know you like brass and it's easier to work with...

 
A skinny sidewinder is a real possibility. But I am really looking forward to soldering up a brass tube space frame of some sort, sidewinder or inline. I just gotta do some soldering, Don!  :crazy:
 
I'm going to contact Fisher and ask about a delivery date...


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Posted 30 April 2015 - 12:54 PM

Whoa! I've now copied that link for the driver figures! Thanks, Jairus!

 

If I'd seen it a few days earlier, I'd have saved myself some $ (bought some Cox Ford GT40 drivers on eBay).


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