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#1 Pablo

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 03:26 PM

While refurbishing John Clow's Cuc, I remembered just how sweet these cars are.

The Cox Iso Fulcrum design was an idea way ahead of it's time.  45 years later, it still works well.

Wish I still had mine from back in the day.  :)

I caught the sickness and couldn't resist snagging one on eBay.

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Thanks to Philippe, Bob I., Edo, Tom H. Don H, (and others I'll remember later), I knew what to look for.

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Mine Cuc appears to be new, and quite possibly never run. 

The black nylon spacer on the rear axle is too short, but it matters not.

This car is going to be perfected, modified, and run hard.

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I welcome your La Cucaracha speed secrets in "mine Cuc" thread. 

No guarantee I'll take your advice, but I do welcome and appreciate it. :clapping:

Now, where did I put that doggone acorn nut wrench ? :dash2: :crazy:


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 03:45 PM

SWEEEEET CUC Pablo !!!!!!! :victory:

ME Likey .......nice find that look's new....... how much $$$$$$$ ???

 

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 03:45 PM

You sure found a very nice example. :good:


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 03:50 PM

 

I welcome your La Cucaracha speed secrets in "mine Cuc" thread. 

 

Three simple words, my friend;

"Koford guide washers" :laugh2:

 

I wound up with a nice one, somehow.

 

Ray probably bought it for me because I mentioned it was my first 1/24 slot car and had won my first race with it.

 

It has silicones and runs great on my flat track.

 

Almost too good to have fun.

 

As far as acorn nut wrenches, I got one with mine, and regardless, at 12 or 13 years old, I couldn't figure out how to take the front wheels off, without  damaging something.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 03:51 PM

Beautiful looking example Pablo :good: really is complete and unmolested! !

After finding dad's slot car box back when I was a kid, he always mentioned the Cuc with fond memories.

Always been tempted and having seen your renovation of John's it's gotten even more tempting :laugh2:

If I bite the bullet will use everyone's info and great advice here on the blog.

Crack on ..



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Posted 21 May 2015 - 04:50 PM

Thanks everybody :) 

I'm not ready to dig into this car just yet. Meantime, keep those speed tips coming.....

.020 PETG TrueScale La Cucaracha body is currently en-route, and #14 rubber band will arrive soon........


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 04:50 PM

Very nice Paul! :good: :good: :good:
We should all collect the brand we like, price be-damned! (Don't tell us.)
For me it's Dynamic.

 

But Cox is my second followed by Riggen.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 04:55 PM

Jairus, I didn't get a "bargain" price at all. :)

Gary specifically asked, so I sent him a PM.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 05:01 PM

To mention the price would be boasting.  We all have a pretty good idea what that car is worth.

And in my world, paying the fee for something desirable is well worth it, whatever it is.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 05:03 PM

Exactly Jarius, how about a poll vote from a list of 60s RTR manufacturers ?

 

1.2.3.

Champion

Dynamic

Classic

 

And 'price be-damned' the Champion might lead that category.

 

Pablo,

Personally ..... I would leave that mint original car just the way it is and build up a bare frame with modern parts and orange lid as a 'real runner'.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 05:11 PM

I appreciate the idea, Bob, but this car doesn't qualify as "mint".


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 05:16 PM

 

 

As far as acorn nut wrenches, I got one with mine, and regardless, at 12 or 13 years old, I couldn't figure out how to take the front wheels off, without  damaging something.

 

 "Wow ..You too?"  :o  said the frustrated 9 year old.    :on_the_quiet2: Now I don't feel so bad if a 'big kid' can't even do it. :whistle3: Hmmm..that was a short bike ride home.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 05:46 PM

"I couldn't figure out how to take the front wheels off, without damaging something"

 

Sounds like me working on John's Cuc.  I tried every USA and Metric tool I owned, until I remembered I had a vintage Cox wrench sitting on my bench.

But it took an hour to find it :laugh2:

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Does anyone know what exact size those doggone acorn nuts are ? .196 ? 4.96 mm ? 5 mm ?

 


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:51 PM

I appreciate the idea, Bob, but this car doesn't qualify as "mint".

 

Just be aware that your chassis appears to be the "first" version, without the upright body tabs where you screw in the body from the side.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 06:54 PM

Also, the old-school flip phone is a nice touch.


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:06 PM

Want a hot rod? Get a can drive Champion 507 for it. Alternatively, have John Havlicek wind you a hotter than stock arm & then replace the stock magnets with something stronger. In 1967 I first put a French arm & magnets in mine before buying a 507. :)


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:28 PM

That's a good ol' car just to play with.. Set of silicones and run it. There are a bunch of cuc's
out there, they are not some priceless old slot car. There seems to be an inflated price on ebay now, but watch during the summer and there will be good deals.
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Posted 21 May 2015 - 07:44 PM

4 years ago, I bought a Ranelli 1:24 Porsche F1 + some parts for a Cuc car

 

The Ranelli was complete and OK, so the price seemed OK also, but when receiving the parts, I found out that the Cuc was i a very good shape and the only thing missing was a rear axle spacer which I actually had i my spare parts box, so I got two cars for the price of one:

 

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 08:15 PM

Nice save Niels!

 

Here is a hack one I sold on epay. It ran just fine.

 

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:20 AM

Good point, Mike B. no body mount tabs, guess I'll have to get creative to mount the TrueScale body.

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Posted 22 May 2015 - 08:57 AM

Just a common 3/16th inch socket fits the acorn nuts. The axle threads are 2-56 so if something happens to an acorn nut just a 2-56 nut works fine.

 

It is extremely easy to twist the threads off the axles even removing the nuts.

 

Body mounts were easy. We just screwed a piece of quarter inch brass angle with 2-56 self tapping screws, with washers, through the body slots. Drill the angle for 16th tubing.


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:34 AM

Want a hot rod? Get a can drive Champion 507 for it. 

 

Or ... a Big Block ... :D


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 11:57 AM

The 507 fits without butchering the Cuc body. Pablo's chassis is an early version, it doesn't have tabs tor ugly screws that would be required to mount most other bodies. He posted he's got a TrueScale cuc body in the mails. Let's see how he mounts it. :good:


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 12:07 PM

Won't any can drive 16D with a Mabuchi gimbal bushing housing and the proper size endbell bushing housing fit ?


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Posted 22 May 2015 - 12:21 PM

Yup ...


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