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#51 Craig

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 09:00 AM

Are any motor pods legal in BOTH class's?  Anglewinder or sidewinder?  

 

Tim, this is from post #6

 

planning two class: a stock class that uses the stock inline pod and the mod class which can use the sidewinder pod


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 11:38 AM

Better check your motor temps with a 2.2 gear ratio!! Sounds good Mike---I'll get a couple of cars prepared,.   :)   And was just CONFIRMING what I already knew for the ones out there that may have a question about inline/ angle winder!


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:29 PM

I'm curious to see who will make the rounds to the variety of tracks we'll have. It'll be nice to see some who I know from BP Raceway and Big Lou's come on out to race on King Mini Boola!

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Posted 13 June 2015 - 08:58 PM

Did some testing this week at Big Lou's and Buena Park.
Ran a stock class car at Lou's with 4 grams of lead in the nose and the car felt fine.
On the flat track at Buena Park, ran a stock and mod car. Tried different kinds of tires and they all work.
Foam tires were the most forgiving.
Dennis Samson was there for the retro race and also tested some of the 1/32 cars he has.
Will test the spec tire as soon as I get them.
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Posted 16 June 2015 - 02:17 AM

Just got home, and open the mail.
Xpg tires from Paul Gage!
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Posted 16 June 2015 - 04:14 AM

Mounted and trued to 19.5mm
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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:48 PM

Someone in our club asked which cars were eligible, and Stephen Farr-Jones thought this was a pretty accurate list: 

Eligible Slot.it Group C Cars - There are 14 body styles and 80+ liveries from which to choose. The
list below is in body style release order.
Porsche 956C LH
Porsche 962C LH
Sauber C9 Mercedes
Jaguar XJR-6
Jaguar XJR-9
Lancia LC2-83
Porsche 956C KH
Jaguar XJR-12
Mazda 787B
Porsche 962C KH
Toyota 88C
Lancia LC2-85
Porsche 962 IMSA
Nissan R89


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:06 AM

I'm curious to see who will make the rounds to the variety of tracks we'll have. It'll be nice to see some who I know from BP Raceway and Big Lou's come on out to race on King Mini Boola!

Eddie

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Eddie, I plan to make the whole series as long as my medical condition doesn't interfere.  That would be the only thing that may hold me back.

 

Another thing we may consider is:  The folks that plan to race the entire series that live near BPR can get together and car pool for the away races.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 01:41 PM

Mounted and trued to 19.5mm

 

Mike did you use the nail polish clear coat to mount like Paul recommends?


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 01:41 PM

I plan to make the races, but would like to know when they are so I can plan around them.  Is there anyway to make a list of dates and times the races will be held?  This to go along with a heads up just before the race with all the info needed to get there would be a mighty big help.    I think these races will be a lot of fun and look forward to them.  See at them. :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:08 PM

Eddie Shorer will have a race on July 12 (Highland Park, close to Dodger Stadium)

BPR on August 9

Rafael Palau will have a race on September 13 (West L.A., near UCLA)

Big Lou's on October 11 (Culver City, near Fox Hills Mall)

 

and a fifth race in November, yet to be confirm

 

 

races are on the second sundays, and the host tracks will be open at 11am

stock class tech at about 12:30pm

and mod class 30 mins after conclusion of stock racing

 

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:20 PM

 

Mike did you use the nail polish clear coat to mount like Paul recommends?

 

 

yes.

have to be a little quick with the mounting, otherwise the nail polish starts to get lumpy.

the adhesion is very good and the excess nail polish cleans up with polish remover (just "steal" the stuff from your gf or wife, ha, ha  :laugh2: )

 

truing the tire on my hudy leaves a rough finish which can be polish with finer sandpaper after cutting to size.

 

with the stock inline pod, the tire can be pretty small, I got them at 0.720" dia or so.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 06:05 PM

Try fly tying glue/cement, flows better and doesn't leave lumps.

I've got some in my slot box, tag me next time you see me if you want to play with some.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 12:35 PM

Cheers Max, sounds excellent - I'm going to try this. (Not sure where to find fly-tying glue in the middle of L.A. though . . .)


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:14 AM

Mike, there is a fish and tackle joint on Orangethorpe that may have it.

 

The name of the place is: Bob Marriott's Fly Fishing Store


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 11:08 AM

With a name like Bob Marriott's Fly Fishing Store he's got to have it!

Actually I heard about someone's store while I was hunting down glue and that name rings a bell, but I had already planned a trip to Bass Pro and got some there.

There is the type that cures via a UV light, obviously you wouldn't want that type.

 

This can also be used instead of nail polish for front tires on your retro CanAm or F1 if you want a bit firmer tire.

Unlike nail polish that sits on top and clumps up, this stuff will soak in a bit and not clump.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 01:08 PM

Mike please re-post the full finished rules in a new thread as the rules in post #1 are different than in post
#50 so there is no confusion.

Oh and Bob Marriott's Fly Fishing Store has some great small scissors for slot racers... Craig and I bought some neat small ones.

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 01:15 PM

Mike please re-post the full finished rules as the rules in post #1 are different than in post #50 so there is no confusion.

 

Yes please, I could have sworn that for the Mod class it used to read any 21,500 motor and angle winder or side winder pod. Please confirm.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:17 PM

Post 50 is the up to date rules.
Sticking with the stock motor in mod class, as various brands of 21.5k motors have different performance. The stock short can fits only in the sidewinder pod, anglewinder pod fits the long can.
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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:42 PM

Post 50 is the up to date rules.
Sticking with the stock motor in mod class, as various brands of 21.5k motors have different performance. The stock short can fits only in the sidewinder pod, anglewinder pod fits the long can.

Thanks Mike,


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 05:42 PM

I will be at BPR this sat (about 5pm) and sun (at opening till end of RP race) to distribute the spec tires.

 

running on the flat track with spray glue and the spec tires, the grip was inconsistent.

Debbie said: the track can be cleaned before we race


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 06:57 PM

Short can also fits inline pod. The short can that's considered stock is the Slot.it orange endbell. For the mod class why don't standardize on the Flat 6RS ?

On commercial flat tracks I use normal sponge rubber like Wonder Rubber or treated depending on the track conditions. Have better success than any 1/32 tire, and a lot more consistent.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 07:46 PM

Dennis,

All good ideas. As we are just kicking off this series, I want to keep it simple for now.

 

As it grows, other motor options maybe used.

 

I tested sponge tires on the flat track and they work very well, but I want to have one tire for all the races.

Paul's XPG tire works well, inexpensive, easy to true, and decent grip on all the different tracks we will be running on.

On a cleaned track at BPR I believe that the XPG will be fine. I will test it before the scheduled race at BPR.


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 08:21 PM

Sure, Good Luck, glad to see you are doing this. I love to run slot.its on our flat track. What do your cars weigh?

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 09:00 PM

Sure, Good Luck, glad to see you are doing this. I love to run slot.its on our flat track. What do your cars weigh?

For my stock class R89c, I added 2 grams of lead in the nose and total wt is 68 grams.

For my mod class 962, using a lexan interior, I added 3 grams to the nose and it also weighs 68 grams. The sidewinder setup puts most of the weight on the back and adding more lead on the front seems to balance it out better.

I ran it this way at Big Lou's (plastic sectional track) and I could slide the car or not slide the car at will. It was fun driving like that, so don't try passing me on the outside  :D


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Posted 01 July 2015 - 10:56 PM

Race #1 Info for Mike Low’s On Any Sunday Slot it Race

SUNDAY, JULY 12, 2015

Eddie Shorer’s King Mini Boola Raceway, at his home in Montecito Heights (zip code 90031), which is near Highland Park

The track will open at 11AM on the day of the race. Racing will begin around Noon-thirty. 

Please RSVP to Eddie at the following:  ed@shorer.com  so we can get a count of how many will participate, and to get the address, directions, and cell phone contact.

Some things to note:

Drinks and light snacks will be provided. Please bring lunch for yourself if you need it.  

There are limited tables and chairs. If you can bring either, that would be helpful.

There is no charge for the day’s racing. 

The track is outside under a deck, and there is shade, but it could still get a bit warm. Sorry, I don't make the weather.

Professor Motor Controllers are at the track, but you may use your own.

**Come with the mandatory tires trued, mounted, and ready to go.

**See post #50 for Rules for the two classes we'll run: Stock, and Modified.

General questions can be posted here.

Specific questions about location, and the days racing, email Eddie.

I’m looking forward to a fun day of racing.

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Posted 01 July 2015 - 11:53 PM

Eddie, there is a space or something at the end of your link and it fails to open the page.

Look at it and clean off anything after the .html part

BTW, really nice looking track  :good:


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 01:38 AM

That's amazing. I race my anglewinder Slot.it Porsche GT1 on the high grip (spray glue) flat track at Rohnert Park and my car weighs 120gr !!!

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 07:49 PM

Well, kids, Race #1 is coming up this Sunday and it's been pretty quiet on the Slotblog front. I've heard from racers in the Farrout club, and others who race at Big Lou's. What about the rest of you? Details are in Post #76, but you still have to contact me to get the address, and other info. Hope you can make it. 

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 08:24 PM

I hope this opens a new chapter in So Cal.


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:04 PM

Dennis, what I am doing is gathering some good ideas and creating a racing series.

These ideas are not new, but putting a fresh face on a series that will be fun, yet competitive.

 

Visited Eddie's yesterday and the track will be prepared for Sunday’s event. His testing with the spec tires looks like they will run pretty good.

 

One of the ideas is to use a single platform for the stock and mod classes. One could conceivably run a stock class car in the mod class with just changing the crown gear and be competitive. There is the stock class that limits the tuning to a minimum for those that value racing over tuning and, a mod class for those that like to "engineer" their cars.

 

Thanks to all the track owners for hosting the races: Eddie, BPR, Rafael, Big Lou.

 

Will be a fun day this Sunday!


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:43 PM

I"d love to be there but I'm not available this Sunday.  Have fun!! I'll try to make the next race!!


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 05:51 PM

Good luck. I might be down in SoCal later this summer for work. If so I will prepare a car!.


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Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:25 PM

Just about ready for tomorrow's racing. Looks like anywhere from 10 - 13 or so are coming. If any of you decide to come the last minute, email me at: ed@shorer.com and I'll text you an address and directions.

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Posted 11 July 2015 - 09:22 PM

I will be selling some of my GP C stuff.... I have factory painted bodies and white kits. I have much stuff to sell since OCPR are not racing very often I do not need it all. Call, Email or PM me if interested.


I'm looking for a slot.it Porshce 956 body only. Do you have one you want to sell?
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Posted 11 July 2015 - 11:45 PM

MrWeiler, there are several for sale on Ebay. Just do a search for Slot.It  porsche.

 

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:24 AM

I'm looking for a slot.it Porshce 956 body only. Do you have one you want to sell?


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:22 PM

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Next Race:  BUENA PARK RACEWAY     August  9th

on the flat track


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Posted 22 July 2015 - 02:13 PM

Gearing up for the next race (pun intended): Does the Slot.it Sidewinder pod allow for various gear ratios by sliding/adjusting the motor in the pod, or must one "match" pinion and spur gears (smaller pinion and larger spur) if the gear is in a fixed position? What gear ratio do you think will be a good place to start for Buena Park's Flat track?

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 06:35 PM

You need to match pinion with spur. 11/32 is stock ratio for sidewinder.  18mm Spur and 6.5 mm Pinion. Have not raced on your flat track but racing at Rohnert Park I would at least drop a tooth on the spur (GS1831) You could also go 12/33. With the 12t pinion you'll have more flexibility to play with gear rations with spur gears from 31- 36 tooth.

 

FYI with my Flat6RS angle winder I'm running 12/28. ;-)


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 05:48 PM

An interesting conversation thread about using offset sidewinder pods is here:  http://www.slotcaril...ead.php?t=78997

In other news, I'm still a bit unclear as to which gears to use. If I use a 12 or 13 (that come in the set of pinions sold), will I be able to use  any of 18mm spurs, such as the SIGA 1832E Anglewinder gear, 18mm, 32T light ergal that Electric Dreams lists? 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 08:28 PM

I got NSR gears on my mod: 15/33. The 7.5mm dia pinon and 16.5mm dia aw spur, with the 1mm offset sw pod.

Added lead to car (car at 80grams now) runs decent on a glued flat track at BPR, may use more lead...

 

Rumor has it that Foamy has been seen gathering Slot.it parts... ???  And a set of the spec tires was seen in his pit space


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:26 PM

Why use a angle winder on a sidewinder? NSR GEARS don't have a good rep. Don't know if it's deserved or not. Is the lash ok on the NSR gears. Seems like you've lost .5mm there.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:42 PM

Just checked, I don't have any 18mm angle winder gears. Usually if I have an anglewinder I would want to use s smaller size gear. Like 16mm or even 15mm.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:45 PM

I wanted a BIG pinon, NSR had a 15t pinon. Have not had any issues with it yet on the Slot.it sw pod or the NSR aw pod.

Tried the NSR sw spur at first, but mesh was too tight on the sw Slot.it pod, 


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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:15 AM

I listed the anglewinder in my description above because that is what Electric Dreams stated the pod set came with: 11T pinion, and 34 T spur. I'm not sure that it's really an anglewinder gear. I haven't set it up yet. In any case, I will want to change those, since the other tracks we'll be running on all have very long straights for those gears. 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 11:26 AM

Who is running what bodies/liveries? I don't want to run what someone else is running.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:58 PM

Take a look at Scaleauto pinions and gears.

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 04:13 PM

Who is running what bodies/liveries? I don't want to run what someone else is running.

 

I'm running the Mercedes C9 #14 in stock and the Nissan C89 #85 in mod 

 

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Posted 29 July 2015 - 07:55 PM

Foamy: I don't think it matters in these races, and some probably won't know till the day of the race when it comes to the Stock class. We'll probably just put the spec red tires on our fastest car! My plan so far is: Modified, Red & White Lancia LC2 #24 West livery, and Stock, White Toyota #98.

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