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#1 tonyp

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 08:55 AM

We will start with this one. It was the first Retro East F1 winner, my first Retro East race winner, and Jay Kisling won a bunch of races including the Sano and I believe the R4. This where F1 started in Retro East.

Two rails of .063" and the guide lead is over 1" but I do not remember how long. The front wheels are attached to the pans instead of the center section, something I tried back 20 years earlier when I was running Group 7 (wing cars to you young kids). The supports for the front axle had to be changed as the IRRA® rules were finalized and had to be moved so they were no longer wider than the chassis and sticking out of the body.

Mr. Noose got the second version and Mike Katz the third. Noose just recently retired his which was in loaner mode and Mike ran his last year in the flat track Nats.

 

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:18 PM

Recently made this for a Colorado racer for a Hillclimb. Says it runs great, I owe him another one. 4" wheelbase, 1" guide lead, .047" rails, and .063" wire pans.

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Posted 01 August 2015 - 07:35 AM

F1 based on the Duffy War Beaver kit. 4" wheelbase, 1" guide lead, Wallenda style pans.

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Fresh out of the tumbler. I used the HVR polish on this one. it works great. Just need to engrave it.
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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:59 PM

Tony,

 

Do you prefer a longer guide lead on an F1? On these, you're tending toward a longer-than-"normal" lead.

 

Curious minds want to know – and thanks for your insights.

 

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 04:56 AM

I like 1 inch on F1. Never had a shorter one work all that well.

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Posted 03 August 2015 - 11:34 AM

Maybe that's been my problem. I've never had much luck racing F1. Will have to give it a try.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:33 PM

This F1 is like the one further up in the post. Mr S. Said the last one was so good to roll another.

4" wheelbase, 1" guide lead, .047" main rails, and .063" pans. Duffy 1" bracket cut to sit on top of the rails and Duffy guide tongue.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 07:08 PM

Tony,

Do the piano wire pans weigh any different than using .064" X 1/4" brass?

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 07:50 PM

Lighter.

Plus they don't bend up.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 01:29 PM

New F1 to test this weekend at the P1 GRRR race.

.047 rails and .063 wire pans. Center weight independent from pan assembly. Duffy bracket and bottom plate. Nose piece not sure, I have had it for a long time it maybe something Bryan Warmack made for me.
4" WB, 1" GL.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:30 PM

Wallenda Pans???

 

What ARE Wallenda pans??  :)


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:00 PM

No they just shake around and are captured by the tubes in front and back by bracket. The center pan is completely unattached to the pans it rattles around in the square tubes in front of the rear body mount and center mount on nose piece.
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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:27 PM

Mr. Noose asked me to make him a copy of his favorite Octopussy F1 chassis. So here is Son of Octopussy.
4" wb, 1" gl. 4 rails of.047 wire. .063 pans. Front wheels are mounted on the pans. The

 

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:31 PM

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:58 PM

Very interesting design!  Plumber shaker with the wheels mounted on the pans?  Shaker weight in the middle mounts to the body.  How much does it weigh complete?  :)


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Posted 23 September 2015 - 01:02 PM

Octopussy Senior comes in at 108 grams.  Has been fantastic on all tracks for me.  This should be about the same.  Matt Bruce used the "sister" to this one to win the Formula 1 Flat Track event at one of the Sano's.

 

Also one thing more:  I love the fact that full body pins can be used and not 1/4 inch ones so you don't hit the motor.


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Posted 23 September 2015 - 01:13 PM

Good stuff that!

 

If I might axe..........what is the dia. of the front plumber hinge rod..........055 or .062?


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Posted 23 September 2015 - 02:27 PM

.063.
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Posted 06 October 2015 - 02:20 PM

The son worked better than the father at the Sano! Got 5th overall and it was the first time I have ever made the F1 A Main at the Sano.


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 09:13 PM

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:16 AM

This is a new F1 I built up for the race at P1 on the Hillclimb last week. Ran it about a dozen laps and handed it to Marcus who was third in the main. Ran good especially since no tuning was done to it at all especially tires. We ran it with a Chicagoland McLaren, no time to try any other body.

4-1/8" wheelbase, .90" guide lead
Four rails of .047" wire for rails.

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Posted 04 August 2016 - 06:21 AM

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New F1 for Terry Tawney.

Octopussy style
.047" rails
.063" pans
Chicagoland nosepiece and bracket
.016" floating inner pan
4" wheelbase, 1" guidelead.

57 grams.
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Posted 11 August 2016 - 07:57 AM

Beat this out yesterday for this weekend's Retro race on Fast Eddie's Hillclimb.

Plumber pan setup with shaker center plate attached to pin tubes.
.047" main rails and .063" pan rails.
4" wheelbase X 1" guide lead.
Bud's front axle and fronts.
Duffy F1 rear bracket and Chicagoland tongue.
56 grams.

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:09 AM

Great debut race for the new Evil Bucks Octo F1 chassis on the flat track at BPR this weekend.

Dale Yamashita was top qualifier, first in the main, turned fastest lap in the main and won concours to top his day off!

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:54 AM

The new Evil F1 chassis will be available in a week. Check Racer Swap Shop.
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