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#1 tonyp

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 11:00 AM

We'll start this topic same as the F1 topic with the first two Retro chassis I built. Got my jig on Monday of race week and managed to get two cars together working an hour in the morning before work and during lunch and an hour after work.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:28 PM

Built this a few weeks ago for Holly Hill where ran really well when I tested it. Has 4" wheelbase, .90" guide lead, .039" rails, .025" Duffy pans, and .025" center plate. Comes in at 106 grams complete.

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I ran this to second qualifier and second in the main at Holly Hill this weekend. Best car I ever had there. I think it would make an excellent flat track chassis as Holly Hill is as flat as we we have in FL.

After the race I gifted it to Doc as a retirement gift.
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Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:31 PM

This is competing this weekend in the UK enduro. Same 4" wheelbase, .90" gide lead, .047" rails.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:36 PM

This car ran really well on the Melbourne and P1 Hillclimbs. Duffy kit, 3-7/8" wheelbase, .750" guide lead, .039" rails.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 12:41 PM

Here is one I never should have sold. It always runs well and I have had my best results at Holly Hill with it. It won the last two Can-Ams and the last GTC race. Has 4" wheelbase, .90" guide lead, .047" rails, shaker center plate of .016".

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 07:20 PM

Here is my replacement. Tried it at Holly Hill today and it was killer. The motor was just not as good as the one I raced and since we got there late this morning and I had Captain Bob's RTR to sort out, I ran the one a couple of pictures up. All worked out well in the end.

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 10:25 AM

The now famous Aero car. I got my first podium (second) at an IRRA® event (RetroPalooza 1) using this frame in Coupe. The interesting part is that it did not start out as an Aero frame. The basics were there and after Tony saw how good his was he told me to get it back to him and the conversion was made. This frame is still in use and was even great on the HVR flat Track for the Flat Track Nats.
 
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Posted 31 July 2015 - 07:57 AM

I still have mine, ran it at our last GTC race, still runs great.

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 09:19 AM

Your stuff is absolutely awesome to look at, Tony!
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Posted 31 July 2015 - 01:41 PM

You make me blush. LOL.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:29 PM

Tony,

 

You ought to be good at this stuff. I mean, how long have you been building chassis? Forty+ years?

 

With that much practice, it'd be pretty embarrassing if you weren't good at it... LOL!


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:39 PM

You forgot the 20 years I never went inside a slot track. LOL.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 02:41 PM

Hey, it's like riding a bicycle... you never lose the touch...


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 03:04 PM

Tony, what would the last chassis on the black background cost?

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:06 AM

Here is my inspiration for that first 8 rail chassis built years ago. I remember when Wayne built this at Nutley and how unconventional it was compared to what Bob Emott and Jerry Brady were running. Ran very well. Built a couple at the time. Always stayed in the back of my head.

So everything old is sometimes new again.

 

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:30 AM

All works of art. I Like the little pans in the rear of new one. Nice work by a master.

 

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 06:49 AM

I stole those too. LOL.

 

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The split pans worked but on some chassis they made the chassis chatter. Jerry's solution was to hinge them so you had the rear weight but they were decoupled from the center section.

 

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Posted 07 August 2015 - 11:07 AM

Man, those '70s cars were complicated mamma-jammas.  :shok:

 

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 09:13 AM

Short wheelbase Can-Am for our next race at P1. .039" rails, 3-7/8" wheelbase, 7/8" guide lead, and a whopping 48 grams...

 

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Posted 08 August 2015 - 06:14 PM

DHMI guide tongue and bracket?


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Posted 08 August 2015 - 08:02 PM

Always.

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 05:57 PM

Some of my old chassis that I found looking through some boxes.

 

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Posted 09 August 2015 - 10:01 PM

Tony,

Did you ever make a "lifter" type chassis? The front wheel arm lifted a lever that transferred the weight to the opposite side when the front wheel on the outside of the turn raised up from the chassis leaning in a turn? These were in vogue in the Midwest in the early '80s.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:13 AM

Yes. The lever ran from front wheel assembly under bite bar.

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 07:06 AM

There was another hinge on the bite bar to the plumber rail as I recall. This was really effective as long as the front wheels had to touch and roll.

 

Do you have any examples left? Mine are long gone. Who came up with this?


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:37 PM

Chris,

 

When I quit I gave everything, cars, chassis, box, tools, controller, etc., to one of the little kids at BIR raceway and never picked up a controller or looked at a slot car until around 20 years later when Retro started.


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Posted 10 August 2015 - 07:16 PM

Geez, what a prize!
 
I hope it comes up on eBay and no one else sees it... LOL.
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Posted 16 August 2015 - 06:41 AM

GTC couple headed out to far midwest.

Shaker center plate. 4" wheelbase, .90" guide lead, and rails of .0625" wire. 58 grams.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 07:47 AM

I like the change of page in the book to match. Nice work too as always!


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Posted 27 August 2015 - 07:58 PM

Built this up for the GRRR race this weekend for Marcus to put in the showcase for sale. Excellent style for our Hillclimbs in Florida.

4" wheelbase and .950" guide lead. Three rails of .055" wire. Duffy HMI parts with floating center plate.

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 09:21 AM

New six multi-rail of .039". 4" wheelbase .950" guide lead, 45 grams. Duffy HMI guide and bracket. Probably headed out west.

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 10:00 AM

Replacement chassis going out today to make up for the repair UPS lost.

Four rails .047". 4" wheelbase, 1" guide lead, 54.1 grams. Pans are .032". Duffy tongue and bracket.

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 10:42 AM

When I quit I gave everything, cars, chassis, box, tools, controller, etc., to one of the little kids at BIR raceway and never picked up a controller or looked at a slot car until around 20 years later when Retro started.


I remember you and Ernie perusing the Zepplin Nats in '91.
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Posted 04 September 2015 - 11:25 AM

Just stopped to see an old friend.

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 12:21 PM

Actualy the Zeppelin Nats were '92.
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Posted 04 September 2015 - 01:18 PM

I can barely remember that far back
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 10:55 AM

Trying this Saturday for our next Hillclimb race in Melbourne. The last one was really good but alas I no longer have it. LOL.

4" wheelbase, .850" guide lead. Nine rails of .039" wire ground down to .035". Pans are .047". 49.4 grams.

Duffy F1 bracket cut to sit on top of the rails. And of course Duffy tongue. 102 grams complete with noose painted Parma Ti22. Should be a bit lighter with the HVR race tires on the rear.

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Tested this Saturday. Ran well out of the box. Track was a bit slick. Ran the same times as my other two cars. Very good up the donut on Melbourne's Hillclimb. Needed some Kelly Retros which I did not have a big enough pair left to use. Can't get them down here in Florida.

So all in all car was good need to change motor and she's all set for next week.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 05:32 PM

You hiding an over/under grinder in your lair to be able to turn your piano wire? 


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 05:50 PM

Secret.

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:06 PM

Fine-looking chassis.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:45 PM

O.K. now I see how you ground the rails, very interesting. Did you solder the rails all the way front to rear?
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:02 PM

I always solder them full length.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 06:40 AM

I like the feel of the rails soldered full length, plus after I scrape away all the extra solder I feel the flex will be more even side to side than not soldering all the way where you can't control the amount the solder flows between the rails.

Bob Emott taught me this and I have pretty much always did it this way.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 11:04 AM

How do you determine where to put the tape?

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 11:45 AM

I just stick some always on the rails by the motor and if I have any left some on the rails up front. I think it deadens the wire same as like using brass rod rails. If the car has brass pans or a shaker plate I throw a piece on those also. No science to it, no right or wrong, as long as it is one there.

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 12:45 PM

Thank you,
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Posted 17 September 2015 - 01:04 PM

Any time.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 08:23 AM

Something I wanted to try again. I built a "F1" style chassis with the fronts mounted to the pans in the first year of Retro. It was actually really good but was very heavy.

This one is still porky at 107 grams as set up, but if it works well I can make the next one much lighter. It is a standard Octopussy center section with the front wheels mounted F1 style. Trying it this weekend at P1.

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 09:10 AM

Lightweight Octopussy headed out west for punched King track.

.047" rails and pans, 3-7/8" wheelbase, 7/8" guide lead, 41 grams. Duffy bracket and guide tongue.

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 02:19 PM

Noose,

Please forgive an ignorant question, but could you give some details about the motor in the Aero car above. The resistors(?) are unfamiliar to me.

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