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#51 Pablo

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 02:55 PM

You should be worried. :laugh2:


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Posted 28 September 2015 - 03:04 PM

Sweet! Certainly a lot lower and I bet a whole lot faster than the original Jupiter.  :D :laugh2:

Came out great, Pablo, and I can imagine that is gonna fly round the Dungeon track!



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 03:55 PM

Thanks, Paul.   :)

 

Billy, I didn't install any upstop mechanisms for the front wheels. Please make sure they don't hang up on the body when placing it on the track.

 

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If it becomes an issue, I'll fix it. Lack of front wheels isn't going to stop this car anyway.  :D


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Posted 28 September 2015 - 04:14 PM

I never built a tripod chassis with independent "L" or "A" arms that needed an upstop on the fronts. The .032" springs should provide all the limitation that you need. Generally speaking, if fronts hang up on a body you can either kick the wheels inward or trim the wheelwells larger.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 06:35 AM

I am waiting by the mail box, 200 yards from the house. I wish it would stop raining, maybe I should have brought an umbrella  and a sack lunch.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 07:14 AM

Did you bring the pet snake? :unknw:


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 01:08 PM

Better bring several sack lunches - it won't be there until Thursday.  :)


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 03:11 PM

Came down with a cold from sitting in the rain by the mailbox, but the car finely came. Looks even better than the pictures, can't wait to run it.

 

Thanks, Pablo,  

 

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 04:23 PM

You are very welcome, sir. Thanks for letting us come race at The Dungeon.
 
Minnie's Go-Kart will be a runner, so stand by... no, not by the mailbox, Billy. :laugh2:
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Posted 02 October 2015 - 08:04 PM

Anyone ever sell purple donuts? :D


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 08:47 PM

Not without sprinkles, Bill. But blue adds class.  :sarcastic_hand:  Can't wait to see it run tomorrow.  :D


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Posted 30 October 2015 - 12:09 PM

Here's a photo of something I've personally never seen before - a Pro Slot 4002B without a seal :laugh2:
 
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I'm going to blueprint it and install a Havlicek arm just for fun. Yes, I'm aware it may be too much power for a Go-Kart. No shortage of those motors here, so I can always swap it for a stock one.

I just want to see the look on Red's face when Minnie pulls the trigger on it. :crazy:
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Posted 30 October 2015 - 02:08 PM

Before disassembly (in case the alignments were already perfect), I took a photo so I can re-assemble it the same way.

North magnet and positive terminal to the rear, P3 engraving on the end bell up.
 
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Sure enough, the alignments were spot on. Passes the "blank shaft drops though brush holder bar under it's own weight" test.

This time, I got smart (ala dc-65x) and planned where my can brace wire would attach - tinned it before painting the can. :)
 
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Bushings were both tight and well aligned, but the can end needed a slight touch up with the Ungar.
 
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Now, where did I put that doggone pink spray paint? :D


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Posted 30 October 2015 - 03:07 PM

Going to need lots of pink for Minnie.

Sorry to hear you are not making the race. I was sick this month so I didn't get a chance to sweep out the woodshed. If you do make it I'll sweep it real quick. I don't want you getting any splinters. LOL!!!

I know the kart will be great.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

:laugh2:  Thanks, Red.  Found the Rustoleum fluorescent pink.
 
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Posted 01 November 2015 - 05:10 PM

This is how I start off jigging up my anglewinder scratchbuilds. Ain't sayin' it's "the right way" - it just works for me.
The body determines everything - wheelbase, guide lead, widths, wheel sizes, style, etc.
 
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.660" OD wheels with .032" clearance needs a spur of .595" OD to be level with the chassis bottom.  A 64p 36t works. So I mocked it up with the wheels, spacers and oilites, then measured the desired tubing width to be .960".
 
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PS 4002B motors are usually geared 7t/28 with .820" OD wheels for a Retro car. Using Pro Slot's "Final Drive Ratio" calculator, this gives a factor of 4.88.

Using my little .660" Go-Kart wheels, 11/36" is a very close match at 4.96.
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Posted 01 November 2015 - 06:30 PM

Microdot of super glue holds the 11t pinion on the jig motor for planning.

Now I can see where I need to trim the tube. I'll cut it too big the first time so nothing keeps the motor from going in nice and tight.
 
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 10:21 AM

I measured the angle I wanted at 15 degrees, then marked a line on the left/right balance point at that angle.
 
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Then centered the marks on both ends.
 
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I got lucky this time, it all lines up perfect and the motor is balanced left/right. A couple microdots of super glue hold it on the jig.

Now I can get my good spur gear out of there and make a perfect tube.
 
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:06 PM

Endbell is just a few thou too low to allow a rail under it.
 
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Jig motor endbell comes off, gets shaved down a little, and gets right back in the game. :dance3:
 
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:43 PM

Despite efforts to protect the JK spur, I ruined it anyway. ^_^ So I ground it down a little, re-classified it as a "jig gear" and it went back on. (Good thing I always order at least two of everything.)
 
I found a much better way to secure a jig motor than gluing it to the jig. The chassis is going to need a "can to tube" brace eventually anyway, so might as well do it now. Learned it in a dc-65x "Neat Things" thread. :D
 
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Another dc-65x tip - a slight angle on the edges of the .063" brass center section allows solder to pool where the inner rails connect.
For now, everything is just tacked on in the right places.
 
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:36 PM

Jig motor and jig wheels removed. They are simply an annoyance at this point.  :crazy:
 
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Parts are perfectly centered and flat. Even Go-Karts need precision. :yes3:

It's easier to do it right first time than wonder why it didn't work out later...
 
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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:01 PM

Piano wire to .063" brass using the angle trick worked out nice.
 
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Posted 04 November 2015 - 08:03 PM

Track test #1 on Jupiter: Billy said it smoked his controller. Now I understand why he wanted ME to be the first test pilot. :laugh2:
If need be, we can easily swap motors to something milder.
 
Meanwhile, Minnie's Go-Kart is getting plumbered.
 
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Posted 13 November 2015 - 05:44 PM

Go-Kart is in the tumbler. :dance3:

I wasn't happy with the can paint results, so I re-masked it and will start over.
 
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This time I'll coat it with white first and we shall see if the pink "pops" any better.
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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:37 PM

Minnie's Go-Kart chassis is done.

 

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Looks a lot like the Jupiter. But it's an anglewinder.  :)


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 08:39 PM

Lots of brass, anglewinder, powerful motor, and the go-kart shell that thing is gonna fly round the Dungeon! :D

Goes superbly with the Jupiter.  :good:



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Posted 14 November 2015 - 11:28 PM

Thanks, Paul  :)

 

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I hope Minnie likes the paint - driver in pink, passenger in blue.

The motor can is going to pop a much brighter pink with the white undercoat.

I know for certain, because I already tested it :wink2:


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 07:45 AM

Very nice Pablo. I knew you couldn't resist putting some blue on it. LOL See ya soon! :sun_bespectacled:


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 09:14 AM

:laugh2:  If somebody gave my wife a car with a male passenger wearing a pink driving suit, I'd be seeing Red. :laugh2:

Time to get the drivers ready. Now, where did I put that doll hair?  Not sure I can make it work, but I'm going to try. :shok:
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Posted 15 November 2015 - 03:13 PM

LOL!!!


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 03:21 PM

If you run out of doll hair, dog hair will work. :laugh2:


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Posted 15 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

The Go-Kart motor, a Hershman blueprinted stock Pro Slot 4002B.

 

Clear-coated with 500 degree engine enamel.
 
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Posted 16 November 2015 - 12:22 PM

Jupiter track test #1 results - the good, the bad, and the ugly:

 

- Big wire arm was of questionable origin, and it cooked the endbell.   :laugh2:

 

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- Vintage blue donuts shredded like lettuce.

 

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Billy requested we save the blue wheels "as is" because they look nice, so I cleaned 'em and bottled 'em. I found a suitable set of replacement wheels in the "vintage box of wheel horrors" and mounted Wonder Rubber on them

 

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- Car has zero damage, and very small patches of track scum in a couple of places on both sides. That tells me the ride height is perfect. (Thanks, Cheater.) 

 

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- Braid wear appears even (thanks again, Cheater :D ). Tells me the dynamics of the car are OK.

 

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I did these diagnostic tests from 400 miles away. Don't try this at home, kids.   :laugh2:

 

It's all part of the fine-tuning process. Very simple; all the Jupiter needs is a tamer motor and good tires. 


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:09 AM

Go-Kart is done. Passes the drivetrain test with flying colors.

 

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I finally decided on 10/36 gears with the .670" wheels.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 03:09 PM

Cheater gifted me these Kelly race price wheels years ago, now trimmed at trued at .670".

Go-Kart backup wheels in case the black wheels are too grippy.

 

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I need a driver attachment method that will have some "give" in case of a rollover, instead of a broken neck.  :)

This is what I came up with. First, a 1/4" long .030" hole in the necks of both drivers.

 

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A piece of .025" wire bent at 90 degree angles with shrink tube in between.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 04:25 PM

Driver Minnie's hair, secured with Kevlar thread, double overhand knots, and Super Glue.

 

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Havlicek will be proud, I'm sure.  :curtsey:

 

Good thing I remember how to braid hair from my horseback riding days.  :)


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 06:29 PM

Just like tying dry flies...

 

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Posted 18 November 2015 - 07:20 AM

Very cool!


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 09:02 AM

Does the go-kart come with a hair net, or at least an elastic? :)


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 01:27 PM

Patience, Grasshopper :D


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Posted 18 November 2015 - 06:25 PM

Blonde doll hair patches will be secured to the body. :)

 

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The body needs to be trimmed a little in two places for vertical clearance of motor and gear.

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 07:45 AM

Minnie's hair is secured with a dollop of Plastic Bonder and runs through a notch in the neck hole

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 09:44 AM

My wire attachment method may not be pretty, but I think it's going to work.

 

Both heads can shift without failing. Only a crash test will prove me right or wrong.  :D

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:07 AM

You bring rubbernecking to a whole new dimension. :good:


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:16 AM

Thanks Bill (I guess) :laugh2:   It's done.

Weight is 107.8 grams and balance point is exactly midway between the body pins.

 

Minnie, don't go too slow or your hair might get caught in the gears :crazy:

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:27 PM

New (vintage) Jupiter wheels with .783 Wonder rubber.

 

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The body has developed a running crack so I tried an old Navy trick to try and stop it. Don't know if it works on slot car bodies, but we'll find out.

 

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 05:15 PM

Looks like a PETG crack. Let us know how the drilled and plugged hole works on stopping the crack.from spreading. I've seen that process used before, but forget if it was with wood or metal.


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 05:58 PM

It's not plugged, Sir, just drilled. I think plugging it would defeat the purpose.

 

Chassis examination: zero problems. I cleaned off the pixie dust and re-oiled the hinges.

 

Post-meltdown examination of the cooked motor was almost as fun for me as building a new motor :D  The carnage was interesting

 

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One brush is permanently embedded in the endbell, and there was obviously some rough welding going on. :laugh2:

The arm was of questionable origin to begin with, and was way too much for this car anyway.

Onward to motor plan "B" :dance3:

 


 

 


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 07:47 PM

It looks plugged in the photo. ^_^


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:00 PM

It's probably because the background is white, Bill.

Here is the port side.

 

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Trust me, it's just a hole in the body :D


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