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[NJ SpeedZone]

2015 Fall Brawl VI Retro Nationals 
 
November 12-15, 2015 - NJ SpeedZone, Mt. Holly, NJ
 

Four days of great Retro racing, Seven classes on three tracks!!

 

Raceway will open at 10 AM on Thursday and 8 AM on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Thursday, 11/12:  4 PM - Can-Am Plus, followed by RetroPro on the King, 30 min after Can Am Plus. $20 entry each class.

Friday, 11/13:  10 AM - Stock Car on the Jersey Devil, GTC-FK Coupe and GTC - Pro on the Engleman. Tech 60 min after Stock Cars for both classes at the same time. GTC-Pro will run 30 min after GTC-FK Coupe. Both GTC classes will be hand-out Hawk Retro motors. $30 entry each class. Stock Car $20 Entry.

Saturday, 11/14:  10:30 AM - F1 on King (G9) .790" rear diameter tires and .040" clearance allowed. $20 entry.

 

After F1 is over we will have our annual pit party!!

 

Sunday, 11/15:  10:30 AM - Can-Am on Engleman. $20 entry.

 

Pit Pass $15 each day.

 

Hotel Info

 

An agreement with the Westampton Quality Inn and Suites for the 8-11 of November has been made to accommodate racers coming to the Fall Brawl at SpeedZone. The rooms must be booked no later then one week prior to the race to assure the rate and availability.The room rate is $69.99/night. The racer needs to mention SpeedZone and/or speak to the GM, Nancy Carpenter, when they book the rooms. Quality Inn and Suites, 2015 Route 541, Westampton, NJ 08060, (609) 845-9400

 

 

As a guest of this Westampton, NJ, hotel, you can enjoy full-service features including:

• Free continental breakfast
• Free wireless high-speed Internet access
• Free weekday newspaper
• Seasonal outdoor pool
• Fitness center

This New Jersey hotel provides corporate travelers with modern conveniences like a public computer with Internet access, copy and fax service and a meeting room that can accommodate most functions. In addition to standard amenities, all well-appointed guest rooms have coffee makers withfree coffee, curved shower rods, hair dryers, spacious work desks, voice mail, irons, ironing boards, and cable television. Select rooms are oversized suites that also have whirlpool bathtubs, microwaves, refrigerators, and sofa sleepers.There is a picnic area located on the premises and coin-operated laundry facilities are available for guest use. On-site free parking is provided and can accommodate most vehicles. 

SpeedZone Raceway & Hobbies
201 Pine St.
Mt. Holly, NJ 08060
(609) 702-0146

[usadar]

I would like to now the store hours of the raceway between November 8 & 11.

Haruki

[Noose]

And why is GTC-Pro on the flat track? Will be less entries for that class then. Plus the winner of the GTC-FK class gets free entry into the GTC Pro and then has to get their car ready for the flat track from the Engleman?

I seriously suggest GTC-Pro be moved to the Engleman.

[NJ SpeedZone]

I would like to now the store hours of the raceway between November 8 & 11.

 

Tentative hours are gonna be Sun 10-4, Mon 2-9, Tues closed, and Wed 2-9 for that week.

[Chris Radisich]

If you are on the list, you are more than capable of racing on the Jersey Devil.

[slotracer43]

I'm hearing all racers will be invited to run Coupe on the flat track, even those running FK coupe. SpeedZone will probably post to confirm this.

[Noose]

Then this should not be called an IRRA^® event if the rules are not to be followed for GTC.

[Noose]

If you are on the list, you are more than capable of racing on the Jersey Devil.

 

Disagree. Most guys on the List got there from their performance on non-flat tracks.

 

Sorry, but the guy that wins GTC-FK gets a move-up and free entry to GTC-Pro. They cannot change cars and has 30 minutes to set the whole car for the Devil? 

Major races should be run on tracks that are more neutral for the majority of the attendees.

 

But it's Mike's race. He can do what he wants of course. Racers will make their choices but I would rather see more racers overall for GTC than less. 

[Jay Guard]

I agree with Chris and I'm sensing a lot "flat track fear" here.  

 

As for the set-up thing, it sounds like a little practice time in advance on the flat track with your GTC ought to suffice. I say bring It!

[Noose]

No flat track fear Jay. I ran the hotel Nats on the flat track. I even run it at the Sano when I can. Just stating my opinion on what's best for the overall event and racers. You are one of the few like Chris that is a great flat track racer. The locals are too for that particular track.

[Tom Thumb Hobbies]

I am very interested in flat track racing. Some of the videos of FT racing in Europe are extremely cool. But I don't think it is "flat track fear" talking here. I think you would agree that it takes exponentially more practice on an unknown FT than an unknown King to be even mildly competitive. Those that have the time and money for that much pre-race practice would be fine. Those that  don't may be just donating their entry fee. I'd love to give it a go... but that's just me. I think many would not.

[Samiam]

Sure, the locals with thousands of laps on that track will have an advantage. But how many racers did laps on the JD while there for other events? If you didn't then it's your bad. Just get there early and you can practice with Haruki from the 8th to the 11th.
 
I only ran on it to break in motors a few times. It is tricky and challenging. But that is racing.
 
Flat Tracks Matter!

[Matt Bruce]

I agree there probably would be more entries if the race was held on the Engleman, but SpeedZone has catered to that program the last few years. Nothing wrong with changing it up though. Mike had the coupe race on the flat years ago and it was great.

 

Utilizing all three tracks at Speedzone makes this race unique, much like the Checkpoint Cup has done in the past. The list is pretty long now anyway as far as "Pros", and to make a decision based on one guy that wins Am, who may or may not choose to race Pro is thin. There are many who would like to race the flat, and being Retro never gets scheduled to race on the flat during the Retro East season, which for entry purposes I understand, I think a race which draws so many great racers that most of them will give it a go.

 

It's never easy to walk in any raceway and learn a track, but that's what makes you a better all-around racer. The Fall Brawl is exactly what it's name means. It's a street fight, and lives up to its billing every year by far. And to be honest, I think it would be great to see the person who wins Am put their purse down and run the flat. LOL.

 

That's what the Brawl is all about, taking it to the biggest guys on the block and sayin, "Let's go".

[Half Fast]

While I tend to agree mostly with Noose's position on this. Perhaps the set-up up issue between tracks could be solved by allowing the Am winner to use another car if he/she so chooses. This would put the Am on an even basis with the Pros who would be running flat track cars.

 

Cheers,

[Noose]

The same car has to be used

[Cap Henry]

If a Pro driver doesnt want to run the JD, they can simply skip that race LOL. No one is forcing them to run it.

 

When I did Sano a few years ago I skipped the flat track races; I just didn't have time to do both properly. 

 

The JD looks like an awesome track.

[DGRacer]

Way to go, SpeedZone ! Hope you let all racers enter GTC on the the Jersey Devil. Entries will not be a problem with an open class. Not just the ones on "THE LIST ".

[S.O. Watt]

What kind of tyres for coupe on the JD?

👍👍

[Noose]

So now all the GTC classes on the Devil? That should eliminate two-thirds of the field for the overall championship.

[Upfront slot cars]

How about the braid depth on all the tracks?

[Jay Guard]

I totally agree with Matt and I also think that a true champion can take on any challenge and come out on top!

 

BTW... Thanks for the compliment, Joe!!

[Samiam]

Noose's concern is a valid one. If the race does not bring enough entries maybe it could be opened up to the gen pop. 

[Half Fast]

While I tend to agree mostly with Noose's position on this. Perhaps the set-up up issue between tracks could be solved by allowing the Am winner to use another car if he/she so chooses. This would put the Am on an even basis with the Pros who would be running flat track cars.

 

The same car has to be used

 
So if this is not run under IRRA^® rules (see your post #7), what difference does it make?
 
Cheers,

[Pat Skeggs]

Noose is correct, you will have less drivers for the flat track.

 

But depends what you are looking for? Are you looking for the best overall driver.Then you should include the flat track. If you are looking for more racers then the flat track should be out. Yes, the SpeedZone crew will have a big advantage, but there is nothing wrong with a little home court advantage.

 

In the end the cream will rise to the top like it always does.

[Noose]

Well, I made a suggestion.

 

Run Stock Cars on the Flat Track and start at 9:30 on Friday. Run both GTC Classes on the Engleman after that. Gives time for hand-out motor break-in and more entries.

 

And, still time for guys to go to the other building to tune up for F1.

 

Just sayin'...