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#1 Mbloes

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 01:41 PM

I recently acquired this 888 kit and had all the pieces for a nice build so I went ahead.

 

This kit had two unique features that I had never seen before:

 

1) the cut out drop arm (pictured), and

 

2) it came with a pair of the infamous front wheels (not used, stored deep in the vault).

 

I built the chassis pretty much per the kit with one exception - I flopped the pans out.

 

The arm is an unknown big wire arm.  The fronts are a pair of salvaged RVM - REH wheels.  Rears are Limpach fresh cuts, still available from Mid America.

 

Body is an original Champion Shadow body ("NCC legal").

 

Check it out (Click through for a nice big pic)

 

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Chassis kit - Dave Reed

Body - Rick Thigpen

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 01:43 PM

Two more chassis pics . . .

 

888 4.jpg

 

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:26 PM

That is simply gorgeous!

 

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:48 PM

That is simply gorgeous!
 
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Fantastic job on having the kit and putting it together. The original fronts and the body just finish it off perfectly.

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:56 PM

I had an 888 back in the day.  

 

It must have been incredibly durable because I was real new at slots back then.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:23 PM

Sweet looking build!


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:41 PM

Mike, your build looks very nice! I had never heard of an "888 Kit" being available or an 888 that used the Parma droparm w/hole. Is the droparm & pan thickness of yours both .040?  I've owned 888 chassis #112 since they first came out in the early 70's. It's still in good shape with a solid droparm & pans, both with a .040 thickness.


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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:55 PM

I was thinking the same thing, Bill.  I owned many 888 chassis and never saw a kit or one with a hole in the center pan.  Never saw one with the 888 stamped in that location either. 

 

It is a very nice build.  Beautiful car!  I always liked that Champion Shadow body.


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:02 AM

In 1977 there was an 888 kit. It came with droparm, pans, front and rear axle tubes, and motor bracket. You had to supply piano wire and brass tubing.


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:15 AM

I knew that body would look better painted and mounted on a cool car than sitting in it's box.   :good:   That simple white paint job is absolutely stunning. :wub:


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 02:36 PM

In the late 90s I called  Jan  and inquired if he had any chassis kits that he would sell... He said yes and I bought all he had at the time.. All were in packages with Header cards unattached...This is one of them.. Mike PM me on a For Sale post that was 6 years old and I was happy to see Someone was still interested in some of the Real Retro stuff...



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Posted 12 September 2015 - 03:03 PM

In the late 90s I called  Jan  and inquired if he had any chassis kits that he would sell... He said yes and I bought all he had at the time.. All were in packages with Header cards unattached...This is one of them.. Mike PM me on a For Sale post that was 6 years old and I was happy to see Someone was still interested in some of the Real Retro stuff...

 

Retro: looking like or relating to styles or fashions from the past

 

Vintage; a period of origin or manufacture

 

      (www.merriam-webster.com)

 

 

That is one sweet 1970s vintage slot car.

 



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Posted 12 September 2015 - 03:31 PM

Aquired in the 90s and built in 2015..= Real Retro :sun_bespectacled:



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Posted 12 September 2015 - 04:16 PM

 

 

I was happy to see Someone was still interested in some of the Real Retro stuff...

 

I can definitely relate Dave :D

 

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 04:46 PM

I thought one had to be 65 to really appreciate real retro stuff.


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 05:22 PM

I love it. Especially the unique heat sinks. Who made them?

 

And where can I get myself a kit?


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:06 PM

Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end......

 

Schweet!


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 08:55 PM

I love it. Especially the unique heat sinks. Who made them?

 

And where can I get myself a kit?

 

Those heat sinks were made by Russ Boyington, a CT pro slot car racer & Pratt Whitney Aircraft machinist in E. Hartford, during the early 70's.

 

In post #11, Dave Reed said he had bought all the 888 kits from Limpach in the late 90's.


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:10 PM

All the 888s I had are gone  :D  all I have are the Pacesetters...And Jan may have found more 888s.. :shok:



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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:18 PM

I thought one had to be 65 to really appreciate real retro stuff.

Grandparents are a wonderfull thing...Started playing with slots in 64..



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Posted 12 September 2015 - 10:52 PM

 

Those heat sinks were made by Russ Boyington, a CT pro slot car racer & Pratt Whitney Aircraft machinist in E. Hartford, during the early 70's.

 

In post #11, Dave Reed said he had bought all the 888 kits from Limpach in the late 90's.

I thought those looked like the ones Russ made but mine have cuts in the top and a fold in the front.


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Posted 12 September 2015 - 11:50 PM

Shiny!

 

Bring back Firefly!


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Posted 13 September 2015 - 05:43 AM

I thought those looked like the ones Russ made but mine have cuts in the top and a fold in the front.

 

Bob, I think there were variations. I have both solid & slotted ones in aluminum & solid ones of sheet copper.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 12:03 PM

First, thanks for all of the positive comments.  You guys were busy over the weekend but now that I'm back at work I'm free to post (LOL).

 

It seems that all questions have been answered one way or the other, but I will just expand.

 

As he mentioned above, I got the kit from Dave Reed.  It was perfect and beautiful and came with everything and more.  It came with both sizes front axle tubes, all piano wire perfectly cut & bent and - the best part - a set of the front wheels (no independent rotation thingies though).  Rear axle tube is 3/32" only.  Brass is all .040".

 

The heat sinks are still available from Mid America - I am looking at an eBay listing for them as I write this.

 

And Dave, if there are more kits to be made available, put me first on the list!


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 02:28 PM

Mike, my chassis #112 was built for 3/32" axles front & rear. I ran Aguirre 5/8" o-ring fronts on it. In the day. independent rotating fronts weren't used. It was common place to just lock both front hubs on a solid axle with set screws. Independent rotating fronts came into use with the "L" & "A" arms when droparms stopped being used. PCH shows the pans on its web site, so what you'd need for building more copies would be to find a source of droparms.

 

Russ Boyington has been out of slotcars for at least 20 yrs. Any heat sinks of his design sold today would obviously have been made by someone else. The originals would have had a yellow header card reading Bullet Racing.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 03:12 PM

Yeah, I understand what you're saying about the front end.  In my case, I saw that Jan used RVM's on his 1972 car and I had some that I wanted to use so I built it that way.

 

The heat sinks sold by Mid America are described as "Bullit" so I don't think anyone is necessarily repopping them. I wouldn't care anyways, they are very cool. But the copper ones that you have sound very cool.

 

As an aside, I'm surprised at some of the "older" stuff that I've found just by searching online retailers.  Mid America and NCP hobbies have both been good to me.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 10:57 PM

I had, maybe still do, 2 pr. of the original RVM fronts. I sleeved them with 1/8" brass tubing so i could use them on 3/32" axles.

 

I've used both Mid America & NCP in the past without problems. I often thought both had direct lines into REHCO in Cincinnati. I haven't been too sure that NCP was still open even though they still have a web site.


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 12:21 PM

By the way, the Mid-America eBay store occasionally has "Limpach Fresh Cuts" for sale.

 

I asked Roger who is making them and he said they are NOS still in the original tubes and that they were "correctly stored" (don't know what that means).

 

I bought some just to have "new" looking tubes in my box (for a psych-out factor, perhaps) but I decided to use one of the sets (3/32 axle black foam rubber .800 dia as they came out of the tube) in a recent NASCAR 16D race here in CO this summer and won the race with 'em, so they are still supple and race-worthy! Whatever he meant by "correctly stored", I think he was right.

 

I think he has some sets in the original orange colored rubber for those who REALLY want to go retro and "complete" the car!

 

Keep it in the slot,

 

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 01:23 PM

Mike, nice build, even if the parts used (body and motor accessories) are not exactly matching the time period of the earlier chassis design...  :)

The "888" was truly the first volume-production "pro" hand-built chassis. Before Jan began production, everyone was stuck into either building a chassis or begging for a pro to sell him one... eer... just like... today for Retro Racing! :laugh2:

For old times sake, here is an original Limpach pile just our of its 1971 baggie...  :o  :shok: :heat:


 

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 02:57 PM

REHco has plenty of Limpach fresh cuts in stock.


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 03:42 PM

How does one order from REHco, Is there a list of goodies & #'s?

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 03:48 PM

. . . even if the parts used (body and motor accessories) are not exactly matching the time period of the earlier chassis design...  :)


 

 

I figure I'm good, plus or minus 18 months.

 

And I really shouldn't let you post in my thread until the book is done.


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 05:28 PM

reminds me of  the old days when I first started racing very nice work.



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Posted 15 September 2015 - 06:09 PM

I acquired my "888" in a pile of brass 'n wire chassis. Didn't know it was there till I rubbed some patina off the drop arm. It is hand engraved though. Not stamped like the one pictured here.

 

Plan on putting a Mura Green can in it. Have a pair of Elephant Ears and buss bars courtesy of Gator Bob.

 

Philippe, Would this be korrect?


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Posted 15 September 2015 - 08:01 PM

Sam, if you look on top of the droparm, just in front of the hinge on chassis' the left, you'll find your number. Mine is hand engraved too. Your buss bars & elephant ears would be period correct, as would Mike's heat sinks. The only difference would be that in New England, we ran them on Champion C-cans, but try to find one these days. :dash2:

 

Paul E., REHCO is a distributor in Cincinnati. They don't sell direct, so you'd have to get a local raceway order what you wanted. I have outdated REHCO parts sheets a former track owner gave me about 2000. PCH has a few REHCO items listed on their web site.


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 09:01 AM

Bill is correct.
Mike, sorry but you will have to wait a bit more, the schedule got interrupted once more and pushed things now beyond Xmas.
The motor's heat sinks are 36 months, and the Champion body you use 5 years, not 18 months apart from the original 888 production, but it matters little and the car came out nicely.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 01:29 PM

Here are the heat sinks, still available from Mid America:

 

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 07:46 PM

Mike, those are 40+ yrs. old. Genuine Russ Boyington items.


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