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Posted 14 September 2015 - 08:58 AM

Broke a wire twice this past weekend, cost me a podium... I want some leadwire shrinkwrap!
 
I looked around and found 1/8" in 2:1 and 3:1 shrink... some had glue lining, too??
 
What size and kind of heat shrink do you guys use?


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 09:15 AM

What are you using for leadwire, Charlie?

Usually before any big race I'll change out the leadwire just to be sure. That and I use either 18ga TQ leadwire or 18ga R/C wire. I dont think I've ever broken a leadwire in a race, but I've split a lot of leadwire clips in collisions.

As far as shrinkwrap, I have some I got from Del City electrical supply that I use. Covers down to 1/16" of an inch and just will go over 18ga leadwire.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 09:35 AM

Charlie, 

 

If you're using Kelly wire it's a dangerous thing! DZ and John Martin have found out how to use it. It requires some glue on the guide clips. The risk is not worth it to me!


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:02 AM

Ditto. You have to strip the wire short. Solder it all the way towards the front of the clip. The jacket that sits on the clip you have to glue to the clip. That will keep it from bending at the solder joint and breaking.
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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:25 AM

No Kelly wire - yet...

 

NASCAR oval - wire broke due to rear ending someone in my way, took a perfect 1 mm high guide width chunk off the front edge of Kelly Daytona body. Also got a cut braid later on with someone in my way, Parma cut-down held up! Then broke same wire again w 12 seconds left, solder joint came unbuttoned - repair under green by rookie was not good enough. Would of, should of, could of... I won't ever forget to use paste flux and tin wire before trying to hurry a solder joint in a race...

 

My slot car laboratory still needs shrinkwrap - what size, and kind of shrink tubing?   


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:34 AM

Charlie,

 

If less than $13 plus a little shipping doesn't scare you off, consider this assortment from Del City. You'll never have to buy any more and I'll bet you'll find lots of other uses for it besides slot cars.

 

I bought a similar though smaller assortment many years ago and still grab a chunk for things every so often.

 

Thin wall heat shrink assortment


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:37 AM

Oh! When oval racing at Heart of Dixie... all bets are off!!!


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:48 AM

Radio Shack has a small assortment for a small price if I recall correctly.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:52 AM

Yeah, if you can find a Radio Shack that's still open... most of the ones near me have shuttered.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 11:59 AM

What I do, Charlie, works great, saves ~2 grams, and is stiffer than most all leadwire setups but not too stiff. I've used it for years now.

 

Kelly leadwire 24 gauge... I solder the wire the most forward on the clip... I use about 1" of shrink wrap. It's 1/16" diameter bought at most any electronic store in 3' lengths $2.

 

I cut the diameter In half about 1/4" inch back, see pic.
I smear that 1" of leadwire at the end with a two-part epoxy. Then slide the shrink wrap with the half cut diameter end over the soldered joint all the way forward on the clip. Then I add a small dot of the epoxy to the soldered joint and mash it down until the epoxy sets up, and a smaller dot to the top of the shrinkwrap to hold it even more.

Then a hair dryer will work to shrink the wrap.

 

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 01:19 PM

Two grams - what? Heck ya - danger is worth it! For all the times I de-slot, I gotta be able to catch up. Hahahahaha
 
Many thanks for the lessons - you guys are a big reason my cars are fast.  :ph34r:  :tease:

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 01:29 PM

Who you blaming for your lousy driving? LOL...

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Posted 14 September 2015 - 01:40 PM

Hey, Cheater - send me that drivers manual since you don't need it anymore. LOL.

 

I need more lap time - forced to work, eat, and sleep... the tide has started to come in.


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Posted 14 September 2015 - 04:11 PM

Harbor Freight has a small variety pack of shrink wrap if you have a store nearby.
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Posted 28 September 2015 - 11:45 AM

2 down, 14 to go - how is this before I continue?

 

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 01:49 PM

It's a lot nicer than my epoxy job .did you put a small amount on top of the clip and tubing, It's needed. Also I put end that runs to the clip on top of loop ,not under and a little bigger loop also ..they look really great and will give a much faster return to center ,helping get rid of any fishtail exiting corners..IMO.less drift in the curves.. Not to mention weight reduction ..

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 02:52 PM

Thanks JC for this excellent training :good: ...yes, epoxied both inside the shrink tubing, and a drop on end so that the wire insulation just behind the solder joint is stuck to the clip, then the shrink covers it.  And now with wire to clip on top, the loop doesn't hit the sharp edge of the chassis where the wires run through.  Rookie Tip: use a very small amount of epoxy before sliding the shrink tubing down toward the clip, or you could epoxy the clip to the guide. :crazy:  

 

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 01:59 PM

Charlie epoxying the clip is not really that bad. It adds some strength.Even letting some get a little coverage on that thin outside edge of the guide next to the clip will strengthen that part as well. I added @ .50 thou to the outside edges from clip down to bottom of that weak portion.,( camera can't show it well.)Helping to maybe prevent it splitting.
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Posted 30 September 2015 - 03:24 PM

You're worried about 2 grams of weight in the leadwires, but have that big ol' chunk of lead on the closest pan? Killin me John LOL


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 04:06 PM

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 05:19 PM

Tempted to hog out the pan holes on my dragonslayer 6.  109 grams before going on a diet.  That is ok in the rules?  Seat belts coming soon!


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 12:09 PM

You're worried about 2 grams of weight in the leadwires, but have that big ol' chunk of lead on the closest pan? Killin me John LOL

That's lead tape LOL.
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IMO thus far any lead wire larger dia. Than the armature wire is overkill..especially with so little amp. Draw.
Seems the bigger hate of the small wire is to keep it from breaking on the guide..I now got that covered ,,with a much better (quicker ) return to center on the guide ,= a tighter car..no wiggles off the corners..Oh yeah 2 grams less.. With Lead tape ..LOL

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 12:29 PM

]Hog out all you want,,just be aware some tracks need more weight ..DZ cuts out everything then tunes with lead to different tracks as needed....works for him ...right. LOL
I'm trying to run a shorter car 3.75 . Shorter body ,=. 103 grams..I shortened this Arrow chassis. 1/4" off rear of pans .Then moved bracket forward 1/4" ..and cut the excess metals off the back ..It works great on the 3 tracks I've tryed it on. Love it..
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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:09 PM

Whatever works for you LOL Im spoiled not needing super light cars in Ohio LOL


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:38 PM

Heavy cars at "The Track " in Whitehouse Tn. Don't get on the podium. LOL.
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Posted 01 October 2015 - 02:01 PM

Even if a 108 gram car worked better at a certain track. I would still run the lighter lead wire. Eliminates top weight. Which some will say it won't make a difference. Maybe so. But with the less weight by using the light lead wire allows me to put weight where I fell is needed. Just my theory.
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Posted 01 October 2015 - 03:28 PM

There's multiple ways to build a winning slot car, what works in your building program might not work in mine, and vice-versa  :)

 

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 03:43 PM

I set mine up differently then, JC.

But you are correct, Cap.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:16 PM

It seemed to me that eliminating the solder cured most of the problems.  Geez, when was that?  Hmmm.  Oh, yeah.  About 1985.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 06:15 PM

Yep John but small wire needs 1/16" stuff..I get it for $2.00 for 3'
Same soldering Pete just Epoxy and the tubing for strength and stronger return to center..
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Posted 01 October 2015 - 06:32 PM

I want a short arrow with a jk short nn TI-22...but hogging will have to do for now  :laugh2:

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 07:33 PM

Where do u get lead tape?

Try a local golf shop.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 08:53 PM

Yep John but small wire needs 1/16" stuff..I get it for $2.00 for 3'
Same soldering Pete just Epoxy and the tubing for strength and stronger return to center..

John Noose and I use it on the small gauge as well as the heavier TQ just saying


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 09:05 AM

John Martin are you using the plug on connectors on the motor end of the lead wire rather than soldering to the motor post?

 

it seems like I saw a photo of one of your cars with them on it.


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Posted 02 October 2015 - 11:45 AM

John Martin are you using the plug on connectors on the motor end of the lead wire rather than soldering to the motor post?
 
it seems like I saw a photo of one of your cars with them on it.

I am Eddie. I keep them attached to the motors..I put a little (red) loctite at the joint.,it ain't coming loose.This way I don't get any heat on that little nub..that nylon insulator is something you don't want to get too hot..I doubt these connects weigh more than that much wire. Most of the heat will disapate hopefully before reaching the nylon.
I found one electronic store that sells all this stuff,,Wire, heat shrink tubing, and the connectors..(Bluff City Electronics)all together about 35 cents a car..LOL.
The lead tape.check the Internet. ( Golf Cow )..it's also used around Skylights, etc. my roll is 3/4" by 5 thou. By 3 lbs LOL.

Shirley Harrington was selling it,,,but if you come to the marreita race ,(Outlaw race),I'll bring you some
J John. It to me is a must with that smaller gauge slick 7 wire.
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Posted 02 October 2015 - 12:24 PM

Danny is this weight low enough ? I cut the standard thickness lead a little larger than needed and actually hammered it in flat to the bottom of the chassis ,then cut off the excess with a exacto knife,,and ran a bead of super glue around the piece..With lead tape on top..pretty tight fit because of the hammer job..
Of course it's flat at bottom and techs..

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 04:42 PM

Having the same broken lead problem after back racing again I dug some out of my auto repair supplies. What I have pictured was purchased at an auto parts store, any should have it.

  As for using it, cut at 3/4" to 1", slip over wire, slide till clip stops it and use the heat gun. Don't understand the need for any kind glue. I guess I'm just a simple kind of guy.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:07 PM

Looks good Glenn..But the lead wire I run is only 24 gauge yours is much thicker..the epoxy is required as well as the tubing or it will break at the clips..Again reason I run it ,,@ 2 grams lighter..and return to center is much ,,much better..
Bluff City Electronics,,has wire,,$15 for 100' and 3' lengths of heat shrink tubing 1/16" about $2.50.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:29 PM

Danny is this weight low enough ? I cut the standard thickness lead a little larger than needed and actually hammered it in flat to the bottom of the chassis ,then cut off the excess with a exacto knife,,and ran a bead of super glue around the piece..With lead tape on top..pretty tight fit because of the hammer job..
Of course it's flat at bottom and techs..

Looks good, JC.
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Posted 15 October 2015 - 06:56 AM

Ran this wire setup in NASCAR 3 times now, no issues whatsoever!   Next step is to acquire quick connectors and make them stick.


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:44 AM

Ran this wire setup in NASCAR 3 times now, no issues whatsoever!   Next step is to acquire quick connectors and make them stick.

just found out the clips can be obtained at Advance auto parts a pack of 10 is about $6 they do have a insulator on the end that can easily be removed..they have gold plating on them..very pretty..
Red loctite works great to keep them on..definetly need something to keep them on,because of unforeseen quick stops ,LOL.
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Posted 16 October 2015 - 10:55 AM

Thanks JC!  I'll stop today on the way to the track - The Fastest Hillclimb in the South is now ready...


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:00 AM

JC, do you know the size of the clip? Does it actually fit, or do you have to squeeze with pliers to make them tight?


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:30 AM

Hi Jim, JC said to use loctite, or tack solder them so they don't come off in a hit.  He also said to adjust them with pliers if needed.  The ones I got from Advance were really tight on a motor that already had solder on the tab...

 

Hey JC - the gold plated ones are heavy LOL


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 12:36 PM

Wow...  you guys spend WAY too much time attaching your lead wires!   :D    If you solder them correctly, don't use acid flux, and change them every couple of races, there's no way you should be losing lead wires...

 

If you are cutting them because you slammed into someone in your lane, the issue isn't with your lead wires!  I would cringe if I saw all of that heat shrink and stuff going on, on the front of any of our cars...

 

Just my .02.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:11 PM

Charlie you may not have removed that gold sleeve ?
Mike you cannot run little light weight lead wires as I do without the heat shrink tubing..and I've found out over years of use epoxy under and over the tubing is the best and most simple way to stiffen the return to center and keep from breaking. Also like I said helps with splitting the top off your guide as described earlier. Post 18 .
They've worked for me ..LOL.
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Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:57 AM

Mike,

The main reason I'm considering the clips on the motor is to avoid touching a soldering iron to the can. Too much heat can cause everything from loose magnets to magnetic-field loss. I'm sure there are other reasons, too, but that's enough for me.

 

I will admit to having used non-acid flux on the motor tabs in the past to help ensure they accept solder.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 10:32 AM

Right Jim just look at that little nylon slit where the flat nub goes thru the can,,if that gets hot enough it'll loose some tension as the pressure the brush is putting on the com is transferred to that little slit..I think the clips let the heat mostly disapate ,so I permently loctite a clip to the nub and solder my wire quickly to top of of the clip. Possibly get a little heat sink with this also?LOL
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