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#26 Metalflake King

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 04:44 PM

Joe and Kurt are both top ranked drivers.  I feel there is still more chassis tuning to be done.  There is so much horsepower in those motors that I can see choke helping.   


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Posted 03 November 2015 - 09:31 PM

Joe and Kurt are both top ranked drivers.  I feel there is still more chassis tuning to be done.  There is so much horsepower in those motors that I can see choke helping.


We found the motors had too much torque at the low end that they were almost impossible to control on our short tracks with tight turns. Instead we are using ProSlot balanced and sealed 16ds

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 12:45 PM

Not for the faint of heart, the Challenge class is back up and running.  Almost too fast for our own good the four of us tried to wrangle these beasts in for a win.  With some carnage and lots of laughs, here is this weeks results...

 

1  Joe Emm                    Ferrari Enzo

2  Max Mohring              Porsche 956

3  Kurt Mansfield            Orange Toyota

4  Charlie Schlottfeld      Ferrari Enzo  

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 08:30 AM

These cars are a handfull white knuckle driving the whole time it was fun! kurt dont look so miserable


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"Success is the best Revenge".... - someone smart.

 

C.O.W. retro chassis Everyone that runs one knows Checkers or Wreckers

 

 


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Posted 19 December 2015 - 03:05 PM

Cool stuff. Thanks for giving the B&E Slotsport products a try.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 05:43 PM

Brian, the B&E chassis and products are top notch !!! The chassis' are strong and tunable with excellent precision manufacturing.

Here are a few pictures of Kurt Mansfield's latest build.  I'm not sure of the body's year or make but the decal and detail work toped off with automotive clear coat make it a beautiful piece to look at.   

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 12:52 PM

That is a BMW z somethin or other


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 01:05 PM

Appears 1/24 hard body racing is bit by bit increasing across the the land.

 

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Remember folks, traffic lights timed for 35 MPH, are also timed for 70!

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 01:35 PM

I agree, may never top flexi or even retro but still an important segment in our hobby.

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 02:37 PM

 Am enjoying seeing how others are innovating to produce various and  new chassis designs to make hard body cars work well. Good to also see various

racing programs here and there well attended.

 

May I offer a suggstion upon seeing the fractured front end of the Kenwood Porsche 962. I strengthen all my hard bodies by coating the entire inside body

with copious amounts of Devcon Plastic Welder spread on strips and squares of nylon window screen turning a plastic body into a reinforced fiberglass like

object. We at Pelican park build and assemble our cars using Plastic Wleder. Allows us to successfully repair cars that can last years.

 

Devcon Plastic Welder, not an epoxy but a methyl methacrylate compound, is a strong structural adhesive formulated for bonding similar and dissimilar

materials as well as unprepared metals. Resists water,weathering, high humidity and temperature variations.  Minimal surface preparation is required and

once cured, the adhesive can be drilled, sanded and painted. Bonds hard plastic, styrene, PVC, acrylic, ceramic, concrete, fiberglass, metal, vinyl, and

wood with a tensile strength of 3500 PSI. Like putty though much harder I've used gobs of it laid around fender wells to make  tough fender flares and to

shape other body parts.

 

My latest hard  body  project: Historic Racing miniatures 1/24 Corvette GS Roadster, a model of  Chassis 001 as raced at Sebring, 1966. (only 5 GS's were

manufactured). Soldered custom brass chassis with bolt on (4X40 bolts & nuts) body mounts. Referencing the above uses of Plastc Welder, the kits provide

clear headlight covers I've deemed too fragile for racing, so with bits of plastic and Plastic Welder shaped more solid headlamp fixtures like the chassis 002

that George  Wintersteen raced at Sebring in 1965.

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 04:37 PM

Nice job Todd. BTW Plastic welder is great!

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 04:54 PM

Hardbody is alive and kicking.  Todd thanks for your method of body prep and repair, I have never used that product before but willing to try almost anything.  For assembly and repair I use a single layer of facial tissue and a good quality thin CA.  The glue saturates the tissue and it then bonds to the inside laying over the seam.  It works much like laying fiberglass.  Its strong, rigid and light weight.  I try to keep things as light as possible.  The Kenwood Porsche suffered its fate from numerous full throttle de-slots entering the high banked turn at the end of the straightaway.  A price to pay trying to push the car way faster than it should probably be going, LOL!  That's a nicely done Corvette, you guys at Pelican Park have some nice rides. 


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 05:18 PM

Thanks, Rich, for the compliment. Am hoping you may do a Saturday race at your track. I've built over 20 large diameter (Pro-Traacks) cars that fit in a number of different classes.

 

Max, intersting to read how you do your bodies. I'll pass on your method to  PPS members some of whom find Plastic Welder's oder a put off. Are others in your racing circles beefing up their hard bodies similarly? I'm not too concerned with body weight as my sturdy body/chassis combos generally weigh in about 8.5oz; The 3 classes of  USAC &NASCAR: 1960's era, Vingage and Modern, weigh in between 9.25 to almost 10 oz, though my open wheel cars weigh about 7.8. On our twisty, relatively short 68 foot track handling is paramount, and at  77 weight compenates for age.


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 05:40 PM

Plagued by the cheap price and ease of assembly, the Hardbody Challenge class is infested with Enzo bodies!  You don't feel as bad when they explode with only an hour or so into a body :bomb:.  This week Carl Paterson has joined the ranks of the challenge class with his Blue Enzo.  Kurt Mansfield was the only one to stand out.  It looked like a gang of Ferrari's chasing the BMW.

Here is this weeks results...

 

1  Charles Schlottfeld          Red Enzo

2  Max Mohring                   Yellow Enzo

3  Kurt Mansfield                 BMW

4  Carl Paterson                  Blue Enzo

                    All cars using the B&E steel chassis

 

 

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 05:59 PM

Todd most of us use the tissue and CA method especially during initial assembly of multi part bodies.  Its super strong when done properly.  The only downside to this is that it is only strong when gluing to plastic, so previous material must be removed for repairs.  We use shoe goo also but its not as rigid and heavier.  For the regular Hardbody class using the HR chassis the cars weigh in around 5.8 oz. and the Hardbody Challenge cars are around 6.2 oz.  I'm not sure of track length but its flat with the exception of the hairpin at the end of the straight.

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 11:13 PM

I wonder if the material they use in building model airplanes would work in slot car bodies?

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Posted 22 December 2015 - 11:36 PM

What material would that be ???


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Posted 22 December 2015 - 11:43 PM

It's fiberglass tape and CA


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 01:05 AM

Geez, Dennis... life is too short to watch the world's most boring video, which was NOT about CA, but rather epoxy resin.

 

I have used carbon fiber with epoxy and also with Devon Plastic Welder®.  Perhaps I should try it with CA.  

I don't know.  :wacko2:      (thanks anyway :D )


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:20 AM

I take max's approach and keep it light. lighter and light and keep getting lighter. a fast car is a light car! little more energetic to drive but thats neither here nor there. as for the bodies i will do the facial tissue and when its broken i just toss it. money grows on trees since its printed on paper and i have to wrok monday anyway...... HOWEVER im taking a "fun" approach with my next few builds. Kurt thinks i have lost it cause generally i do nothing without a purpose.... i might still have that seagrams 7 in my system... max...... LMAO glad to see carl up to speed with the challenge car as well!

 

you west coast guys build amazing stuff let me tell you you were my inspiration to kick the hampsters over here to race em!


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:32 AM

Plagued by the cheap price and ease of assembly, the Hardbody Challenge class is infested with Enzo bodies!  You don't feel as bad when they explode with only an hour or so into a body :bomb:.  This week Carl Paterson has joined the ranks of the challenge class with his Blue Enzo.  Kurt Mansfield was the only one to stand out.  It looked like a gang of Ferrari's chasing the BMW.....


Ahh yes. Even though our GT1/Group C class calls cars from guess what GT1/Group C era, we allow the Enzo because it is CHEAP and the snaptite version has few parts (read fewer bonds). They do work well. I have used Plastic Welder as Todd has suggested and it works quite well. It is also great for repairs. I am currently working on three 962s that has sustained major body damage over the years and am using Plastic Welder in the inside and outside. It is a bit more difficult to sand than most fillers but a little patience pays off.

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:05 AM

Joe you crack me up !!!  Your going to have to help Kurt with another body for his Challenge car, he was too upset sustaining damage on his new body this past weekend.


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:25 PM

Sorry about the video, i grabbed it without watching it.

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:24 PM

after yesterday's Hardbody race i purchased all of the parts needed to complete my first Challenge car. So as soon as Max builds the car (thanks Max!!) i'll be racing with you guys. Then i plan to build one with the ProTrack aluminum chassis for comparison. Who knows, it might be competitive....... 


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 08:44 PM

Always good to have something to compare with to make sure you're on the right track so to speak

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