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[DPmax]

Mike, have you tried running at BPR without cleaning the track first and running on the leftover rubber/glue from the Thursday LMP races?

That's what SCRRA often does for their Saturday flat track race and it works very well.

I think this is done on many Sundays for the Hard Body races as well.

 

Try to come in on a Sunday after the SCRRA flat track race (second Saturday) and see what the track feels like.

 

BTW, tonight was a bit of a light turnout so we didn't put down a lot of rubber.

[bbr]

I have tested rubber and urethane tires on a worn sprayed glue track. The tires works alright for a few laps until the tires gets coated with glue and deposited foam rubber, and then it doesn’t work very well.

 

Foam rubber likes a glued track.

 

Solid rubber likes rubber laid on a cleaned track.

 

Urethane likes urethane laid on a cleaned track.

 

Silicone likes a cleaned track.

 

These are my findings so far 

[Dennis David]

Your observations are correct.

SC-2009N ProComp-3 for 3/32" Axle 20.5x11mm on 15mm wheel

Mounted sponge tires that wil work great on a track with light spray glue. Trust me, I know what I am talking about here. No need to clean the track but evening out spray glue may be desired.

Also comes in ProComp-2 and ProComp-4. Accepts standard Slot.It inserts.

[bbr]

A couple of Gt class cars I've assembled. The Gt40 I have tested and it is running a little faster than a nsr classic. The 935 has a different magnet setup, a PM gold, about 25% less downforce but maybe more speed. Will have to see how she will go. My guess is that the Gt40 will be faster, but we will see.

The race at Big Lou's is this coming Sunday, so we will find out. I will race one and loan the other car out. I will be teching for magnet gauss and car weight, so be sure you are within the specs.

[Craig]

Hey Mike,

 

Since this is at a retail location I'm assuming there will be entry fees for the racing this weekend. 

 

Do you know what those fees are going to be?

[bbr]

I believe it is $5 per race.
Lou has a track because he likes to race, I don't think he's making money on the racing. His real business is selling collectable toys.

[eshorer]

Looking forward to the races tomorrow after I visit the Queen's English Brit Car Show in Van Nuys in the morning. Big Lou's is a fun LARGE plastic track. I wonder who else will make the trek.

Eddie

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Race 2 at Big Lou's

GT race: 1st Eddie, 2nd Kevin, 3rd Mike

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Gr C race: 1st Eddie, 2nd Lee, 3rd Craig

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GT race cars:

 

 

Eddie had a car that was fast in every lane and motored away into first.

A close fight between Kevin and Mike with Kevin about 1/3 of a lap ahead at the finish.

Chris kept the top three honest, but could not make the podium.

 

Podium cars:

 

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Group C race cars:

 

The race developed into a contest between Lee and Eddie. With Lee putting down fast and faster laps and Eddie refusing to fall off the track. In the end, because of the round robin format, Lee laid down a large lap total for Eddie to beat. Eddie, determine as ever, cranked off the laps and finished with 1/2 a lap more than Lee, Craig rounded off the podium with a good run.

[bbr]

OAS points race:

 

 

 

Plans for the next races:

 

Looks like a possible race in June at a home track in the Pasadena area. Group C as always and an IROC class.

 

Buena Park Raceway race in July in the planning stages. Group C as always and also an IROC race with modern Carrera F1s or maybe Slot.it GT40s. Tires will Scale Auto Pro Comp 3 for Group C. I will provide these tires for the race on race day, but you can also get your own if you want to prep them ahead of time.

 

Rafael's track is being rebuilt. Looks like it will larger, he is planning the footprint it to be 34 feet long. He wants to schedule his race in October.

 

Stay tune, I will post details as they become solid.

 

A rules change: Group C tires, you can run any urethane or rubber tires.

[bbr]

The next race will be June 12th at Christophe's track. His track is a four lane routed track that was built by Bob Scott. A figure 8 configuration - hillclimb. I was just there today and it is fun track to run on.

We will be running as usual Group C and IROC cars of Christophe choosing.

I'm excited about this event, the track is cool. Please PM me if you would like to attend, I will provide you with the details.

[eshorer]

Mike, what tires work well at Christophe's track ?

I race at Christophe's with our Farrout club, and can tell you for the Slot.it group C we use Ortmann's, glued, trued, and sanded with the finest sandpaper you can get (2000 grit will do). They are available at Electric Dreams. Other tires may work better, but we haven't tried them. For the IROC class, no need to worry. They'll be set up.

Eddie

[Dennis David]

Ortmann has a million tires, what stock number?

[eshorer]

Ortmann has a million tires, what stock number?

Why? You coming down?      I don't know the stock number.  A couple of Farrout members have taken orders and bought them in bulk for the three classes we use 'em on: Slot.it Group C, Fly 60s/70s, and SCX F1.  To get the specific tires I order online from Electric Dreams. Here's a very useful link that has a chart to find the right tires: http://www.electricd...re-charts-2014/

Eddie

[Dennis David]

Ortmann ORT51A   I'll only come down if you allow me to win. LOL  Ed you need to come up here so I can show you how to run a Slot.it on a flat track. (SCR) ;-)  I'm surprised nobody raced a Slot.it Porsche GT1 EVO 98, or the Lancia LC2 for that matter. What Voltage do you guys run on Sunday? The ProComp 3 should work well on a lightly spray glued track. Don't really need to prep them except to round the edges. The Ortmanns you'll need to prep. I'm glad you guys got rid of the silly spoilers.

 

 

[bbr]

Rubber tires for Group C will also be allowed (recent rules change).

Christophe's track!

I like the climb to the top, like the run at Monaco to casino

[bbr]

Dennis,
Though it kinda fun and casual, there are racers that likes to win here. No easy task to win, it's a tough crowd.

For myself, I like making the cars run fast. But do not have the expertise in the driving like some of these guys!
On a good day I may make the podium, but it is more the car than me.

What I really enjoy is the racing event. Thus my efforts to arrange these events.

[eshorer]

Ortmann ORT51A   I'll only come down if you allow me to win. LOL  Ed you need to come up here so I can show you how to run a Slot.it on a flat track. (SCR) ;-)  I'm surprised nobody raced a Slot.it Porsche GT1 EVO 98, or the Lancia LC2 for that matter. What Voltage do you guys run on Sunday? The ProComp 3 should work well on a lightly spray glued track. Don't really need to prep them except to round the edges. The Ortmanns you'll need to prep. I'm glad you guys got rid of the silly spoilers.

 

 

I'd let you win, but I know Christophe wouldn't! We'll run the Slot.its at 10v. He's probably going to use Ninco 50s/60s roadsters (NC1 or NC8) for the IROC at 12 or 13v.  The home track guys here tend to feel like magnets are for refrigerators, and glue is for horses. We'd rather prep the tires than the track, and they really do hook up surprisingly well. 

I'll come up for a driving lesson soon enough. 

Eddie

[Dennis David]

I love the Ninco Clasics. I wish they made more of them. Yes the spray glue is really only for BPR. Magnets increase the speed = more damage.

[Craig]

Be sure to give us an address for the folks that have never been there.

[eshorer]

Be sure to give us an address for the folks that have never been there.

 

Mike and I can get the address to people via PM or email. We just don't want to post home addresses in a public forum. I'll get it to you, Craig.

 

Eddie

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For Christophe's race, we will be using his house controllers. They are Professor Motors and I have been told they work well with the Group Cs.

Also, I have just gotten the Pro Comp 3 for the BPR race in July