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#1 dc-65x

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 07:00 PM

Two years, four months, and six days from now I plan on retiring (but who's counting :D ). Money is going to be tight for sure so I've decided to do my part now and buy at least one neato scratchbuilding tool per month while I can. This will also help pull our "sluggish" economy out of the current "slowdown". :unsure:

Last month I got a Hudy comm lathe that most are familiar with:

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This month I decided to upgrade my 20-year-old workhorse Dremel tool:

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It still works but the sheath is all cracked and the two-wrench collet change system is a pain to use. There is also a ton of run-out in it. So after snooping around on woodworking and jewelry making forums I decided on a medium duty unit. If my cheapo Dremel has served me well for 20 years this new job should do me fine. It's a:

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Here are the goodies:

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I also bought the adjustable motor hanger and handpiece holder. It's all mounted to the workbench and I'm pretty happy with it:

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I still need to trim the wire ties once I'm happy with the motor height adjustment. I also bought the optional $14 super flexible neoprene sheath for the flex shaft. This is probably the only time you'll want a limp shaft :shok: but believe me it makes controlling the hand piece a dream ;) . There must be a dozen different style quick change handpieces available too.

Here's where I bought it:

Otto Frei

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Oh no, more bad news in the stock market. I'd better buy something else to help out! Bush doesn't have to worry about me not spending my credit from the stimulus package.

Where's the check? I need a mini lathe :) .

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 07:58 PM

Buy that lathe Rick and the cost for all its tooling will take care of your other 27 months of purchases. :)

You won't go wrong with a Sherline but there are some other nice mini lathes out there.

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 09:15 PM

That is one neato tool kit. Much better than any Dremels I've seen. It just might not be very portable though.

You might think about spending your money inside the city though so they won't have to file for bankruptcy. (Or are we too late?)

Nice comm lathe, too. I love mine and you will love yours. You did get the diamond bit, didn't you?
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 10:12 PM

No problem Bill, the government is going to buy my lathe :rolleyes: :) .

Hey, Scott, the Foredom isn't really portable. That gives me an excuse to by another Dremel for portability! The Hudy has a diamond bit and adjustable axial support. It was purchased from Dave at:

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He also did an expert setup of the tool height and the axial support so the comm is cut to a true cylinder not a cone :) . Thanks, Dave!

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 01:16 AM

Sherline all the way for mini lathes, and mills for that matter, way better precision and accuracy than the Chinese ones, and the smaller capacity of the Sherline is NOT an issue for ANY slot car work, and even bigger stuff, too.

Sherline has by far a better and bigger range of accessories and extra bits and pieces.
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 01:32 PM

Bush doesn't have to worry about me not spending my credit from the stimulus package.

I checked my mailbox today, and still no stimulus package. :angry: :laugh2:
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:00 PM

Try checking on a day when they deliver mail! :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

I got mail yesterday after digging my mailbox out of the snow. That was my stimulus package. ;)

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:08 PM

:laugh2: Sir Bill, people do check their mail on Sundays, indeed... I learned that as a PI... :laugh2:

I already spent it... where is it... ????? :angry: :D I'm never gonna retire, I'll just quit and push a shopping cart down the boulevard, lubricating the wheels with Liquid Bearings. :laugh2:
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:43 AM

Pablo,

OK, I'm gonna let you on my secret for retirement, three little words...

"Paper or plastic?"
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 03:37 PM

Joe,

When was the last time you were in a grocery store? "Paper or plastic" went out the door years ago. Now it's "Plastic okay?", providing they ask anything. :laugh2: :laugh2:

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:11 PM

Sorry, but in California now, it is bring your own.
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:19 PM

Here are a few others:

"Do you want cheese on the burger?"

"Would you like a cart ,sir?"

I plan on being an ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED slot car fabricator who no longer has to work for the man...

WEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:26 PM

A happy retirement requires some of the following:

Harbor Freight 9 x 20 lathe
Atlas 12 x 36 lathe
Harbor Freight mill drill
20-ton hydraulic press
1-1/2 ton hand press
24 x 42 sandblaster
48" belt sander
Sears 24 belt X 6 disc sander
Valve grinder
Soldering irons from 30 watt to 175 watt
Oxy-acetylene torches
Prestolite torch
Pedestal grinder
Every hand tool known to mankind
digital readouts for all the above for the arithmetic-challenged, LOL
Two work shops, one in the basement, one in the garage
AND AND LOTS of lights! And a part-time job driving a truck for a local machine job shop...
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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:40 PM

Sounds good, Rick, except the track is in the basement and the shop is in the garage. :)

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 01:45 AM

A happy retirement requires some of the following...

You forgot the most important thing: TUNES, MAN!

A good Pioneer or JVC stereo and turntable plus eight-track are a FREAKING MUST!

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 01:52 AM

Rick Bennardo - What do you do with the valve grinder besides grind valves?

Jairus - What kind of stereo you runnin'? You know, stereo, turntable, speakers, etc.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 02:11 AM

Well, it isn't the greatest system... but for the moment, I like it!

Marantz 2238 tuner
JVC LF41 turntable with diamond needle.
Pioneer eight-track
Sony TC758 reel to reel
JVC DKA22 tape deck with noise suppression
Fisher 60-disc CD player

:)

Oh yes, the speakers are big freaking *** JVC items that I have not managed to bust yet... but the neighbors do sorely complain...
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 02:16 AM

All I can say is, there's NUTHIN' better than a vintage Marantz! I should post a pic of mine. I did a refurb of it and replaced ALL the lamps with high grade LEDs. It rocks! ;) :yes: :music:

By the way, vintage is NEW now and your stuff is excellent!

Now we gotta talk Rick into a Marantz!
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 10:02 AM

Sony TC758 reel to reel

Mine's a TC788. ;)
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 10:09 AM

I'm not too worried about tunes just now. It's interesting (funny? odd? weird?) that a diehard vintage slot car nut like me likes NEW everything else. I stopped listening to classic rock because how many times do I want to hear the same songs? I still like them but for the last several years I've been listening to the "Bay-a-reaha's" alternative rock station, Live 105. When I take what's left of my Kalifornia home equity and buy a little dump somewhere where the dirt's cheap, I'm thinking they won't have a big city alternative radio station.

When I sold my Corvette I didn't buy a classic car. I love them but I don't want to have to spend the time to maintain one. I also like cruise control, power windows, locks, seats, air conditioning, add nauseam AND reliability. I love the 1965-6 Shelby GT350 but a good one is six figures now. So I'm building a modern version.

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It has all the V8 sounds and power with all the modern conveniences and retro looks.

Have you seen the Mustang TV commercial with the red GT drifting sideways past a couple of traffic cops that give the driver a thumbs up? I've done mini version of that a couple of times (without the cops!) so live axles are still good for something! Enough babbling, onward to tools.

So I think I'll buy one of these with the variable speed foot control:

MicroLux 5" Disk Sander

I have a POS. combination 6" belt - 6" disc sander that is so out of balance it wants to walk off the table every time I turn it on. I want a nice little smooth-running machine.

Does anyone have any other recommendations for a small disc sander?

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 11:07 AM

Hey, Rick.

I saw a Dremel Stylus and drill/driver (both cordless) at Lowe's for around 100 bucks. Two tools for a really low price. I bought my Stylus last year for about 69 bucks; if I knew of this deal, I would have gotten that instead. :unsure: Damn!
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 11:29 AM

Thanks, Russ. I'll check it out :) .

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 12:59 AM

Check out THIS belt/disc sander at Grizzly.
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 01:02 AM

And I am also looking at THIS...
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Posted 06 March 2008 - 10:16 AM

Hi Scott,

I have a Delta band saw similar to the one you linked to. It's a keeper. I also have a combo disc-belt sander like your other link shows. I'm going to replace it with the MicroLux 5" Disk Sander with the variable speed foot control. I'm a great believer in the foot controls and have my drill motor and little Dremel hooked up to one.

The cheapo sander I have now is so out of balance it wants to walk off the table. I never use the belt so it wastes a lot of space. I'm only using the sander for very small things like putting a radius in a bat pan or grinding a chamfer in C-can magnets for clips...

The MicroLux is ordered and when it gets here I'll test it out and show some pictures of it in action. :)

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 12:11 AM

Foot controls would be awesome.

I like the belt when put in a vertical position with the table at 90 degrees, best of both worlds.

The band saw is a little too much machine for me at the moment.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 12:15 AM

Yup, I agree Rick. A Delta 14" bandsaw and a Sears scroll saw help for a lot of things... Do you have the one with the gear box, for wood and metal?
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 09:51 AM

That disc sander looks about perfect for this stuff, Rick, and if it's smooth and torquey... all the better. A square could be run from the outside of the table (perpendicular to the disc face) also as another fence and would be great for "easing up to the cut line" for squaring stuff (especially for those who don't have a cutoff saw like me). Got me thinking here... increased precision and decreased wear and tear on my fingertips. :)
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 09:54 AM

Sanding off fingerprints is a requirement for anyone in Jersey. Thus, manual sanding is a necessity to comply with this. :D

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:00 AM

:) Joe... I'm a carpenter. What's left of my fingertips has long since been either scarred-over or burnt smooth. Hmmm... might open up some job possibilities!
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 01:28 PM

Rick,

You've got me thinking that my single speed band saw may be for wood... that's-a-nogood. I bought it used with the belt-disc sander combo that I'm getting rid of. I think I'll look into a new band saw, too. I see the Delta BS100 Shopmaster Benchtop band saw all over the place when I Google benchtop band saws. Delta said they discontinued it in 2006 so I don't know if I should get one of those.

Micro Mark has this:

VARIABLE SPEED BAND SAW

But I'll keep looking...

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 09:26 PM

Rick, some of the best bandsaw bands in the US are made by Blackstone Industries in Bethel, CT. They're the same people who made your Foredom tool. :)

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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:00 PM

The new Harbor Freight bandsaws are knock offs of the Delta/Rockwell except no gear box to make them go both ways. You can jackshaft one and make it into metal cutting, mine has a 20 to 1 gearbox that you flip a lever and its direct drive for wood.

You could also try a treadmill motor and variable speed it. I have seen lots of discarded treadmills go cheap with all the electronics to set them up.

Compare a Harbor Freight ($289) price to a Rockwell ($1300) price, it's well worth some tinkering to make it run 110-120 feet per minute for metal.

I use Sterret blades and make them to length with silver solder, haven't broken one in 20 years. Can show you how to make the fixture and what to get............premade blades are legal thievery.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 10:07 PM

Well, it isn't the greatest system... but for the moment, I like it!

Marantz 2238 tuner
JVC LF41 turntable with diamond needle.
Pioneer eight-track
Sony TC758 reel to reel
JVC DKA22 tape deck with noise suppression
Fisher 60-disc CD player

:)

Oh yes, the speakers are big freaking *** JVC items that I have not managed to bust yet... but the neighbors do sorely complain...


LOL< Jairus that is the kick a$$ system from 1075, damn! Now where did I pack the Technics turntable and reel to reel player. :laugh2: :laugh2:
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 11:58 PM

The new Harbor Freight bandsaws are knock offs of the Delta/Rockwell except no gear box to make them go both ways. You can jackshaft one and make it into metal cutting, mine has a 20 to 1 gearbox that you flip a lever and its direct drive for wood.

You could also try a treadmill motor and variable speed it. I have seen lost of discarded treadmills go cheap with all the electronics to set them up.

Compare a Harbor Frieght($289) price to a Rockwell($1300) price, its well worth some tinkering to make it run 110-120 feet per minute for metal.

I use Sterret blades and make them to length with silver solder, haven't broken one in 20 years. Can show you how to make the fixture and what to get............premade blades are legal theivery.

How about this sander

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 09:43 PM

"That's not a torch"

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"This is a torch!"

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Sorry for my Crocodile Dundee impression :rolleyes: . Just kidding :) . This torch is not for chassis soldering but for a special slot car project I hope to start soon. I'll be getting a Mini torch too ;) . I'm sure someone has a mega torch I'll be seeing soon :D .

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 12:41 AM

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Yep, that's the one I bought. It works great too. Just put the belt completely vertical and then take the table off the disc and put it on the belt and there you go.

I'm still looking for a band saw for not too much money. What are the requirements to make it cut the brass we use??
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Posted 13 March 2008 - 09:40 AM

Yep, that's the one I bought. It works great too. Just put the belt completely vertical and then take the table off the disc and put it on the belt and there you go.

I'm still looking for a band saw for not too much money. What are the requirements to make it cut the brass we use??



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Posted 13 March 2008 - 08:05 PM

I replaced the combo belt-disc sander with a small disc sander from Micro Mark. It is SMALL and can be stored in a drawer or on a shelf and set on the work bench when I need it:

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I also got the Foredom variable speed foot control. It's almost as big as the sander :shok: . Here is the sander next to a 1/24 slot car for a size comparison:

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It works great to put the Philippe angle and radius on pans:

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It runs nice and SMOOTH and I can vari the speed to "REALLY SLOW" for great control.

Me Likie :D .

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Posted 13 March 2008 - 08:12 PM

Very nice, and I like the idea of the variable foot control.

Would that work for a cheapo band saw too?? MMMM...

Maybe I should just get me a scroll saw with a pretty good size table so I can add my own fence. Might be the way to go.
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Posted 24 May 2008 - 07:38 PM

Well this thread is back from a 2 month pause. In March my employer informed me and 3500 others that there would be a reduction in force of 535 people. Last Thursday the axe fell but I survived. The co-worker I shared an office with did not. But I'm back and in the spending mode and while I research what type of lathe to buy I just had to buy something :unsure: ! So stand back and behold what $30 can get you :shok: :

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That's right folks your Sears stock will be going up for sure since I bought this baby :blink: . Note that I purchased a well known top brand, "Euro-Pro" :blink: :laugh2: . At least I won't be stinking up the kitchen baking wrinkle paint or curing epoxy in our oven ;) . Here she is unpackaged and ready to go. Jake and Elwood are looking on approvingly:

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And now to bake that wrinkle painted C-can.....wait a minute. There's a sticker in 53 different languages that says you should fire it up on high heat for 15 minutes as it may smoke a little at first. OK, high heat and........GOOD GRIEF! I'll say it's smoking......open the garage doors......start up a fan..........is this thing full of fish oil or what :shok: . I hope the fire department doesn't show up :blink: .

After the smoke cleared I put in a freshly painted C-can. I used Krylon wrinkle black and put it in the oven at 175 degrees and cranked the timer to 1 hour:

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Now we wait for the Euro-Pro timer to go ding :)

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Posted 24 May 2008 - 09:11 PM

Love it :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
I did that with an exhaust manifold in the kitchen, man it stunk... :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Happy you did not get laid off, been there done that. :shok: :shok: :shok:

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 10:46 AM

I have an update on this Foredom grinder package:

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The hand piece included is nice in that it uses a small drill chuck that will grab on to any size gizzmo up to 5/32" diameter. But, the sucker is too FAT :shok: :unsure: so I bought this No. 28 Handpiece, "A slender, comfortable design with tapered grip and pre-lubricated ball bearings that do not require lubrication. Comes with 3/32" and 1/8" collets, and pin and chuck wrench for changing collets and accessories":

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MUCHO BETTER :)

I also spent all my "Bush Bucks" and then some on something that will use these little beauties:

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Where's that darn FedEx truck? :unsure: :D

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 04:21 PM

I also got the Foredom variable speed foot control. It's almost as big as the sander :shok: . Here is the sander next to a 1/24 slot car for a size comparison:

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Heck, Tell us more about the car...

Don't forget good eye protection...

And just ask Mike Steube what the valve grinder is for...
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 04:32 PM

I am totally out tooled... I need to get tooled up.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 05:05 PM

Hey Tony, it's definitely "Tool Time" here at Captain Rick's... more power! Arr Arr Arr :) .

Hi Bob,

The Dynamic Lola pictured was built from this Chris Chan article in a 1968 Model Car and Track magazine:

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 03:45 PM

I bought this small Sherline lathe with my "Bush Bucks" a while back. It's another "slot car sized" tool that fit's in my little 10' X 14' den. It's very light weight and I mounted it to a piece of white shelving from our home center. It sits in a chip pan (cookie sheet!) on 4 rubber isolator feet (the 1/24 scale GP car is for a size reference):

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It runs very smoothly with a variable speed motor:

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The hand wheels are able to be "zero'd":

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I bought another brand of quick change tool post and tool holders that is OK but not great. I might have to cough of the extra $ for the Sherline stuff:

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The collets are really nice. I need to get the full set. Here I'm facing off one of our Aguirre front wheels. They came in quite rough from our vendor:

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I could do a nice light "fuzz" cut to clean up the wheel. Here are the chips:

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The recut wheel is on the right:

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Micro-Mark's Summer Sale is on :) . The disc sander and band saw should be here soon :D .

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 04:16 PM

Some really cool tools, Rick. Love that red slot car, too. If you retire and later decide to come out of retirement you could become a dentist with that Foredom tool set. ;)
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 04:30 PM

Hi Tom,

That Foredom grinder with the small hand piece is really nice :wub: . It makes my old Dremel seem so... last century :D .

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 05:28 PM

Hey, we ARE from the last century! :laugh2:





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