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#1 Brian Ambrose

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:09 AM

Not trying to start crap here...

 

I find it hard to believe O/S bodies are hard to find. I just raced the Outlaw Series race at Flashbacks in Snellville, GA. Every one in every class but one Can-Am was an O/S body. That's 54 out of 55 cars at one event.






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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:40 AM

Because they're 7 thou. Or less.
And old theory win on Sat. They buy on Mon. Applies.
PS: I'd had 7 thou. Kelly Daytona . And Kelly GTP 7 thou. Those are just hard to find also.
If Terry or Ron don't want to pull them then those need to copied by somebody as well... I have just a few left...



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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:44 AM

As far as I know, O/S bodies are neither hard to find or hard to get.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:45 AM

Kelly bodies used to be horrible. Paint flakes off them iy you hit something and the body would crack. At least the ones someone gets off the wall.
 
But with any crashfest race any manufacturers body you will need a new one Monday.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 09:55 AM

Mine where all pulled by me at his house same and only material that was most popular ( the poly stuff )not true Lexan ..99.9% of KELLY bodies are the poly what ever it's called. That's all the Kelly team ever run. Because it was faster..
I have had some split, some paint chipping which I blamed on the paint mainly Flo. Orange. Or to thick on application at one time..

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:52 AM

I've always had trouble getting Fluorescent paint to stick myself and with that kind of plastic you probably should paint with water based paint



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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:52 AM

From what I'm told they are not available through the distributor and racers can buy direct from O/S, I guess!
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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:54 AM

That's what I had to do myself.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 01:31 PM

I think Ralph Thorne is distributing O/S bodies now. Give him a call to see if he has what you need.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 01:55 PM

I've moved this thread. It doesn't pertain to Florida "My Series" nor USRA/ISRA.

Also deleted/edited a lot of things that make no sense.
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Posted 13 December 2015 - 02:06 PM

Yes, it does Pablo. It has everything to do with My Series.  You're crazy.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 02:14 PM

Please move this back to here I started it. This is for the My Series. My point was the new rules state O/S bodies are not legal because they're not available by the distributors. Most of the people commenting have no idea because they don't race in the My Series and don't know the rules.
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Posted 13 December 2015 - 02:30 PM

I'll honor that request in a sec, but I must say the situation with O/S body availability is an excellent illustration of the near-total dysfunctionality of the competitive segment of the commercial slot racing hobby.

Consider the poor raceway owner: he can't get the bodies many want because the manufacturer has abandoned the distribution system. Same with the hot-tip tires, not available from the distributors. Has anyone considered the ramifications of raceways being unable to source and make a profit on the items racers are chasing?

 

Yes, it a rhetorical question, because I already know the answer.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 02:31 PM

OK Brian, your wish is my command, I moved your thread back, "no harm no foul".

 

I will not argue with you that I am crazy, either. :) If I wasn't, I surely wouldn't be moderating a slot car chat room  :laugh2: 

 

The posts I edited or deleted, were pure gibberish.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 03:17 PM

Please move this back to here I started it. This is for the MySeries. My point was the new rules state O/S bodies are not legal because they're not available by the distributors. Most of the people commenting have no idea because they don't race in the MySeries and don't know the rules.

 

The people commenting had no idea what you were talking about because you failed to explain yourself properly in your original post.

Next time, give details in your original post, not later on after it becomes evident nobody except you understands what you are talking about.

Example, here is one of your posts I deleted:

 

"I know the leaders had made the call and O/S will are not legal but that's what I saw."

 

Does that make any sense to anybody whatsoever?

 

Brian, you have big cajones to call out an administrator as "crazy". Especially me. :laugh2: :crazy:


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 03:31 PM

Anyone that races in My Series would know what I am talking about. The reason I posted it in this forum.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 03:39 PM

As far as I know, O/S bodies are neither hard to find or hard to get.

 

I'll honor that request in a sec, but I must say the situation with O/S body availability is an excellent illustration of the near-total dysfunctionality of the competitive segment of the commercial slot racing hobby.

Consider the poor raceway owner: he can't get the bodies many want because the manufacturer has abandoned the distribution system. Same with the hot-tip tires, not available from the distributors. Has anyone considered the ramifications of raceways being unable to source and make a profit on the items racers are chasing?

 

Yes, it a rhetorical question, because I already know the answer.

 

It seems they are indeed hard to find.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 03:53 PM

I know Ralph Thorne is distributing O/S bodies. He has them. He is easy to get a hold of and deal with.
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Posted 13 December 2015 - 04:26 PM

Anyone that races in My Series would know what I am talking about. The reason I posted it in this forum.


If you had simply worded your first post like this: "I find it hard to believe O/S bodies are hard to find for My Series racers"
it would have been crystal clear and avoided a lot of headaches.
When you make a blanket statement against a particular manufacturer on Slotblog, you'd better be able to back it up with facts.
 
The statement you made about me being "crazy", I will overlook, as discretion is the better part of valor.
If you'd care to send me a PM and call me "crazy", I'd be more than willing to discuss it further.
We can invite some other Florida racers in on the conversation as well :)
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Posted 13 December 2015 - 04:28 PM

Yes, it does Pablo. It has everything to do with My Series. You're crazy.

 

Thanks for verifying that, Brian :D :good:

I'll notify everyone on my email list ASAP.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 05:25 PM

I invite all Florida racers to join in. I have a opinion and I will always voice it.

No disrespect towards you on the "you're crazy" it was meant to be a funny comment.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 05:28 PM

I also wasn't talking bad about any manufactor. I use O/S bodies and will continue to. I wasn't the one out of the 55-ish racers that didn't have a O/S body. Not going to name him but his cars are yellow.



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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:29 PM

Well, Brian isn't talking about me. My cars are not yellow. :D

 

Besides, I left 55 a decade ago.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 06:41 PM

Plus you were not at Flashbacks this weekend. I'm going out on a limb here and guessing you were in St. Pete?



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Posted 13 December 2015 - 08:11 PM

I support the My Series races and the raceways in Florida, along with GRRR.


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 10:33 PM

Well, well, well, it's looks like I may be uniquely qualified to respond to this post.  I WAS at the Outlaw race in Snellville, I DO race in the Florida My Series races, I DID run a non-O/S body, and strangely enough, my cars are ALWAYS yellow.  Hey I'm even (way) over 55 but that wasn't what Brian was talking about, that was actually the number of entries at the race among the three classes run.

 

I'll have to admit that I didn't inspect EVERY car entered as Brian must have to verify which make of body was being used but I will say there were alot of O/S bodies.  That said I don't know how old they all were and I don't know if Brian knows that either.  The O/S Bentlee I used in GTP was well over a year old and purchased when I could get them easily at most any slot shop, which in my personal experience is NOT true now.  For instance, there were no O/S Nascar COT bodies available on the wall at Flashbacks when I got there on Friday afternoon.  Luckly I was able to borrow one from one of the other entrants and I did run one in the race, hey, it was even yellow, what luck!

 

I have to say the Nascar body I ran was very, very thin but that is legal in the Outaw series so no problem there.  But what is a problem is the usual quality of the O/S bodies which is to say they tend to run thinner than advertised (to say the least) and are usually thinner on one side than the other.  This is why one of the retro organizations had to change the body thickness rules and has to scrutinizes the O/S bodies so closely at the races.  Couple that with the real availability problems I've experienced and heard about (from first hand sources) and I can understand why My Series has outlawed them.

 

I know that Ralph Thorne is now a distributor for O/S bodies and he is quite responsive and easy to deal with for sure.  However, I believe most raceways tend to want to deal with a distributor with a full range of products and not one with just a few specific products, it's just easier and quicker for them to do one-stop ordering.

 

So Brian to answer your concern, maybe if O/S would address the quality and availability issues the bodies would be allowed in My Series and would be under less scrutiny by the various retro organizations.  


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Posted 13 December 2015 - 11:04 PM

This horse got beat pretty hard already. Time to saddle up something else. What legal bodies are going to be good (NASCAR and GTP)?


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 12:07 PM

As a raceway Ron has always been easy to deal with, I ordered non-COT and COT bodies last Monday and received delivery as planned at the race that Saturday, with masks.

 

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:36 PM

OK, that works for you, but most raceways buy from distributors and they don't have them. I know from slots and R/C the shop owners just want to get everything from one person. Saves playing phone tag and shipping costs.


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Posted 14 December 2015 - 02:52 PM

Oh, I agree Tony it's more of a hassle, but if customers want them I get them. Rather a slight hassle for myself and still get my customers money vs them buying them somewhere else.

 

That's just me though...


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