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#1 Les Boyd

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:24 AM

I am concerned about what I see that for me makes little sense.

 

First off, most big event slot car races (other than slot drag) have in the past not had cash awards. Doing so only will bring out the worst attitude and behavior.

 

Second to schedule two different class races on two different days with the same rules makes no sense. When the first day is finished it would be a foregone conclusion that the second day will have the same results. So if I were one of the backmarkers (and would probably be) then there would be no reason to attend the second day.

 

More direct is the fact if one only looks at the records of past races the Can-Am class entries verses the Can-Am Plus entries, why would you mix the classes? The Can-Am classes have most of the time three to four times the numbers of Can-Am Plus entries.

 

In the past there have been series and races that I had hoped would make a big impact but because of poor judgment has resulted in setbacks for slot car racing.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:39 AM

First off most big event slot car races(other than slot drag) have in the past not had cash awards. Doing so only will bring out the worst attitude and behavior.


Precisely the reason IRRA® was set up with no cash prizes and you will never see this happen at any off the major IRRA® Premier events. Several on the IRRA® Board lived through the money racing era and it was the most cutthroat, dirtiest racing. Get in my lane and you were walled. Anything for the evil bucks. We did not want to have racing for money, we rather want to have good racing between friends.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 10:52 AM

Every money race I've participated in has been a total disaster, with lots of broken cars and tempers.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:00 AM

Bada-bing!


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:29 AM

I guess we will see in April if this works or not!!!
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:30 AM

Right.
 
The race in question is structured as it is to draw in more racers. But it is built on an old model that more than likely contributed to a steeper decline in slot car racing than would have been natural after the fad phase. I praise Tracy for putting on this race and setting an example for the modern raceway. But his facility is enough to draw racers. The incentive of money may cause more harm than good. If you want the many good racers there, personal contact may be your best method.
 
Slot racing will not be helped by divisive activities. On the contrary, greater community is needed to ensure slot car racing in the future.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:32 AM

Tracy, I wish you the best and wasn't attempting to put down your efforts, only relating my past experiences.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:34 AM

Right or wrong, good or bad, successful or not, one thing's for sure – Tracy will have the most talked about Retro race of 2016.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:36 AM

Talk doesn't pay the bills.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:45 AM

But $650 could help LOL!
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 11:53 AM

Money is obviously not a problem. While I'm not a fan of large paybacks, I think it's gonna draw a great turn-out and be the greatest event of the year, at the greatest facility so why not swing for the fences...

 

I'll definitely show my support for him for building such a great place to race any way I can.

 

Good luck, Tracy. I can't wait!!!


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:12 PM

Money in slot racing is the "Root of ALL Evil"!!! Simple as that! Greedy manufacturers trying to make big bucks from a toy hobby ruined it! The cost of slot racing got out of hand too fast and that ended the fun! 


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:55 PM

$2,000/8 = $250 each for those in the Main and a nice trophy for the overall winner and a steak dinner for everyone that didn't make the Main paid for by the winners.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:57 PM

If I ever win a big lottery there's gonna be a "winner-takes-all" cash (let's say $250,000) race and it'll be a show of the worst human behavior. I'll get a reality show produced over having human beings going nuts over a prize using "toy cars" (as Hollywood would *need* to call them) in competition. It would pull people from around the world. There'd be Doctorates written about the "phenomenon" and the associated social ills.

 

It would be great! I could charge admission!


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:02 PM

Money in slot racing is the "Root of ALL Evil"!!! Simple as that! Greedy manufacturers trying to make big bucks from a toy hobby ruined it! The cost of slot racing got out of hand too fast and that ended the fun! 

 

Is this sarcasm? :shok:  :D


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:19 PM

Don't see this as a trend; no one else is going to pay out purses to Retro racers.

 

I see this as advertising by Tracy to get racers to his facility then they will come back without an incentive in the future if the facility is up to snuff. Talking to a couple of wing racers that attended the Hillbilly Nats recently that shouldn't be a problem.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:33 PM

Wouldn't a better incentive that would benefit all racers would be no entry fees or pit pass. I am sure that would achieve a better incentive especially for those that know they can't win and keep the ones that can honest and still friends.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:41 PM

Money in slot racing is the "Root of ALL Evil"!!! Simple as that! Greedy manufacturers trying to make big bucks from a toy hobby ruined it! The cost of slot racing got out of hand too fast and that ended the fun!


Are you referring to any particular era and style of racing?

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:46 PM

I'd prefer trophies myself. No matter how rich or poor you are, you're never gonna have enough money. Trophies are forever.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:48 PM

Pick one or more:

 

The love of speed is the root of all money.

We have met the enemy and he is us.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:49 PM

Aside from the money aspect, which admittedly I think can bring out some bad characteristics in people at times, my personal opinion is it would have been better to stick with one motor for it. I understand the desire to draw from both crowds, but I have a feeling what you'll see is guys showing up and cycling through 15-20 PS-FKs, and then cycling through 15-20 Retro Hawks.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:52 PM

but I have a feeling what you'll see is guys showing up and cycling through 15-20 PS-FKs, and then cycling through 15-20 Retro Hawks


Or for some, 15-20 4002FK "Hemis".

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:54 PM

Aside from the money aspect, which admittedly I think can bring out some bad characteristics in people at times, my personal opinion is it would have been better to stick with one motor for it. I understand the desire to draw from both crowds, but I have a feeling what you'll see is guys showing up and cycling through 15-20 PS-FKs, and then cycling through 15-20 Retro Hawks


And then back to the PS-FKs.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 03:00 PM

I like the no entry fee, no pit pass, $10 hand-out RH Hawks... 13.4 volts.

A handshake after the race ("Good race, man").

There's an attendance-getter...
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 04:19 PM

I especially like the hand-out motor idea. Even if they want to run the PS motors. 
 
Some motors get really fast somehow.
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