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#1 Neckcheese

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 11:07 AM

At our club in Kolding, denmark, we have been working on a new track, that is better suited to Classic and retro car than our previous 6-lane high-speed track. Also with (too) few members, 4-lane suits us better.

We began with some sketches made by me on my computer and ended up with this layout:

 

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I even made an 1:10 model to visualize the design:

 

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The track was inspired by the Laguna Seca corkscrew as well and my previous club's track in Skalbjerg, which I also helped design.

 

The Start/Goal straight is 65 cm off the floor and the lowest section is 55-60 cm and the highest just below 100 cm, so there are some drops and twists on the layout. total length approx. 39 meter per lane. Difference between lanes max. 15 cm.

 

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We were lucky to find a workshop out in the city, where we did all the measuring and cutting of the 16mm MDF-boards. And when all section were ready in oct. 2015, we sold the old track and moved all the section to our club room and began assembling. First we did  a total make-over of the room which had got new 3-layer windows earlier in 2015. So everything was newly painted and ready for the track :-)

 

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The track sections were fixed to the floor with screws to facilitate milling the slots.

 

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We used a hard, but flexible plastic hose, nailed to the sections for guiding the router. 

 

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When the first slot was routed, we placed 3mm plastic strips in the slot and used these to guide the router for the second slot - and so on...

 

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Then the sections were mounted on the support legs. This took some time as we wanted the flow of the up's and downs as smooth as possible. Some curves were also gently banked.

 

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The last section was drawn, cut and routed in situ.

 

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All screw holes are filled and awaits sanding

 

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The slots are sealed with MDF-filler. The surface was primed then received 3 coats of semi-gloss water based acrylic paint

 

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The basic wiring is done

 

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310 meters of Copper tape is laid down

 

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cables are connected to the copper tape. we have 8 feeding points on the 39 meter long track.

 

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4 mm tough rubber is cut into 10 cm strips, each 14 m long for the track fencing

 

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Box for Race Control

 

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Driver stations - plenty of room

 

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Driver station no. 1 - xlr and banana plugs plus voltmeter showing the track voltage

 

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Power supply and track relays. The timing will be done by the Danish Lapmaster system

 

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Track numbers and finish line 

 

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Test fit of track "apron"

 

 

This is status on Febr. 28th - hopefully we can start testing next week - all lanes has been measured through and the wiring seems to work as planned :-) two weeks ago I ran a 1:24 RC car mounted with a guide on all lanes several times and it went beautifully, although the grip was non-existent. But some Parma glue will correct that in due time.

 

Our club, KMRC are on Facebook - feel free to follow our progress here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/KMRC1/

 

The club is situated in a building which hosts a lot of clubs, from Model Trains to Martial Arts etc: https://www.google.d...56aa24a0c5eed44

 

We are in the club almost every thursday evening from 7-11 PM

 

Niels, DK

 

 

 


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 11:20 AM

Certainly one version of the future of slot car racing. It looks great. What kind of cars, classes, and rules are you running?

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 11:26 AM

What a great looking track and a kOoL idea for "Race Control"...

 

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 11:29 AM

Beautiful!! Very nice work indeed!! Looking forward to your updates and seeing how your racing goes!  Are you going with numbered lanes or colors?  Very interesting driving track! Nice job! :)


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 11:30 AM

Very cool track! No time to relax on THAT track!  lol  100% concentration required all the time.


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 12:36 PM

A really nice looking track! That should be a lot of fun, and quite challenging, to drive.


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 04:14 PM

Nice track layout Niels. :good: Be sure to post some photos of the first race on it running the Danish "Retro" 1/24 F1 cars.


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 04:52 PM

Beautiful work, with some tight turns!
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Posted 28 February 2016 - 05:24 PM

Great looking track. The layout will certainly bring out the driver in every racer.

 

From the looks of the build progress, this wasn't the club member's first rodeo. :good:

 

Where did the old track go? Another club?


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Posted 28 February 2016 - 06:20 PM

Great looking track. The layout will certainly bring out the driver in every racer.
 
From the looks of the build progress, this wasn't the club member's first rodeo. :good:
 
Where did the old track go? Another club?


There has been 3 or 4 tracks before this one, but nearly all of our current members are fairly new to the club - and Yes the track was sold to a club in Sjælland (Seeland) also in Denmark :-)

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 06:22 PM

Beautiful!! Very nice work indeed!! Looking forward to your updates and seeing how your racing goes!  Are you going with numbered lanes or colors?  Very interesting driving track! Nice job! :)


numbered lanes as on our old track - I personally prefer this solution and our chairman is partly colour-blind :-)

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Posted 28 February 2016 - 06:26 PM

Certainly one version of the future of slot car racing. It looks great. What kind of cars, classes, and rules are you running?
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we will mainly be running European type of 1:24 Hardbody (GRP/Plastic)Scale racing:
Classic Le Mans and similar cars up to 1974, Retro F1 (Danish style), White Point CanAm, + whatever we like - Grp. C, Grp. 5, modern GT/Proto and also Scaleauto GT cars and maybe 1:32 cars also.

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 01:34 AM

What's white point can-am?

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Posted 29 February 2016 - 06:55 AM

What's white point can-am?


White Point is a German manufacturer who produces some very durable nylon/plastic chassis.

 

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We race these with the big 18V Black Carrera motor and repops of Lancer etc. CanAm bodies - not the handling types, but the original scale models of McLaren M1, M6 and M8A, Chaparral 2A and E, Lola T70, Ferrari 350, Porsche 906, Matich, Honker, King Cobra etc.

White Point stopped producing the chassis some years ago so today my 3D printed NWP2 clone is also allowed in the class.

Here is a couple of car with the NWP2 chassis:

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more pics of cars - not all cars raced in this class looks like these, but I just love these old CanAm car :-)

 

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Posted 13 March 2016 - 08:53 PM

More progress
 
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The borders are 4mm soft clear rubber, which absorbs impact and are smooth enough to let the cars slide past
 
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Number shields laser cut in white acrylic with self adhesive numbers cut on a foil cutter
 
more updates to come :-)


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Posted 14 March 2016 - 12:16 AM

Beautiful cars show us more please.... Oh and beautifand track Niels..... Frank approves! Now lets see some rubber down!

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 07:52 AM

Looking good Neils

 

The detailed dioramas really takes it to another level. This is something missing from most commercial raceways.

 

Those cars are so beautifully detailed. Must be extra incentive to stay on. 

 

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 09:14 AM

Sam, the diorama is not on the track - its a small one I have at home :-)

there will be no landscaping - at least not in the near future - all our energy is spent at building - now we look forward to  have some great racing :-)

 

 

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 09:34 AM

Niels Fabulous Job. Alot to be proud of. BTW what track voltage do you run ? 

 

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 10:04 AM

Beautiful job!

 

How long does the conductive tape last as compared to braid?

 

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Posted 14 March 2016 - 01:10 PM

AWESOME; Great JOB. I would to run on that track. I built a 4 lane 80' track in my home, the bowl is 32 degree bank. (Talladega NASCAR style)



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Posted 14 March 2016 - 02:02 PM

Beautiful job!

 

How long does the conductive tape last as compared to braid?

 

Cheers

 

The last track i helped build was made in 2009 and they are now talking about replacing the tape in some of the corners, and we have racing a lot on this track, so I dont hesitate to recommend copper tape. 

However I dont have any hands on experience from building a track with braid.

 

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 11:36 AM

Niels Fabulous Job. Alot to be proud of. BTW what track voltage do you run ? 

 

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John, it depends on the classes run, but between 11 and 13 volts, but with 18v for our White Point CanAm and similar cars using Carrera and Bison motors. The track will mostly be used for European type scale model racing and and our (Danish) version of the Retro F1 cars.

 

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 11:44 AM

Update - april 8th

Now the track itself is finished and the Lapmaster timing system will be connected next thursday. Next step is to finish cleaning up and painted the the adjoining entrance room and some other small details :-)

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 12:29 PM

Track looks great.

Looks like you guys found some terrific stuff for the wall's.

How stiff is it?

IOW, if you lean on it, does it fold over easy?

Probably not an issue on a 4 lane track, but I was just wondering how suitable it would be for 8 lane tracks where marshals really have to lean across at times to reach cars.
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Posted 08 April 2016 - 12:53 PM

Track looks great. I bet it is fun to drive.


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 12:54 PM

Just an outstanding job Niels.Also A very comfortable venue...A great place to go fast...regards JJ
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Posted 08 April 2016 - 01:16 PM

Track looks great.

Looks like you guys found some terrific stuff for the wall's.

How stiff is it?

IOW, if you lean on it, does it fold over easy?

Probably not an issue on a 4 lane track, but I was just wondering how suitable it would be for 8 lane tracks where marshals really have to lean across at times to reach cars.

Mike, the walls are 4mm soft rubber, which folds, if you lean too much over them, but its very good for the cars as it absorbs the impact.

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Posted 08 April 2016 - 01:29 PM

It looks just like a track I would want to race at. Nice job on the build! I was impressed with your Retro F1 cars when I first saw them years ago & still am. :)


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 02:30 PM

Really great looking track. Love  the Laguna Seca thing. I knew Mike would like those clear soft walls. That is the way to do it !!


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Posted 08 April 2016 - 10:57 PM

nice setup. giving me some inspiration to build a track now. I got a place that will work.

 

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Posted 09 April 2016 - 09:52 PM

That's just BEAUTIFUL!! What a great facility---first class!! Enjoy!! :)


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Posted 09 April 2016 - 11:07 PM

When I look at these tracks and some new routed ones being built in Italy/Spain, I almost feel that we're prisoners of our own history in the US and our tracks and cars have formed a symbiotic relationship that will be difficult if not impossible to break.
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Posted 11 April 2016 - 12:24 PM

Thanks so much for posting and chronicling your progress. If I had a track and program like this in my area, I'm thinkin' that my time spent at commercial venues would be very limited. Just absolutely the way model car racing oughta be.


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Posted 11 April 2016 - 01:12 PM

Do you use numbered lane stickers on the cars to assist the marshals, like the color coded ones in the US.

 

 

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 01:47 PM

No reason why a commercial raceway could be built along these lines, perhaps with a modular layout that could be reconfigured depending on the season.

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Posted 11 April 2016 - 01:56 PM

Do you use numbered lane stickers on the cars to assist the marshals, like the color coded ones in the US.

 

 

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Yes we do :-)

 

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Posted 14 April 2016 - 05:39 AM

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Our opening race is scheduled for May 7th :-)

 

Classes:

1:24 Retro F1 (Danish style)

1:24 DSV - Danish GT cars 1965-71

1:24 Classic  GT/Sports/Prototypes -74

 

more info: http://www.kmrc.dk/

 

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Posted 03 May 2016 - 06:24 PM

Time is closing in on us as we host our Grand Opening Race on saturday, may 7th. 

27 drivers (7 from Germany) will participate in the two classes: 1:24 Retro F1 "Danish Style" and a mixed class of DSV (Danish GT) and Classic (pre 1975 Sports cars and Prototypes).

 

We tried the track first time on April 21th and it was a great experience after 7 month without a track and nearly one year of building. The actual planning and designing began in Sept. 2013 !!

 

a few more pics of the track and room:

 

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Our Bar - a piece of the chikane from an older track in the club

 

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some happy club members trying out the track for the first time :-) :

 

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I had brought a wide selection of car to try out :-)  - the Red Ferrari is an old Champion/Mura Group 20 car - perfect for a retro track :-)

Surprisingly the track was suitable for a wide variety of cars - even my 1:32 Vintage Mercedes pre-war F1 car :-) the other 1:32 cars are Slot-it and Fly cars with foam tyres replacing the normal rubber - and the performed ferfect on the track and was great fun to drive - like all the other cars :-)

 

I have been busy again in our local Fab-Lab open workshop using their laser- and foil cutters to produce prizes for the race as well as the last decoration for the track surroundings:

 

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yours,  

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 07:28 PM

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We are now ready for our opening race on Saturday, May 7th.

 

28 drivers are participating - 8 from Germany - the rest from all over Denmark

 

we look forward to some great racing :-)

 

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Posted 05 May 2016 - 08:11 PM

Niels, please post some photos of Saturday's races, if time permits. I particularily would enjoy seeing the latest Retro F1 cars & their chassis.


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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:08 PM

Pics from the track friday before the opening race saturday:
 
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now we are ready to race......
 
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Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:40 PM

Outstanding facility. You guys have done an amazing job. 

 

Keep us up to date on the racing.

 

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 05:23 PM

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A little (late) update on our opening race in KMRC.

some facts:
28 drivers - 8 from Germany
26 starters in 1:24 Retro F1
22 starters in the combined DSV Danish Classic GT)/ Classic class 10 in DSV and 12 in Classic.

 

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Vi had a great day with great racing and a lot of talk. After some practice all driver found the track great to drive, so we were a happy bunch from the club :-)

In Retro F1 my head was "overboiled" and I had to stop, but I came back later in the day to win the DSV class with my little NSU :-)

here are some results and some pics - more pics can be found here:
 
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also more info on our clubs Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/KMRC1/

 

https://www.facebook...08191210513902/

 

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Posted 21 May 2016 - 06:55 PM

Nice race videos on Facebook!


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Posted 29 May 2016 - 08:11 AM

Niels.

This is a fantastic layout. I am thinking of using CAD to develop a design that will be CNC routed. After looking at your track, I would like to model my design after yours. A few questions. How wide are your track sections? I see that lane spacing is 15 cm (nearly 6 inches). Is this constant? Are you gutters a consistent width? If so, how wide? After racing the course a few times are there any features that you would do differently. For example, are any of the turns too tight; straights too long or short, etc?

Thanks and happy racing.

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 03:58 PM

Rich, lane spacing is 11cm and the gutters are between 15 and 17cm wide.

 

We had an opening race with 28 drivers from Denamrk and Germany and have been racing a few weeks now.

 

We have only had positive feedback so far and our core club members are just crazy about the layout :-)
 

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I have tried all types of 1:32 and 1:24 slotcars in my inventory (incl. a Champion grp20 with Mura B motor) mostly scale type cars and no S16D/JK25 type cars and ALL was great fun to drive :-)

 

The track is faster than I hoped, but is both fun and demanding to drive. Also the 4 lanes are very different to drive, making things a bit more challenging :-) 

The Laguna Seca inspired mid-section with a 30-40cms drop in height is great to drive (and watch).

 

The lenght of the straights seems fine as does the radius of the curves.

 

Mayby I am not the one to ask, but I see the happy smiling faces of my club buddies when they drive the track :-)

 

 

good luck with your project

 

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 09:50 PM

Thanks Niels,

I'll watch for videos of events at the track. I have already seen a few on facebook. Looks like great fun
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