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[havlicek]

Boy, I gotta start paying more attention.  
 
Here's a Mabuchi I haven't seen before. It's an early style FT16D like the Russkit 23 (same can style as the Russkit 22, but with the "heat sink" endbell). The endbell is a bright red/orange and is definitely not just a white one that has been dyed. I never saw one in this color!  
 
The can is a matching red and it's almost certainly the original color... freaky. Now I'm guessing the either Philippe or Don have seen this one before... but not me. The arm is a messy rewind with thin grind balancing running perpendicular to the lams ("up and down"), so I think it's a home-job.
 
Overall, the motor is in very good condition, especially the endbell which isn't even cracked at the bushing boss.    It does have FT16D molded in.
 

 
-john

[Mark Wampler]

IDK, maybe Monogram had a secret motor.

[Lone Wolf]

John, Monogram did use that color endbell on some of the 16D's in the Indy cars and home set cars at the end around '67 I believe. The cans were silver plated of some type.  This can looks like standard Monogram fare from an earlier time.

 

Just my two cents minus Bernie's cut

[proptop]

Looks like maybe a "bitsa",,,as Dokk or Edo might say...

Bits of this bits and of that..but could be all Monogram?

 

I think the silver Monogram cans (that came with red endbell) are Nickel plated? It's kinda hard to tell, until you put a Monogram and a Cox chrome can side by side, then you can see the difference.

[havlicek]

Thanks for the input guys.  So I guess it's a Monogram and maybe someone else's can or maybe a Monogram can (although the color looks different) or something.  Like I said, I gotta pay more attention!  

 

-john

[proptop]

I've got a 1/32 scale Monogram all brass chassis...a really thin and bendy one.

 

It's got an early Mabuchi FT-16 (brushes in direct contact w/ white plastic endbell) in the original red painted can too... looks like the same red as in your pic John.

I remember my brother letting me drive it back when I was about 6 or 7, in the mid 60's (pretty sure it had a Lola T-70 body on it at one time, but a few too many off track excursions into the kitchen table leg, or bottom of the fridge busted it )

[Isaac S.]

Monogram was starting to run out of FT16D's for their series 2 kits and were using gray SP-80 type motors, red can with white endbell, gray can with white endbell, gray can with red endbell, nickel can with white endbell, nickel can with red endbell. With all this in mind they probably did make a motor with a red can and red endbell. They were mixing things and doing many different things then. PDL says that the only cars he knows specifically had red endbells were some of the RTR cars which had zinc cans and red endbells. 

[bradblohm]

I would have guessed early Monogram (Mabuchi) can and later Monogram (Mabuchi) endbell, but you say the can is not the same red?  U-Go made some motors that used a can that was more orange than Monogram red, and more red than Classic orange.  Where did U-Go get their "in-between" cans?