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[Bryan Warmack]

    It's just staggering to see that the powers that be in F1 don't have enough good sense NOT to screw up qualifying..........one of the few things that they got right.

 

    I see this morning where they just decided to drop the whole mess........

[Dave Crevie]

All forms of auto racing are over regulated. I eagerly support rules intended to improve safety, but those rules

enacted because the cars are too fast, or to prevent a team from using technology they developed because

someone thinks it gives the team an unfair advantage, are just plain crap. To win you have to finish. Teams

that have a poor success rate will not get the best sponsor deals.

 

The best racing series that ever was or will be is Can-Am. In the beginning there were few rules. The end came

as more rules came in, and the diversity of the cars went away. Spectators got tired of watching a three team series. 

[Zippity]

Ah, the "Bruce and Denny Show"   

[tonyp]

Porsche basically killed the canam. By the time they neutered the turbos mclaren was gone.

[John Streisguth]

Indy used to be interesting, until it became just another race in the series with the spec cars.  Innovation was the name of the game, back in the day.  As with all very limited rules, those with the time and money to get that tiniest bit more has the advantage.

 

On last weekends F1, I didn;t see qualifying but the race itself was pretty interesting, at least it seemed more than it has in the recent past.  And at least the debut of the HAAS team has given me some interest.

[tonyp]

Haas did good. My new back marker to cheer on.

[John Streisguth]

Hopefully it's not a "one and done" for the season...

[HarV Wallbanger III]

Bernie and his "buds" are smok'in crack again! European GP..... what a joke!

$um rich guy must have PAID them a ton of $$ to get this race there! This track is nothing more than a "Pinball" track.....

Just wait till tomorrow! Cars will be bouncing off each other and the walls!

 

I can see Monaco with all its history being in the mix but in this day and age... running a "street" circuit with such dangerous and narrow running width is crazy...... My driveway is wider than turn 8/9...

Bernie tells the drivers if they don't like it to go home!!!!!!!!! Its just all about $$ to these knuckleheads!

This race blows.... and so does the Dick'tator!

[gc4895]

Formula 1 is making a solid attempt at having more rules than retro racing. 

[Half Fast]

Bernie and his "buds" are smok'in crack again! European GP..... what a joke!

$um rich guy must have PAID them a ton of $$ to get this race there! This track is nothing more than a "Pinball" track.....

Just wait till tomorrow! Cars will be bouncing off each other and the walls!

 

I can see Monaco with all its history being in the mix but in this day and age... running a "street" circuit with such dangerous and narrow running width is crazy...... My driveway is wider than turn 8/9...

Bernie tells the drivers if they don't like it to go home!!!!!!!!! Its just all about $$ to these knuckleheads!

This race blows.... and so does the Dick'tator!

 

I respectfully disagree, I think the Baku circuit is quite exciting as its old school, blazingly fast in places with slow corners as well. Not like the boring bland circuits of the last few years.

 

Lap 1 turn 8 should be very interesting. I wonder what the over/under is for how many cars make it through!

 

Cheers

 

PS: First time I have agreed with Bernie the Troll in a long time!

[tonyp]

I don't think we will see more than 11 cars finish. 6 safety cars, 1 red flag.

[MSwiss]

Formula 1 is making a solid attempt at having more rules than retro racing. 

Retro racing's "thick" rule book is the secret to it's success.

 

With a thin rule book, technology would always be advancing and obsoleting equipment.

 

IE - Noose just TQ'ed and finished 2nd, at the St.Maarten Caribbean Retro Championship, with a 6 year old chassis.

[Zippity]

Yeah, Formula One would be so much more exciting if it was changed to left turn, left turn, left turn, left turn, left turn (ad nauseam) for 40 laps - NOT!!

[gc4895]

Without doubt, retro racing has accomplished more in terms of generating excitement about the concept and reality of participation than the non-stop fire hose of rule innovation coming from Formula 1. My view is F1, 30 seconds after the start, is akin to watching one way highway traffic. However, I must admit to not being European nor an admirer of Bernie Ecclestone so this must surely exclude me from grasping the fascinating essence of modern era F1.

[Arne Saknussem]

I'm an American raised in the 50s hotrod & the 60s muscle car cultures yet I fail to see the fascination of drag racing, NASCAR, or the Indianapolis 500.

 

But I digress.

 

Bernie's a businessman and if you haven't figured out that F1 is less a motorsport and more a massive marketing and investment lever for the actual stakeholders, you heard it right here.

[gc4895]

Indy 500: World's greatest spectacle in motor racing.

[MattD]

Several solutions to putting on a good racing show. If you want a show and not just a contest to see which car is fastest (which is what racing is really about). Tv has made it about the show.

You want the best show in Nascar of F1? No more qualifying. The line up for todays race is inverted from last weeks finish. Last weeks winner gets the last spot on the grid and the last place guy from last week starts first. Might be some passing and excitement on track if that happened. I would probably even watch it.

The only other option to make racing more of a show is to give them all 5 gallon gas tanks!

That can make it a great show. You want a real speed contest, throw out 90% of the rules and let the fastest guy win, which is what racing started out as. It may not be interesting, but it would be pure racing.

[Tex]

The racing itself has taken a back seat to advertising $; racing is merely a "vehicle"(don't know if the pun is intended or not) for making money. I still watch some racing. The F-1 race in Azerbaijan was neat.

[tonyp]

I was surprised everyone behaved themself. No safety cars or accidents.

F1 has become so high tech that it is virtually impossible for smaller teams to be competitive. The budgets in the aero departments has to be astronomical with changes every race. I used to like following the aero updates, I found it interesting but now it is impossible to understand completely what the hell they are doing.

Simplify the wings and the cars can follow closer. Make the cars evolve to producing mechanical grip instead of aero grip.

[Arne Saknussem]

Indy 500: World's greatest spectacle in motor racing.

 

I could never disagree with that characterization.  Much more accurate than the old song lyric "the 500... the 500... the greatest race in the world!"  And to be clear, I define the word as it's presented in The Society of the Spectacle  (Guy Debord, 1967.) In this sense, "spectacle" means a glaring, superficial manifestation.

[gc4895]

Indy was my first racing spectator experience. I was there in 1964 at the far side of turn 4 with my dad to see the unforgettable 2nd lap conflagration. We went back lots of years but I remember '68 the last year of the STP turbo and '69 when Mario won his only victory. Living in the Midwest allowed me to make lots of CanAm's and TransAm's at Mid-Ohio and Elkhart Lake. We had only a glimmer of the sense that we were witnessing some of the most historic racing of all time.

[Zippity]

You'll never see NASCAR or Indy acting this fast....

 

http://youtu.be/7VCYBtx6h4g?t=5

 

 

 

PS Why can't I get these damn videos to appear here?

[Samiam]

http://slotblog.net/...d-other-videos/

[Phil Hackett]

You'll never see NASCAR or Indy acting this fast....

 

https://youtu.be/7VCYBtx6h4g?t=5

 

 

 

 

PS Why can't I get these damn videos to appear here?

 

 

 

OK... This is something I discovered on my own.... see the "HTTPS:blahblahblah"? Remove the "S" in the "HTTPS" and the video will appear as opposed to a link.

 

So here's the same link with the S taken out:

 

[Zippity]

Yeah!! It worked.

 

Thanks Phil