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#1 Dennis David

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:48 PM

What's the latest status on this website? The domain seems to be parked but you can still access most of the pages by directly linking to them. Has anybody reached out to Greg Holland about saving this material?


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 06:59 PM

I vote Dennis David does it, save all those plans. :)


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#3 Dennis David

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 07:10 PM

Well someone needs to but I wanted to check to see what's happening with it before it's too late.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:27 AM

There really is a good reason to have a hard copy - even DVD's...  Master file, sell copies. Appropriate technology does not need to be the latest technology.


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#5 Dennis David

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:53 AM

Is Greg Holland still around?

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:35 AM

Last I heard from him was five or six years ago, when he was selling off some of his cars, and was still semi-active on the site. 

 

My timeline may be way off too, that's just an approximate memory! 

 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 08:08 AM

I have sent him an email but have not heard back from him. I don't think he has done anything on that site in eight years and if you Google the site the domain has been parked.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 09:56 AM

I had a problem accessing the site six months ago. I got a new URL from Pablo and it's worked ever since.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 09:58 AM

Bill,

 

Does that URL still work today?


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 10:29 AM

Yes the content is still there but the domain is parked. So that usually means it's not long for this world. If you type in http://www.vsrnonlin.../VSRN_Main.html it works

But try typing in just the domain: http://www.vsrnonline.com

Just saying ... Maybe he just needs to add a index.htm at the root and isn't really aware. I guess it's ok, either way I have most of the content.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 11:19 AM

Yes the content is still there but the domain is parked. So that usually means it's not long for this world. If you type in http://www.vsrnonlin.../VSRN_Main.html it works

But try typing in just the domain: http://www.vsrnonline.com

Just saying ... Maybe he just needs to add a index.htm at the root and isn't really aware. I guess it's ok, either way I have most of the content.

 

Another link.  Note: The Dynamic parts list is the most comprehensive I have seen to date

 

http://www.vsrnonlin...RN_Library.html


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:10 PM

Thanks, Tim, As I said before this is a very valuable resource. I hope I didn't step on any toes.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:17 PM

Does that URL still work today?

 

Yes, I tried it before I posted. I also got on through Google.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:18 PM

Can 3D layout plans be used for the new 3D printing in order to make body molds?


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#15 Dennis David

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:35 PM

That maybe better answered in another thread to the 3D guys but off the top of my head you might be able to generate a 3D image using some software program to create a master and from there to create a mold.

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:43 PM

Greg contacted me and from what I gather the domain is still active but he does not have access to the server where the content is stored. He would need to transfer the domain to a new server but that may not be feasible at this time, as Greg has mentioned ad nauseam (LOL) it ain't free.

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Posted 23 March 2016 - 04:41 AM

It would be a tragedy if we lost this resource! Dennis, are you now in discussions with Greg about a way forward, or are you just reporting on the current status?

 

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 06:39 AM

At one time on his site there was a bunch of really early slot newspapers from the beginning of the commercial track area. It would be sad to lose those.

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Posted 25 March 2016 - 09:33 AM

Well I broached the subject gently but maybe too gently LOL.

I understand he has backups but the site is no longer under his control so the provider could delete it at any time.

Unless he desides to release the content that's basically it.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 09:01 AM

The site has gone... expired.

 

Dennis, any ideas on salvaging some of the info?

 

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 10:47 AM

Still hope to send it to the cloud'... site says "pending renewal" of site sponsorship.


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 08:29 AM

How about THIS?
 
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Posted 01 April 2017 - 12:38 PM

Model Cars Magazine (UK)

For those of you who are not aware of the VSRN plans, they are a collection of plans that appeared in Model Maker and Model Maker & Model Cars Magazines (UK).

The original site that hosted them has expired.

The link provided here is from "The Wayback Machine" sight.

I have no idea how long they will remain available, so I recommend you download all that you are interested in.[


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 05:18 AM

OK, I will commit to giving access to all the Model Maker plans via the Classic Slot Car Racing Association (CSCRA)site.

It will take me a few weeks to assemble the database from my downloads, cross-check it against the original VSRN pages, and then create the website pages (the easy part).

I will keep the community informed of progress via this thread and, no doubt, ask for your support and collaboration!
 
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Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:46 AM

Good on ya, Dave.

 

Thanks.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:19 AM

There are also the US Magazine articles. Will this also be hosted? If not maybe multiple efforts are required so that this important information is saved. Does anyone have the CD/DVD that was once available that I can borrow or purchase?

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:46 AM

They also had copies of a very early or maybe the first California slot car newspaper.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 11:35 AM

Here's a link to the 2004 state of the VSRN site as saved by the "Way Back Machine"

 

http://web.archive.o.../VSRN_Main.html

 

This is all that's left. A lot is missing unfortunately.


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#29 Dennis David

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 06:04 PM

I have made a zip file available to Dave and Greg,

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 07:07 PM

Does anyone have an email address for Greg Holland?


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 10:49 PM

It was: greg@vsrnonline.com

 

Dennis may know if this is correct or not.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 03:09 AM

This link is dead, having no doubt gone down with the URL.

 

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 04:30 AM

beardogracing, on 02 Apr 2017 - 7:35 PM, said:

Here's a link to the 2004 state of the VSRN site as saved by the "Way Back Machine"

 

http://web.archive.o.../VSRN_Main.html

 

This is all that's left. A lot is missing unfortunately.

 

Didn't you check the newer grabs - there is stuff at least upto 2008 but I didn't check how well grabbed, 2012 - 2016 grabs  are worth checking. http://web.archive.o.../VSRN_Main.html


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#34 Dennis David

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 12:33 PM

Looks like my zip file has all of the files.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 03:38 PM

Can one download the entire VSRN file and save it locally?


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 04:28 PM

I'm not expert in this sort of thing, but tried it with the Mac programme Site Sucker, and got nowhere. It may be the way that WayBack Machine works prevents this. I just don't have the skills to work this out.

 

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:08 PM

Dave,

 

The zip file I just gave you was "sucked" from the entire site. Have you looked at it?


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Posted 07 April 2017 - 11:48 AM

Thanks, Dennis,,

 

Yes, it looks like everything I need is there. I'll definitely have all the plans up at CSCRA.co.uk before the end of April.

 

BTW Brad of Professor Motor told me he is still in contact with Greg Holland, and he (Brad) has plans to bring out more CDs of the VSRN material. It would nice to be see it all put on one DVD, but that's up to Professor Motor.

 

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