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[Hworth08]

IIRC, without a special tool, a Globe motor should not be disassembled as the brushes cannot be replaced. Anyway here is a picture of the insides of a Globe motor lifted from an eBay auction..

[Ron Hershman]

That thing could be put back together no problem... and without special tools.

[Mark Wampler]

Globe motors! That goes way back. Our track owner at the time put together a track cleaner car, super heavy dragging pads to collect dust using a Globe motor for horsepower. It was geared at 8 to 1 or so as it putted around the track at full power. It worked.

[GotToRace]

Sure hope it can go back together. That one looks in sad shape.

Has anyone ever trued or balanced these things? I've got two I'm working with to re-build a car I had in the '60s just for the heck of it.

[Jairus]

I have a couple of those arms here... One is epoxied and both are balanced.
The comms on these look way better than the one in the eBay auction. Wonder what it sold for?

[Hworth08]

The brush-holding "ring" and end plate somewhat resembles those on a Falcon motor.

A couple of screws to convert a Falcon to a re-buildable motor?

[TSR]

Don,

At the price of a Falcon, who would want to spend time and money to rebuild? Do you rebuild used tires?

...without a special tool, a Globe motor should not be disassembled as the brushes cannot be replaced.

In case the brushes are damaged, worn or lost, it is quite easy to fashion a replacement set from Mabuchi FT16D brushes. The shunt wires (also called "pigtails") can easily be fitted by drilling the brushes and pushing a folded strand inside.
Your motor as shown in the picture is missing several parts: there is a white plastic insulator and a spring-steel ring missing. Do you have them?

That thing could be put back together no problem... and without special tools.

Actually, Ron, if disassembling a Globe SS91 or SS101 is quite simple, reassembly is a major b*tch due to the brush springs' odd shape. And yes, it does take special tools, the first shaped as a long hook, to be able to perform that delicate matter, where the spring must be wound a full turn with the hook, while the very short spring tail can be held with another tool made of a handle and a shortened syringe needle, while the whole assembly is delicately held in a vertical position in a vise using V-shaped plastic jaws... without said tools I GUARANTEE that the assembler will royally screw up both brushes AND springs.
Even with such tools, it is not something I would recommend to novices. Assembly of any other slot car motor is a breeze compared to the Globe motors.

[Prof. Fate]

At the price of a Falcon, who would want to spend time and money to rebuild? Do you rebuild used tires?

Hi

My friend, you collect die-casts for fun, I diddle with motors for fun, even the cheap ones.

Fate

[TSR]

Rocky,

That's not the point. We all like to tinker.

[Hworth08]

At the price of a Falcon, who would want to spend time and money to rebuild? Do you rebuild used tires?

Sure would and sure have!

I would relish the idea of being able to replace the brushes in a FK motor that had proven to be a good motor. Even if the brush assembly was "expensive" compared to the cost of a new motor.

As for tires, doughnuts.

Fair chance the importer that sold a re-buildable FK motor would quickly corner the market. The fact this would create a dwindling market is the reason it will most likely not happen.

[TSR]

Don,

Do you really think that the people using the Falcon motors would care if the motor was rebuildable or not at the price they cost? Especially the TSR D3 at $9.95... I would bet that may be 5% of the customers would... if that! If someone wants a rebuildable motor of the same size, it seems to me that the Pro Slot 4002 in its various iterations fills the bill, no?

Do you have the missing parts for your Globe motor?

[Cheater]

P,

As Don mentioned in his first post, the Globe motor pic was lifted from an eBay ad. It isn't Don's motor...

[TSR]

That will teach me to read with my monocle.

[Hworth08]

Dokk, you're completely forgiven! It was nice to offer your help anyway!

PS... Another Champion of Chamblee 285 frame is on ebay, $90 opening bid, I can't find a cheap one!

[Larry LS]

Well here is one of my old Globes that I have left. Back in the day we had a local racer who out at Vandenburg air when there was lot going on there. And he had a source of these Globe motors and we could buy them from him for $6.00. Through him and the base. We did not ask too many questions.

Not too many went for them but I had three It think. I used to modify them a bit, to get more air flow into them by opening up the end plate and on the side of the can. I also turned the arm shafts to to .093 to get a better pinion selection to use then. I will never restore it as the brush's are gone and one ball bearing has gone into hiding.

The "arm" has been cleaned up and seems to be in good shape yet. Anyone want it?

[Ron Hershman]

Actually, Ron, if disassembling a Globe SS91 or SS101 is quite simple, reassembly is a major b*tch due to the brush springs' odd shape. And yes, it does take special tools, the first shaped as a long hook, to be able to perform that delicate matter, where the spring must be wound a full turn with the hook, while the very short spring tail can be held with another tool made of a handle and a shortened syringe needle, while the whole assembly is delicately held in a vertical position in a vise using V-shaped plastic jaws... without said tools I GUARANTEE that the assembler will royally screw up both brushes AND springs.
Even with such tools, it is not something I would recommend to novices. Assembly of any other slot car motor is a breeze compared to the Globe motors.

Never had any problems nor special tools. An Exacto knife and tweezers, that was it. No screwed up brushes or springs. All that I worked on ran fine.

Had one guy send one in with melted spring posts. Knocked those off and put in C-can spring posts/cups and used Champion 3 coil springs with the stock brushes.

That one ran pretty awesome.

[TSR]

Hey, we can't ALL be geniuses!

Larry, I have the parts to repair it if you want to restore it. Just let me know...

[Ryan Miller]

Don,

At the price of a Falcon, who would want to spend time and money to rebuild? Do you rebuild used tires?


In case the brushes are damaged, worn or lost, it is quite easy to fashion a replacement set from Mabuchi FT16D brushes. The shunt wires (also called "pigtails") can easily be fitted by drilling the brushes and pushing a folded strand inside.
Your motor as shown in the picture is missing several parts: there is a white plastic insulator and a spring-steel ring missing. Do you have them?


Actually, Ron, if disassembling a Globe SS91 or SS101 is quite simple, reassembly is a major b*tch due to the brush springs' odd shape. And yes, it does take special tools, the first shaped as a long hook, to be able to perform that delicate matter, where the spring must be wound a full turn with the hook, while the very short spring tail can be held with another tool made of a handle and a shortened syringe needle, while the whole assembly is delicately held in a vertical position in a vise using V-shaped plastic jaws... without said tools I GUARANTEE that the assembler will royally screw up both brushes AND springs.
Even with such tools, it is not something I would recommend to novices. Assembly of any other slot car motor is a breeze compared to the Globe motors.

Phillipe:

You said you have parts for the SS-91.

I have one that I would like to restore. At a minimum, I need brushes, springs and terminal post insulators (only a black one, actually), and perhaps one or two of the steel shims that go between the magnet and the brush carrier.

What do you, or anyone else that might read this, have?

Thanks,

Ryan Miller

[Horsepower]

Actually, Ron, if disassembling a Globe SS91 or SS101 is quite simple, reassembly is a major b*tch due to the brush springs' odd shape. And yes, it does take special tools, the first shaped as a long hook, to be able to perform that delicate matter, where the spring must be wound a full turn with the hook, while the very short spring tail can be held with another tool made of a handle and a shortened syringe needle, while the whole assembly is delicately held in a vertical position in a vise using V-shaped plastic jaws... without said tools I GUARANTEE that the assembler will royally screw up both brushes AND springs.
Even with such tools, it is not something I would recommend to novices. Assembly of any other slot car motor is a breeze compared to the Globe motors.

This goes for the Globe/Versitec 101 also, as I found out personally. The brushes are impossible to put back. I would not disassemble it if it's still running. I sold a new one (SS-91) 5 months ago for $300.00.

[Paul Menkens]

Well here is one of my old Globes that I have left. Back in the day we had a local racer who out at Vandenburg air when there was lot going on there. And he had a source of these Globe motors and we could buy them from him for $6.00. Through him and the base. We did not ask too many questions.

Not too many went for them but I had three It think. I used to modify them a bit, to get more air flow into them by opening up the end plate and on the side of the can. I also turned the arm shafts to to .093 to get a better pinion selection to use then. I will never restore it as the brush's are gone and one ball bearing has gone into hiding.

The "arm" has been cleaned up and seems to be in good shape yet. Anyone want it?

at the time Globe claimed that there was no need for cooling vents as long as you (they) knew how to design motors correctly, I guess that's all they knew

[Clyde Romero]

These motors were used to open the canopies on F-100 F-101 jet fighters 

[Clyde Romero]

Well here is one of my old Globes that I have left. Back in the day we had a local racer who out at Vandenburg air when there was lot going on there. And he had a source of these Globe motors and we could buy them from him for $6.00. Through him and the base. We did not ask too many questions.

Not too many went for them but I had three It think. I used to modify them a bit, to get more air flow into them by opening up the end plate and on the side of the can. I also turned the arm shafts to to .093 to get a better pinion selection to use then. I will never restore it as the brush's are gone and one ball bearing has gone into hiding.

The "arm" has been cleaned up and seems to be in good shape yet. Anyone want it?

Yes the motor was used to operate the canopy on many early fighters

F-100/101/104/105/106 

that’s why he had so many of them 

[Tom Thumb Hobbies]

They were made in Dayton OH near Wright Patt AFB so we saw way more than our fair share at the raceway. We had a couple dozen AF personnel make the hour drive weekly to race.


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