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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:12 PM

On Friday night the RetroPro racers voted to use the laps/sections qualifying method for the Boola race.

 

We still use the all main format and total laps at the end of it all determines final results.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:16 PM

I feel this could be a good thing. Why not?



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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:19 PM

Marshals.

 

Hey, we are old now. Guys come off and the marshal are not all Terry right? LOL.

 

Hey, if it works for you guys, fine.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:31 PM

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Maybe the idea is to illustrate that the guys who don't come off end up qualifying better, even if they don't turn the fastest qualifying times?
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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:49 PM

I'm sure it is. I always think of the conspiracy theory. LOL.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 01:55 PM

You know, that's the way it works in 1:1 racing. If you crash, you don't often qualify very well.

 

Call me a heretic (again), but my belief is that we have long had an unhealthy fasciination in the US with the fastest lap time. Can't tell you how many times in the past I won races over guys who qualified much faster than me because I stayed in the slot and they didn't. Reference my signature...

 

And don't forget that the BPR RetroPro racers themselves voted to try lap and sections qualifying, though I have heard rumors that things got a little heated during the discussion prior to the vote... Can a majority still be a conspiracy?

 


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 02:29 PM

The discussion was civil for everybody except one LOL. The majority agreed except two people, one being the non-civil guy and the guy he loaned a car to. We are going to try it out at the Boola race and then if everyone agrees it will be voted into rules. 

 

It's always a conspiracy when dealing with the guy who decided to try to pick a fight with one of the nicest guys in slot racing and then try to beat up someone almost twice his age and half his weight. 


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 06:03 PM

I don't see why y'all should tolerate that sort of behavior :ireful3: from one of your racers. If you can't be civil, find something else to do!
 
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Posted 26 July 2016 - 06:16 PM

It's always a conspiracy when dealing with the guy who decided to try to pick a fight with one of the nicest guys in slot racing and then try to beat up someone almost twice his age and half his weight. 

 

Sounds like somebody needs a time-out.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 06:22 PM

The matter has been dealt with. Very unfortunate for all involved. A lifetime of experiences teaches us the bitter-sweetness of life.

 

Enjoy this great hobby while you can.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 08:50 PM

Darn... I missed the action. I heard some details from guys that were there. Usually a bad idea to step in between the two parties, you are likely the one to get hit first.

 

I was at a 1/32 race in Culver City a couple weeks ago and a heated verbal fight which almost led to a fist fight happened.

 

I race for fun and to hang out with guys that enjoy this hobby, but some people take this too serious; after all they are still toy cars.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 09:01 PM

I've always thought that taking the average of the best three laps would be the best way to qualify. Kind of a combination of the other two qualifying concepts. They even use this averaging scheme in several types of 1:1 racing, but hey, what do they know! I've mentioned this a few times before and pretty much have just gotten a blank stare from those I've suggested it to. Go figure!?


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 09:15 PM

Obviously the theory is to weed out the one-lap wonders.

 

While mostly a Gerding King type of situation, I did see a guy make the top eight, at Tom Thumb, who admitted it himself, really wasn't a top eight guy.

 

Maybe still one lap qualifying, but on red or black is the answer?

 

What Noose alluded to is having racers having a factor in qualifying position.

 

The one or two times I've participated in laps and sections, it wasn't an issue, but I can see a situation where in a "one off" situation, a guy could get cut by another "one off" racer, to make it in to a higher Main, by said racer who marshaled his car less than perfectly.


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:15 AM

We ran a lot of laps and sections back in the day. And marshals too many times became a deciding factor.

 

Even so, I don't mind laps and sections.
 


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 07:47 AM

Maybe still one lap qualifying, but on red or black is the answer?


Seems qualifying on one of the gutters is becoming more prevalent overseas; I'm hearing more and more that is the case.

Can't remember hearing that here in the States it has ever been used in a non-local event.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:43 PM

I jokingly said good thing I didnt bring up qualifying laps and sections on the red lane lol 


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:57 PM

Qualifying on red lane at Speedzone NJ would work as it is one of the fastest lanes. Really!

 

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 12:56 PM

It's the slowest at BP and I'm pretty sure at the European wing championships they qualify on the red lane.
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Posted 28 July 2016 - 01:05 PM

Well the "dissenting" vote has been dealt with a lifetime ban.  So we don't have to worry about his disruptions anymore.  And laps and sections---IF the marshal is involved at ALL--then you are NOT a factor. One off is all it takes to knock you out of the A.  But it really doesn't matter-- as you can run the most laps and still win from the "B" main.  It just keeps people from trying a "hot lap" setup instead of a "race lap" setup.  Make your car HANDLE is the highest priority--not a one lap wonder.  It's all for FUN--should be interesting.


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 04:23 PM

 "Combo Qualifying method that follows the 1 minute run alone concept--But-- records your number of laps in 1 minute and your best time. Your are then ranked on separate lists for most laps and fast time. For example lets say a field of 20 racers qualify. If you are number 4 on total laps list and 3 on the fast time list your score is 7. Someone else is 2 on the fast time list but 11 on total lap list they would be a 13 score. The lowest  scores go into the A main, second lowest group of scores B main etc."

 

I saw this somewhere and it sounds like a good idea


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 04:33 PM

Well the "dissenting" vote has been dealt with a lifetime ban.  .

I was banned for life from my local 1/4 mile oval track.... TWICE :D


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 07:54 PM

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