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#26 blkdout76

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:30 PM

Notice the first post only outed O/S for not being available. I've been bounced from tech plenty of times for body thickness as well. So if Ron is going to start shipping to raceways and or distributors make sure they're legal before being shipped.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:35 PM

Look at Premier race results... O/S has been very good at winning or finishing high. Also your tech director passes them. So which is it? They aren't too thin and I can make one call and have them. Seems to be no issue. But at times I can't get Parma bodies. So what will we do when they fall short? You are taking once again a choice out of racers hands. I'm offering to help anyone feeling slighted in any way. I'm offering to do this free of charge and have all this crap put to rest for the racers and hobby. And I have no past with any situation prior to last year so I'd say I'm the most unbiased to help


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:40 PM

Jason,

 

See my post #25.

You may have missed it while your were making your last post.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 04:59 PM

And I'm trying to help with the issues in any way I can. Not for me, for the racers that race in the IRRA. We shouldn't be subjected to run only Parma or Chicagoland F1...  which is what it will be if you look at the results over the last year. I/s Parma and Chicagoland. I truly don't understand what raceways you are mentioning all the way. Could it be IRRA raceways have more trouble in getting the bodies? Or choose not to carry them? In that case why hurt the racer because of the past or a choice?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:12 PM

Jason,

If I want to order a Big Mac, I shouldn't need a go between to get it for me. I should be able to walk into McDonald's and purchase it.

If the situation of not answering phone calls or emails, wasn't real, Mike Iles wouldn't have had to resort to calling out Ron on his own FB page. Please explain how not answering correspondence is acceptable behavior for a manufacturer?

The IRRA® is just trying to be fair to all the racers who realize supporting the raceway is important.

Buying from a manufacturer in a reasonable manner shouldn't require a secret handshake.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:20 PM

Jason,

 

The fact you had to make the above post, shows what the situation is.

I've had three raceways and two body painters personally tell me the same thing.

1) They order O/S bodies.

2) O/S requires prepayment.

3) In the four month period that they haven't received their paid-for bodies, O/S doesn't return phone calls or emails, inquiring about their status.

This is neither made up, or a vendetta.

The Florida "My Series" statewide race series doesn't allow O/S bodies because of lack of availability.

One of the raceway owners I cited above has banned O/S bodies from being raced at his raceway.

Who hadn't forgotten when Mike Iles, of Speedzone, called out O/S on FB Slot Car Race Talk, for not shipping prepaid bodies, nor answering correspondence?

As posted, if we feel we have sufficient proof the supply situation has changed, the O/S bodies will be reinstated, possibly before the delisting takes place.

 

That seems pretty bad to me. I don't know why anyone would question the IRRA®'s decision in light of that.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:24 PM

If I wanted a Chicagoland F1 body I would have to go through the the same style hoops. My local raceway could not order them from Eagle. And honestly how are we to know raceways have been truly hung out to dry by Ron. Since the split could it not be a choice to not sell them by some? If the channels are there for your body... the same channels are there for Ron's. In terms of pure boiled down basic way to source a body for F1 you and Ron are on the same level. Either the shop orders direct or the racer orders direct.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:29 PM

But I can't imagine you'd have any problems timely getting what you ordered from Mike.

 

I don't understand why you're ignoring the issues people are having with O/S. You seem like a nice guy. Why doesn't that bother you?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:34 PM

I don't have those issues. And I enjoy the bodies hence the reason I'm trying to help the racers in any way I can instead of letting the issue about supply fade away and let the rules change next year. Because if not the IRRA racers trying to do something about it... the BoD members will happily make O/S illegal.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:37 PM

And just for the record I've never had an issue getting my order from Ron or Mike. Always good service and in a reasonable time frame. Not a bad word can be said about anybody I've felt with. All the shops and builders direct have always been great. Some places aren't getting that service... so I'm stepping up and saying I will help in any way. I don't see anyone else doing that. They just want to write it off and be done with it.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:40 PM

I've never seen a CL body on the wall at MMW and that is a fact. I guess it's who ya know, Jason. I know i had to order CL bodies direct from Swiss using the "secret handshake."


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:41 PM

All this reading has made me hungry.

 

Mike, can you go to your local McDonalds and order me a Big Mac combo meal? No salt on the fries please. I'll cover the next day air shipping costs.

 

Thanks.

 

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:41 PM

Willy, did you ask Mark if he ordered any? Guess not.
 


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:50 PM

I've never seen a CL body on the wall at MMW and that is a fact. I guess it's who ya know, Jason. I know i had to order CL bodies direct from Swiss using the "secret handshake."

 

I brought 12 back after the Sano, only has three or four left sitting on the counter so you had better hurry.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:51 PM

I've never seen a CL body on the wall at MMW and that is a fact. I guess it's who ya know, Jason. I know i had to order CL bodies direct from Swiss using the "secret handshake."

 

At Sano 10, Bill Fulmer picked up 10-12 M7Cs for Mark, along with a couple C/R tech tools, sold to him at a 40% discount.

 

Mark never contacted me previously, trying to get them.

 

From my original Dec. 6, 2013 ad, and not edited:

 

The first Retro body created on a 3D printer.

 

IRRA™ approved.

 

$7.00 each - standard discount to raceways.

 

Edit: looks like Bill F already posted


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 05:54 PM

"the BoD members will happily make O/S illegal."

Really? The rule goes into effect 11 months from now. Plenty of time to rectify the problem, right?

I doubt those raceways that have banned O/S bodies or won't do business with O/S for whatever reason have that right. It's their business.

Personally I won't buy them. Tired of the poor quality. I paint them but customer has to get the body and send it to me?

I'm also tired of raceway owners out here complaining they can't get them. Yes, that is a fact.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:01 PM

 And honestly how are we to know raceways have been truly hung out to dry by Ron.

 

Because the Florida "My Series" has not allowed them for X amount of years.

 

Feel free to contact them, or their race officials, and let them explain why.

 

A raceway in Michigan doesn't allow them to be raced at all. I think it's name rhymes with "Noogie".


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:02 PM

Hey Mike,

 

I need five F1s please... no joke, for real!!!


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:04 PM

Willy, did you ask Mark if he ordered any? Guess not.


Swiss seems to know it ask him.  


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:05 PM

I need five F1s please... no joke, for real!!!


You forgot the "secret handshke," John...

Seems like its OK for one body maker to do this but not the others?! Things that make you go hmmmmm.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:08 PM

We are not making this ruling because O/S sells direct to racers.
 
What body manufacturer from the Florida My Series decided to ban O/S so they could sell more bodies?
 
You seem to ignore my past post.
 
Boogie Raceway
Cheerio Speedway
HVR Raceway
Mark's Model World
Port Jeff Raceway
The Race Place NJ
Rapid Raceways
Slot-Car's-R-Us
Speedzone NJ
Thayer Raceway
Tom Thumb
 
How does 11 raceways having them, constitute a secret handshake?

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Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990)
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:11 PM

So your saying O/S bodies aren't in 11 raceways? That's bullxxxx.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:13 PM

What raceway do you buy your bodies at, Willy?

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:17 PM

REM Raceway, Josh. You want some? They have anyone I or you may need just like all the other slot shops in my region does.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:18 PM

Didn't know they reopened.
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