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#101 Ralph Thorne

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:23 PM

You are exactly right Ralph. Tom Thumb wouldn't have them even if I could buy them everywhere. My choice. But from the look of the tech sheets it hasn't made
much difference in sales. North of 90% are NOT O/S bodies. That seems to be the racers choice.


So you voted to ban them because they are "unavailable", yet admittedly you actually could get them but you don't want to get them? Same as Swiss.

Seems the BoD members who are also raceway owners could be helping the issue but choose not to due to personal reasons.


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#102 Tom Thumb Hobbies

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:26 PM

The top racers at the ORS with exception to a few run O/S bodies. An O/S body won F1 at the R4 this year. Retropalooza in Can-Am and won F1 and Can-Am at the opener for the ORS. Not to mention when was the last time a non O/S body won an F1 race at the ors? Had to have been Cap at some point as he uses Parma exclusively.

So they are used and they seem to win or the drivers that win seem to choose them a lot.

 

I'm not sure on your facts and I'm not going to take the time to check because it doesn't matter. We both know that Willy could win races with a Tonka Toy body on his car.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:28 PM

Fox, Bartos, Ross all at the top all on O/S bodies. Willy could win with anything that's a fact.

But the fact remains... he CHOOSES O/S.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:41 PM

So you voted to ban them because they are "unavailable", yet admittenly you actually could get them but you don't want to get them? Same as Swiss.

Seems the BoD members who are also raceway owners could be helping the issue but choose not to due to personal reasons.

 

Hang on, Ralph.

 

Where in this thread did I say I did not want to get them.

 

I just had Rapid Raceway, along with ordering 12 of my M7C, ask me if I would sell her 12 O/S M7C.

 

Ralph, you should be ashamed of yourself for implying I would not order them out of spite.

 

Who, in the last 6 (?) months, ordered O/S Bentlees from you? Yes, it was me. I ordered them from you because I knew you would ship them.

 

I will not order direct from O/S and prepay, and not get status updates on my prepaid order, for up to 4 months, as 3 raceways and 2 body painters (one person being both a raceway and body painter) have told me, is the case.

 

Again, please explain if supply isn't an issue, why did a raceway with no IRRA® ties ban his body from his raceway?

 

PS: Butters, racers success has no bearing on us making a ruling, nor should it.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:47 PM

I was just pointing out a fact, Mike. They are the choice of the top racer/racers at the moment. What wins on Sunday sells on Monday... that's all I was saying. If a top racer like Willy wins with a body. A new guys asks what one and how to get it the product sells. Willy and Fox are how I got intoO/S bodies for Retro. GTP and LMP... that on the other hand is different. I had a personal issue with thickness just for my own sake but that was actually rectified by Ron after I complained about it.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:51 PM

Instead of us explaining why don't you explain why O/S bodies are being banned for reasons that aren't true. Raceways could get them but refuese to order for there own "personal" reasons. We have to order direct from you for our bodies. if you want O/S bodies you can get them at any race track around here and directly from Ron. Same as Noose with the Dilworth. So whats the actual reason?


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#107 Ralph Thorne

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:52 PM

Sorry for including you in that thread, Mike. Now that you mention it, yes you did order and sell O/S bodies recently. My apologies!

As far as Boogie banning them, I don't really know the story. That would be up to Boogie or Ron to explain.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:03 PM

Thanks for the apology, Ralph.

 

My post #25 explains why Boogie has banned them at his raceway.

 

Unacceptable terms, told directly from Boogie, to me.

 

Any past dealings I've had with Boogie would lead me to believe he is giving me factual information.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:51 PM

I guess you and Jim missed this on Eagle's website.

 

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Will, I dont see any Ti22 or M7. Nobody in Retro uses those bodiss, they must old stock.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:59 PM

Well, apparently according to Noose they don't have to be available from a distributor.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:05 PM

Will do you think that out of the limited supply that Ron pulls of Ti and m7c that he saves them for his RETRO group.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:09 PM

There is no limited supply. Like i said i guess your raceway doesn't want to contact Ron directly. Any raceways around here has 'em. Ron has over 30 different raceways he has shipping labels to from shipping bodies.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:24 PM

Please have those 30 raceways contact the IRRA® and we can get this matter resolved long before Sept.1, 2017.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:44 AM

Can't get O/S Mirage or M7A F1 body. Have at least five calls into O/S from three different people and zero response. Anyone out there knows why he's not supplying bodies?
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:50 AM

In case any of you don't know, Mic is the manager at SpeedZone. So he TRIES to order direct and can't even get a response. Guess Ron wasn't waiting by the phone ey?

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:19 AM

Noose,

Tell the owner to call Ron, problem solved.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:21 AM

How many raceways do you need total to come forward? 10, 20, 30? This can be done. Just name it... prove to the racers it isn't personal and you are happy to resolve this.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:25 AM

Tell the owner to call Ron problem solved


I guess you can't read. They tried five times. No answer. This was recently to have them for the Fall Brawl.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:31 AM

That's the manager, not the owner... I said that in plain English. Have the owner call. Do you like everyone? Maybe there is an issue there. Chain of command goes up, have the owner call.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:34 AM

So are you saying Ron does not like the previous or the new manager so that's why he is not responding? Interesting. I'm sure Mr. Iles will respond accordingly. He did last time.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:39 AM

All I'm saying is chain of command. If a manager can't get something done then have the owner step in and get it done. You are the one reading into it and making assumptions and attacking Ron. Seems to be a very board opinion from a BoB member. But that's OK... we are being told it's because of supply issues not personal reason. But your statement makes it seem the opposite.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:47 AM

These are my personal opinions and have nothing to do with the BoD. I am the one that is really, really tired of hearing all the complaints at our races from the raceway owners on lack of supply of O/S bodies or how crappy they are quality-wise. I love that tech takes longer since I have to measure the thickness of all bodies. I make more money that way since it goes into overtime.
 
As far as my BoD position is concerned, I had no problem offering an opinion and a solution to the problem to keep O/S in the loop of an approved supplier. This does not go into effect for 11 months so plenty of time for the situation to be resolved, is there not?  You make it sound like they got banned immediately. That of course is not true.
 
Perhaps you should become the distributor since you seem to have access to the ones people want and can make the world happy again.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:00 AM

I would be happy to. I honestly would.

The issue for those apprised is the way this is going. At no point have any of you said you hope this can get resolved. All just bashing of Ron. You are taking something about o/s and always saying Ron does this Ron does that. Not once in three pages have any of the members of the bod said they would like to see a solution or put forth any positive notes that this can be resolved. Swiss is the most neutral as he has helped raceways and racers get the bodies. And thank you for that, Mike.

You don't want to paint them. Tom Thumb won't sell them. Two out of five have no interest in seeing O/S stay on the approved list in just 12 hours.

And you say people can't get them... seems as though your Retro East racers don't have an issue as the O/S body dominates your F1 results... so they passed tech. A tech done by you. So supply is there for your racers to get them and they passed tech.

So I'm not seeing an issue. You think Parmas don't have thickness issues? I had some last year that were thin on one side or both. Did they make it through tech because Parma was the brand? I for one always tell Ron I do not want thin bodies. After my initial issue I haven't had a problem since. And my O/S bodies have gone through tech at IRRA® events.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:10 AM

Whoa. I said I WOULD paint them but they have to send them to me as I won't buy them.  t is my business and that is my choice.

 

The solution is in the announcement. Prove supply and no problem.

 

In F1 out here O/S has not been dominate in our series. There has been a mix. Parmas and C/R have won, too. Maybe O/S might win more if folks could get them.

 

I have never said some Parmas did not have thickness issues. I will say that if one is a bit thin on one side it is in no way was bad as an O/S one. 


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:11 AM

Can't get O/S Mirage or M7A F1 body. Have at least five calls into O/S from three different people and zero response. Anyone out there knows why he's not supplying bodies?

  

That's the manager, not the owner... I said that in plain English. Have the owner call. Do you like everyone? Maybe there is an issue there. Chain of command goes up, have the owner call.

 

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You are saying Ron is not returning Mic Byrd's phone calls because he is not important enough in the SpeedZone hierarchy.

Mike Iles hired Mic to manage the raceway, which means him running day to day operations, which entails placing orders.

I talked to Mike Isles in person, yesterday, at the ISRA Worlds.

He said he has tried to work with Ron, but Ron just makes it too difficult. He added he doesn't understand it.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:13 AM

I never said you wouldn't paint them I said you don't want to. Not your first choice to paint you will but would rather paint the others. I never said you refuse to paint them.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:13 AM

I should say don't like to paint them, not don't want to.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:14 AM

I never said you wouldn't paint them I said you don't want to. Not your first choice to paint you will but would rather paint the others. I never said you refuse to paint them.

 

No, I did not say I didn't want to either. I paint anything. What I chose to stock as inventory is MY business. and I choose NOT to stock O/S bodies.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:15 AM

I never once said there is an issue. I said maybe there is one. I would volunteer to distribute O/S bodies. I told Ron that yesterday.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:22 AM

Wes P doesn't have a problem contacing Ron and placing orders for SpeedZone.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:24 AM

Seems to me, some people easily get O/S bodies with good quality but others don't.

IRRA® would like to solve the problem for the benefit of their racers.

Ten months from now is a plenty of time for the body manufacturers in question to improve the availability of their Retro bodies highlited on the present approved body list attached to the first post of this topic.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:42 AM

I got message from Ron last night and he said that if any raceways need bodies to contact him directly. This message seems to be clearly getting conveyed in this thread.

Onto the next problem, or possible the real problem, how to fix the supply or availability problem. From what I have read perhaps a solution would be for Ron to set up distributorships with a ____ number of raceways.

I sure we can all agree that most of us have used Ron's bodies in the past/present and so let's hope a solution can be reached.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:44 AM

Well, Dom, apparently one raceway, SpeedZone, attempted this and got no response. 


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:48 AM

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:50 AM

Can't get O/S Mirage or M7A F1 body. Have at least five calls into O/S from three different people and zero response. Anyone out there knows why he's not supplying bodies?

  

I got message from Ron last night and he said that if any raceways need bodies to contact him directly. This message seems to be clearly getting conveyed in this thread.
Onto the next problem, or possible the real problem, how to fix the supply or availability problem. From what I have read perhaps a solution would be for Ron to set up distributorships with a ____ number of raceways.
I sure we can all agree that most of us have used Ron's bodies in the past/present and so let's hope a solution can be reached.

 

Dom,

 

If you missed it, it didn't work for Mic Byrd, manager of SpeedZone, who has a Premier race coming up in a few weeks.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:58 AM

It worked for Wes. Just contact Ron just like you'd do Swiss for his and Noose for Dilworth.

 

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:05 AM

So this seems like it all stemmed from bad communication when SpeedZone tried to order bodies for the Fall Brawl. So if Ron was to ship the bodies that SpeedZone wanted and also ships bodies to other raceways then the problem would be solved, right?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:37 AM

It worked for Wes. Just contact Ron just like you'd do Swiss for his and Noose for Dilworth.

 

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Willy, that was sent two weeks ago and SpeedZone has nothing.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:45 AM

Order is being processed. Still no actual answers as to why O/S is being banned? His bodies are in many raceways and can be ordered directly from Ron. Just like some choose not to stock his bodies as a business owner does he not have the right to sell to who he wishes?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:47 AM

Jason,

 

Your post 119 and 121 are just plain stupid. Chain of command crap. I am a nobody and I should be able to call up Ron and order bodies. If Ron does not respond to my calls, should I then have my wife call? LOL.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:50 AM

Order is being processed. Still no actual answers as to why O/S is being banned? His bodies are in many raceways and can be ordered directly from Ron. Just like some choose not to stock his bodies as a business owner does he not have the right to sell to who he wishes?

 

They are not banned, Willy. They might be if supply isn't there. Maybe some raceways don't want to sell his bodies since he is selling them to racers in their stores.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:55 AM

If your wife is your boss sure. I'm not talking about joe blow off the street I was referring to the structure of a business. How is that crap?

 

If you want bodies as a person you just have to contact Ron. He has bodies in stock and is waiting to fill orders. I know he is leaving at some point today to go to a BRS race in Cincy. So get your orders in early to have nice bodies early next week. Don't delay.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 08:57 AM

Then, Noose, the supply is there. If racers have to get them on there own because a raceway doesn't wish to stock a product the supply line still continues... you just are missing a piece because of choice.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:00 AM

And before the tirade starts joe blow is a figure of speak not an insult directed at any fine members of Slotblog.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:00 AM

I am not missing anything. Ask any raceway owner how they feel about about that in their store.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:05 AM

They are not banned, Willy. They might be if supply isn't there. Maybe some raceways don't want to sell his bodies since he is selling them to racers in their stores.

 

So where's the supply issue?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:05 AM

OK we'll probably the same way they feel about chassis being bought from builders? Or about front tires I can't get readily at any store? A six-dollar body is killing shops? But nothing else is I guess? Yet I don't see an outcry over that. Simply a body. Maybe you can direct me to the spot I can buy Matt Bruce front tires over the counter so I can support a shop. You tell me who to call and the order from that shop will be placed today. Because last time I checked I can't run a car without a body or front tires.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:06 AM

If raceways and racers can order them? If there not being banned why are they on this list?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:08 AM

Yes, I had Wes text Ron and got no answer and still have no bodies. I could have sold 20 at the last Retro East race at SpeedZone NJ a month ago. I have never had a problem with Ron that i know of but go on any blog site for the last few years and check posts that are related to availability and Ron is one of the first to post about others in this business and yet he doesn't seem to supply his own products. 
 
I'm the manager of SpeedZone and Mike Isle hired me so he doesn't have to deal with it. So if Ron wants SpeedZone to carry his product, and we have for a long time, he needs to deal with me. The ball is in his court.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:47 AM

I very strongly believe that all racers should support their local commercial raceways by buying products from them. After all, if we don't have commercial tracks to race on, we are done. I buy nearly all of my slot car equipment from the four raceways in Florida who are involved in the My Series and GRRR racing. I have never been part of a team; always paying for my components out of my own pocket.

 

Having said that, I want to talk about my personal experience with O/S bodies. I have raced many O/S bodies over the last six to seven years. Since O/S changed their way of business back a few years ago, the bodies have not been available through the normal distribution network. Therefore, I had to have my local raceway owner call O/S directly and order want I need. At one point I had Bill Pinch order two Ti22s from O/S. They came in OK, no problem there. However, after taking them home I measured them. Both bodies were under spec for thickness. One side was approximately 0.006"; the other side was approximately 0.003". So thin that I could not even make a pin hole without it tearing through. Since the bodies are for IRRA® GRRR racing, I could not use the bodies unless I added significant amount of tape to both sides. 

 

The above is my Retro experience. The My Series experience is that the rules require all products to be available through the normal distribution network. The O/S GTP body was the most competitive. However, when O/S changed their business practice pertaining to distributors, the raceways could not get any more O/S bodies. Therefore, the bodies are illegal in My Series. O/S can solve this issue by making the body available through the distributors. Also, I had the same problem with the O/S GTP bodies have one extremely thin side and the other about right. I remember having O/S GTP bodies with one side being 0.002" thick. These bodies would not last even one race without significant reinforcement.


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