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#51 Butters37

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:24 PM

John, PM me and I will make sure you get them. I have some coming tomorrow and I can give you my personal stash if needed.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:27 PM

How come no one is complaining about TrueScale? Bodies have not been available for a while. Website says can't do it yet some racers can get them.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:27 PM

Didn't know they reopened.


Never closed. REM still orders parts and great O/S bodies regularly from distributors.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:28 PM

Fact: O/S bodies are available in more raceways than Chicagoland.

The rule must apply to all, not some.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:28 PM

Because we all know TrueScale is dead and no one runs them. The only company this actually effects is O/S.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:28 PM

Didn't know they reopened.


Guess you didn't have the secret handshake.  :)


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:32 PM

So your saying O/S bodies aren't in 11 raceways? That's bullxxxx.

 
No, I'm not, or didn't say that.
 
I just pointed out that 11 raceways, off the top of my head, got my bodies at a full raceway discount without resorting to calling me out on my own FB page, because I didn't return their repeated phone calls, or answer their repeated emails.
 

Because the Florida "My Series" has not allowed them for X amount of years.
 
Feel free to contact them, or their race officials, and let them explain why.
 
A raceway in Michigan doesn't allow them to be raced at all. I think it's name rhymes with "Noogie".

 
Willy, if you missed the above post, please explain why the above actions were taken by the above race series and raceway?
 
Do either have a history of being involved with O/S and having to remove him from their board?
 
Done with this.
 
I have 45 tech tools to cut off the "extra" lasered parts, and ship to raceways.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:37 PM

You forgot the "secret handshke," John...

Seems like its OK for one body maker to do this but not the others?! Things that make you go hmmmmm.

 

Willy my whole issue with bodies is quality. I have no personal problems with Ron or Swiss or anyone else that pulls bodies. I buy Parma and Mike because the bodies are of a consistent quality, even on both sides, the cut lines are visible, not deformed and they meet the IRRA specs.

 

Ron has a lot of various bodies. His GTP bodies are the go-to body but their quality is a lot better than his Retro work. My observations of Ron's Retro bodies are uneven thickness, one side is correct, the other is paper thin, many times deformed, invisible cut lines. F1 wings misformed. 

 

Will, even if they are available, without any quality improvement I won't buy them. It's really that simple. All Ron needs to do is make a them right.

 

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:43 PM

No, I'm not, or didn't say that.
 
I just pointed out that 11 raceways, off the top of my head, got my bodies at a full raceway discount without resorting to calling me out on my own FB page , because I didn't return their repeated phone calls, or answer their repeated E-mails.
 
Willy, if you missed the above post, please explain why the above actions were taken by the above race series and raceway?
 
Do either have a history of being involved with O/S and having to remove him from their board?
 
Done with this.
 
I have 45 tech tools to cut off the "extra" lasered parts, and ship to raceways.


Riddle me this, Mike. How many of those fine raceways ordered your bodies through a distributor? Now don't avoid the quesrion, Mikey!


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:46 PM

Willy my whole issue with bodies is quality. I have no personal problems with Ron or Swiss or anyone else that pulls bodies. I buy Parma and Mike because the bodies are of a consistent quality, even on both sides, the cut lines are visible, not deformed and they meet the IRRA specs.

 

Ron has a lot of various bodies. His GTP bodies are the go-to body but their quality is a lot better than his Retro work. My observations of Ron's Retro bodies are uneven thickness, one side is correct, the other is paper thin, many times deformed, invisible cut lines. F1 wings misformed. 

 

Will, even if they are available, without any quality improvement I won't buy them. It's really that simple. All Ron needs to do is make a them right.


Poor quility yet wins a lot of races? No one needs you to buy O/S bodies, you buy what you feel is best for you. it's a knee jerk decision IRRA has done here. Swiss bodies legal but my local raveway can't get them from a dist but they can get what will be Illeagal O/S bodies.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:47 PM

And Josh Crutchfield, who do you buy your O/S bodies from? I can post a pic of a shipping label that you got O/S bodies within the last three months.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:47 PM

I can also post a pic of at least 17 shipping orders of raceways ordering O/S bodies.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:52 PM

How do all the guys racing GRRR series get their bodies? The Mike Iles stuff was resovled. Funny thing is SpeedZone will have O/S bodies on the wall for sale for the Fall Brawl. Fact is O/S bodies are in more raceways through a distributor than Swiss or dilworth bodies.
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:55 PM

There is no rule they have to come from a distributor. Dilworth bodies come to me and I distribute them for him.

It's not a knee jerk reaction either. Willy, you seem to get all you want. Guess the raceway has invoices for them and can confirm receipt, right? I know you want to support the raceway and would not by direct.

Once again, this is not effective for 11 months. I repeat plenty of time for it to be rectified. Let's see what happens.

Then again I guess you can use all those you have in RETRO right?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:58 PM

Don't worry about what i do in RETRO. Show up if you're concerned. I get all i want from any and all the tracks in my region. And I do support my raceways but i guess you know what everyone does.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:59 PM

Lets lock this up and reopen it in 11 months.

 

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 06:59 PM

Never closed. REM still orders parts and great O/S bodies regularly from distributors.

 

Just curious. Which distributors have O/S Retro bodies in stock?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:01 PM

There is no rule they have to come from a distributor. Dilworth bodies come to me and I distribute them for him.

It's not a knee jerk reaction either. Willy, you seem to get all you want. Guess the raceway has invoices for them and can confirm receipt, right? I know you want to support the raceway and would not by direct.

Once again, this is not effective for 11 months. I repeat plenty of time for it to be rectified. Let's see what happens.

Then again I guess you can use all those you have in RETRO right?

 

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:03 PM

Willy, it says distributors and / or raceways. Can be either.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:08 PM

So explain to me how Dilworth bodies are legal?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:08 PM

How will it be determined that the issue is rectified to get those on the banned list off the banned list?
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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:12 PM

Willy, I haven't raced an O/S bodies in a few years. I find it odd you have a pic of a shipping label that was sent to me.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:14 PM

Simple fact is neither Eagle nor ERI have any OS Ti22s in stock, and little of anything else for Retro from OS.

There are all kinds of ways to get product without ordering from the distributors, but they are all less economical for a raceway.

 

The body making companies that supply quality product through the distributors will certainly be preferred over product that is of lower quality and harder to get.

 

OS has no performance advantage over others, so why bother with the extra hassle and expense?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:14 PM

I don't have a pic but I know who has it. You may not have raced an O/S body but you have gotten some - correct?


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:19 PM

So let me make sure I got this right...

O/S bodies are stocked by more distributors and raceways then Chicagoland or Dilworth combined, but O/S is the only one being made illegal due to "unavailability"?


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