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#176 Butters37

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:42 AM

We are racers in the IRRA® being vocal about rule changes that effect us. The ones who pay the entry fees and come to races. I have 40 Retro Hawks itching to run and I'm very excited to go to Tom Thumb next Saturday. Once again we come back to you assuming a discussion can't or shouldn't take place. No one is being hateful. You are laying down options and so are we. I for one would like to resolve the issue so the IRRA® doesn't force me to run a Chicagoland or Parma F1 next year. Or any other racer for that matter. Willy is doing the same thing. That is all that is happening here, Greg.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:44 AM

The distributor argument isn't what we are discussing though, Noose. It's just simply what can be done or whom can be contacted to get Ron's bodies so it appeases the IRRA® and the rules. We are simply trying to follow your rules and get questions answered about what will make that happen.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:45 AM

Hey, Jason, you could run a Dilworth Lotus 43. I have plenty of them. LOL.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:45 AM

Still no answers LOL. Why is O/S bodies on this list?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:46 AM

The distributor argument isn't what we are discussing though, Noose. It's just simply what can be done or whom can be contacted to get Ron's bodies so it appeases the IRRA® and the rules. We are simply trying to follow your rules and get questions answered about what will make that happen.

 

Willy has been discussing distributors a lot. I gave an answer. 


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:47 AM

Could you send me a picture and a price shipped? I'd be happy to try one. But I guess I have to get direct from you since my local raceway doesn't stock them. I have all the current F1 bodies so trying one more never hurts. Could you on me the info?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:48 AM

The discussion is on availability. I just want to get on that level and figure this out so O/S can be well within the spec for when the rule comes into effect.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:48 AM

We are racers in the IRRA® being vocal about rule changes that effect us.


Please don't try to claim that the two or three racers who are so opposed to the body list revision that is scheduled for next year represent all of the racers who race under IRRA® rules, because you do not.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:50 AM

Sure. Here ya go. $7.00 with interior plus $2.60 FCS. 

 

Can have it out Monday. 

 

You could have looked at the list as the pic is there, too.

 

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:53 AM

Isn't every racer important? Is Greg Fox the Sano 9 champion, Willy Custer the Retropalooza Can-Am champ and the r4 champ in f1 just this past year just as import as anyone else?

I do not speak for everyone regarding choice of body. But at the same time you do not either. You can just make rules with the BoD. As you have. You set the rule for 2017. And a few of us on here are trying to get answers as to what needs to happen so O/S can be legal for your rule set. That simply is it.

You should have an email from Ron asking the same questions and trying to get the same answers.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:55 AM

Shoot me a paypal invoice for one clear with a painted interior. Do you still remember the way I had mine painted?

And do you do raceway pricing if the local shop is interested in buying some?


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:55 AM

The way I read it, the manufacturers in question have until 9/1/17 to become compliant. I don't see where any of them are banned. That being said it also gives raceways and distributors ample amount of time to place their orders. If the product is legal and available, it is not the manufacturer's fault if a raceway is choosing not to stock it.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:56 AM

We have an email from Ron. He has one from use. He sent another. 

 

We will send one, too.

 

BTW, Howie won the Can-Am race at Sano 10 setting a new record with a Parma. I won in 2014 using a Parma. They do work, too. LOL.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:57 AM

The way I read it, the manufacturers in question have until 9/1/17 to become compliant. I don't see where any of them are banned. That being said it also gives raceways and distributors ample amount of time to place their orders. If the product is legal and available, it is not the manufacturers fault if a raceway is choosing not to stock it.

 

Woo-hoo, Matt Sheldon gets it.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:59 AM

shoot me a paypal invoice for one clear with a painted interior. Do you still remember the way I had mine painted?

And do you do raceway pricing if the local shop is interested in buying some?

 

I bill after painting is done. I don't require pre-payment. Yes, I give full 40% discount.

 

I will PM you with your total.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 10:59 AM

I know they do. I always have Parma bodies with me as I like to have options.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:02 AM

We have been trying to get O/S bodies at our raceway for up to two years. Try and get a OS68 Charger. Our owner has called several times with no answer or return call. I have been recently guaranteed that O/S bodies would be supplied to our raceway and given a phone number to call. So in the coming weeks we will see if this happens and in the following months if that is backed up.

 

It would be nice if O/S would supply ERI or Eagle with the bodies most racers are looking for. Since tracks like ours like to do one time shopping. But I am sure our track owner will take the extra steps O/S is looking for or wants to secure his product. We don't have Chicagoland products at our track for that very reason. The owner prefers to buy one time through a distributor. If this is an issue for many tracks, maybe IRRA® should review it's stance on the availability process.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:05 AM

Dan,

 

That may be the most honest and fair post any of us have made on this subject. Kudos, sir.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:11 AM

Jason ,
 
It's Like this the owner of Speedzone does not work there he has much bigger things to take care of he only play's there just like you or I would so in this case Mic is the Man and Ron needs to deal with him and I hope fast.
 
 
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:14 AM

As I've stated I have not had a bad dealing with anyone in slot cars. All have been easy to track down and reliable to get what I want so from that end maybe I'm lucky or maybe on the whole slots isn't near as bad as R/C was to get things or services.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:18 AM

Isn't every racer important?


From my perspective the IRRA® rules are written for everyone, from the rawest newbie to the multiple Champion. The opinions of all racers, top to bottom, is given equal weight. We certainly don't lean the rules to the preferences of the frequent winners.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:20 AM

I also agree with this.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:22 AM

The fact you had to make the above post, shows what the situation is.
I've had three raceways and two body painters personally tell me the same thing.
1) They order O/S bodies.
2) O/S requires prepayment.
3) In the four month period that they haven't received their paid-for bodies, O/S doesn't return phone calls or emails, inquiring about their status.
This is neither made up, or a vendetta.
The Florida "My Series" statewide race series doesn't allow O/S bodies because of lack of availability.
One of the raceway owners I cited above has banned O/S bodies from being raced at his raceway.
Who hadn't forgotten when Mike Iles, of Speedzone, called out O/S on FB Slot Car Race Talk, for not shipping prepaid bodies, nor answering correspondence?
As posted, if we feel we have sufficient proof the supply situation has changed, the O/S bodies will be reinstated, possibly before the delisting takes place.

  

We have been trying to get O/S bodies at our raceway for up to two years. Try and get a OS68 Charger. Our owner has called several times with no answer or return call.


Eric Linsley,

The above info answers your question on whether it's just an issue with SpeedZone.

Dan's raceway owner is not one the four I cited.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:27 AM

I am going to a slot track today. The mission: find a Dilworth body. I will likely have to move a bunch of O/S bodies out of the way to look... LOL.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:30 AM

So every racers opinions matter. Thats why there is 4 pages of conversation trying to figure is out
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