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#351 Samiam

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Posted 16 October 2016 - 10:58 PM

Retro is not "Spec" racing. The only components spec'd out are the motors. And why do the fast ones always seem to be in the fast guy's cars. Well, those guys are fast in hand-out races as well. So there goes the "Magic Bullet" motor story.
 
As far as any other unobtainable parts, well, everyone can get K&S brass and music wire. Look at an Edsel chassis. Just wire and brass. Same with Tony P.
 
The stuff the guys won with was used by the rest of the racers the following race. It was that way in the '60s. It is the same now. Only then it took months for the results to show up in the slot mags. Now it is in real time.
 
If the winning bodies can't be had by the rest of the racing community then racers feel they can't win. Or some sort of underhanded shenanigans is going on. That is why the BoD took this action. 
 
My favorite example of how this is all just bunk is when a slower guy asks a fast guy why his car is slow. The fast guy takes his car, looks it over, does a few quick tweaks, throws it on the track, and breaks the track record with it.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 07:51 AM

Sam, 
 
You are correct that anyone can get K&S brass and music/piano wire and I am not questioning frames as it is your choice of what to use. There are many good frame builders out there or you can try your skill at building one.
 
And why do some racers purchase a number of motors trying to find the "golden ticket" that is their claim to fame and fortune.
 
My reference to a "spec body" as such is one manufacturer produces the same body for everyone. On the current list how many different Ti22's are listed and do you need? (wide, narrow, long, short etc.) And if you cannot obtain one of these versions from your local slot track because they cannot get them or they don't care for an individual who produces them, what can you do?  I used two different manufactured bodies as an example. If Parma was the manufacturer selected for the Ti22 for an example and your local track did not have in stock they will fill your order through a track that does stock it. 
 
Yes, if my car is slow due to poor construction on my part, I must suck at building and probably should not waste my time or yours with continuing in this hobby. But if I want to get better, let me limit it to one body and I can concentrate on other parts of my racing preparation.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:23 AM

The top A Main guys will look for every little bit of speed out there. They already have wicked fast cars and are at the top of their game. If they find a motor with .001 sec. worth of speed in it, they will use it to their advantage. I have seen 24 minutes of racing come down to the last lap. One off makes the whole race. 
 
When you can race at ten-tenths and only fall off a handful of times then it's time to look for more speed. The motors are not an issue.
 
Retro is about scratchbuilding cars, brass and wire, pre-'70 bodies, and four rolling touching wheels. If you didn't like the racing that is fine. But don't blame the rules or format. Retro has a particular taste to it that is unlike any other class. Most like it. 
 
The bodies are just one ingredient in the meal. The recipe changes constantly. If Matt Bruce wins the Fall Brawl with a 20 oz. Coke bottle for a body, next week everyone will be running a 20 oz. Coke.
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:29 AM

If Matt Bruce wins the Fall Brawl with a 20 oz. Coke bottle for a body, next week everyone will be running a 20 oz. Coke.


I heard the two liter with the long neck works better.  :D
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 08:50 AM

At least Coke bodies are readily available through normal channels; you don't have to buy direct. :)
 
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:42 AM

And they pass the thickness test.
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:48 AM

And they pass the thickness test.


Are you saying all manufacturers bodies will pass the thickness test? I had to tape my Parma body at the R4 this year.

I feel like one company is being railroaded here due to personal issues. Maybe I am wrong, but it sure feels that way. I will continue to support O/S, Parma, and even Dilworth if they are the fastest body that day.

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Posted 17 October 2016 - 09:50 AM

The Coke bottle passes thickness test. Most O/S will not without tape.
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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:35 AM

I like Pepsi, Tony. They are more readily available in vending machines around me. Royal Crown is good for 3 tenths though.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:36 AM

At least Coke bodies are readily available through normal channels; you don't have to buy direct. :)


Yeah, but if you want a C/L F1 or Dilworth you'll have to.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:37 AM

The Coke bottle passes thickness test. Most O/S will not without tape.


Winning body at Retropalooza didn't have it.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 10:38 AM

Geez, Willy, give it a rest... is there really a need to keep posting the same thing over and over again?

 

This thread is real close to being closed.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 11:17 AM

Just delete my account. I won't be back here.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 11:30 AM

As you wish...


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 11:44 AM

Just delete my account. I won't be back here.

 

Use the platform to spout your agenda then complain about how your agenda isn't being accepted and now you're running away... real mature... and really strengthens your case, not.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:10 PM

I'm sure he's on Facebook telling everyone he has been banned. O/S has 11 months to satisfy the board that shops/dist and not just those that are team can EASILY get his bodies without knowing the secret handshake and password. I am sure Ron will work on this and has plenty of time to do so.

 

In the meantime I think the discussion is over and no need to keep addressing the issue that is almost a year away.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 03:16 PM

I agree.

 

Locking this one down.


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