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#1 Mbloes

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 02:07 PM

I just got this price sheet from eBay...

 

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Which included these handwritten notes on the back!

 

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 02:59 PM

The period comment is pretty ferocious... :)


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 03:23 PM

:D

 

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 03:54 PM

Been following the thread on the new JK Retro motor. Sounds like the don't want to pay over $30 for a motor. So

what does $17.99 in 1969 come to in 2016 money? Bet it is more than $30.



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Posted 27 October 2016 - 04:01 PM

DollarTimes website says it would be $119.86 in 2016.
 
Note that there is no agree-upon standard method for computing the changing value of money...

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 04:14 PM

Also note that $17.99 motor is an open class rocket. For its day.

 

How much is an open class motor today?


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 05:06 PM

Can, which is now machined - $50.00

Endbell, also machined - another $50.00

Magnets, depending on segments - $50 - $100

Arm - another $50 +

Bearings...


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 12:38 AM

My paper route couldn't pay for this stuff, then or now...

 

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 06:25 AM

That was then, this is now:

 

Here at last!!!!  The Ken O Racing Assassin "ROYAL BIRD," a Turbo Blast Plus JK Hawk HR RETRO motor. We mastered the magnet zapping and got the packaging together and now it is available for racers headed for the podium. 

The latest entry from the JK motor racing stable, performance tuned and zapped by Ken "O" Racing and dubbed the "ROYAL BIRD".  It is the same size as the Standard Hawk-7 except the armature shaft extends out of each end of the motor affording bi-directional rotation from one single motor by simply installing the pinion on either end. The same Turbo Blast system of Slick-7 Glidex-II lube, armature to bushing pressure relief, triple magnet zapping and smooth slow break in is done to this motor to bring up the fighting side to this ROYAL BIRD. Made to not only compete on the commercial track but to dominate. It is also sealed and considered disposable also like other 130 mini-can motors so they don't last forever. Right now it seems to be the hottest seller going, so now is the time to get yours. We have  developed our Turbo Blasting system for this motor which so far has been metering higher magnetic readings before and after zapping.  :sarcastic_hand:  It wakes it up and polishes its butt kicking boots. Some racing nuts with a true need for speed will be installing these into their 1/32 scale home track style cars. Yeowee! SO WHERE EVER YOU ARE COMPETING, SHOW THE COMPETITION THE "ROYAL BIRD!"

 

The more things change the more they stay the same. :laugh2:


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 07:12 AM

Ken O could make a mint writing books. People love science fiction, but I'm not one. :clapping:


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:44 AM

I think he can make more money fertilizing lawns.


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:45 AM

This price list harkens back to the day when the biggest motor controversy was the rotation of armature - CW or CCW?

 

They seem to have been simpler times LOL...



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Posted 28 October 2016 - 05:32 PM

I could never afford any of the "Good Stuff." I would just de-wind a stock arm, epoxy it, static balance on my homemade razor blade balancer, and run it till the smoke leaked out.

 

Could never figure out how to get the smoke back in. :dash2:


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Posted 29 October 2016 - 02:12 PM

I couldn't afford the pro-built motors either when they started to come out. I had to build my own. I guess the equivalent to the FK motors back then would be the cheap Japanese motors you could get through EDS or Heath. They had a version which had a round can with no flats, about the same size as the 26D motors. They were available in 3, 6, and 12 volt versions. They were $1.49 if I recollect correct. I tried the 3v and 6v motors, which were actually pretty fast on 12v, but couldn't last more than a couple heats. 

 

I never see any mention of the hot tuning item of the day: silver brushes.



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Posted 29 October 2016 - 03:45 PM

I am guessing that these multiple zapping blasting machines are in the bend over department at science fiction stores.


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Posted 29 October 2016 - 04:00 PM

Yup!


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Posted 29 October 2016 - 07:24 PM

I couldn't afford the pro-built motors either when they started to come out. I had to build my own. I guess the equivalent to the FK motors back then would be the cheap Japanese motors you could get through EDS or Heath. They had a version which had a round can with no flats, about the same size as the 26D motors. They were available in 3, 6, and 12 volt versions. They were $1.49 if I recollect correct. I tried the 3v and 6v motors, which were actually pretty fast on 12v, but couldn't last more than a couple heats. 

 

I never see any mention of the hot tuning item of the day: silver brushes.

 

I have an unopened pair around here somewhere. More smoke and mirrors, and possibly hard on comms, too. I have a bunch of what look like Cox Superflex leads and originally had a Cox insert, but they're kinda short. I have to clean out all that stuff at some point. I've just kept some of it because I remember a time when we all wanted the smoke and mirrors!   :)

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Posted 30 October 2016 - 01:42 PM

I love the editioral comment on the catalog sheet... The same level of skeptism should be applied to all marketing claims... :nea:
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 01:46 PM

DollarTimes website says it would be $119.86 in 2016.
 
Note that there is no agree-upon standard method for computing the changing value of money...

 
I use this site for figuring the value of money over time: The Gov'ment Way. If you can't trust your Gov'ment who can you trust? :D  After all, they know about money than anyone else.
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Posted 30 October 2016 - 01:47 PM

That was then, this is now:

 

Here at last!!!!  The Ken O Racing Assassin "ROYAL BIRD," a Turbo Blast Plus JK Hawk HR RETRO motor. We mastered the magnet zapping and got the packaging together and now it is available for racers headed for the podium. 

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The more things change the more they stay the same. :laugh2:

 

If I give one of these motors to somone I just gave them The Bird!!! Very funny!


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:56 PM

OK, back in the day, what were the peak sales per year for Champion and Mura?
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Posted 08 November 2016 - 05:50 PM

Nobody really knows. I do know that Rick Jordan who started as a kid at champion said when the 517 came out they were working in multiple shifts to keep up with orders. That was a lot of motors.


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Posted 08 November 2016 - 08:17 PM

OK, back in the day, what were the peak sales per year for Champion and Mura?

 

I think it might have been later than you think: 1969-1972... I wouldn't bet against those being peak years.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 12:41 PM

I am thinking that comment on the price list wouldn't have been written if they had been able to

 

turbo blast motors back then. they would have been so much faster. turbo blasting might have

 

saved the industry in the late 60's.


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