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#1 chrisguyw

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:20 PM

My first "serious" 1/24 car was a Cox Team Modified Cheetah.........well, I thought it was serious until I got blown away by the Russkit's and the Dynamic/brass scratchbuilts, at my first visit to our local commercial raceway. At that point I looked elsewhere other than Cox in my quest for speed.

 

I still love the Cox cars and recently decided to try and improve the chassis, in the hopes of making it somewhat competitive.....with the goal of taking it to Bordeaux for the vintage meeting.

 

As well as a big improvement in handling, I was hoping to engineer the bits so that I did not eliminate the option of returning the chassis to stock if necessary.

 

Lowering the front end clearance (using stock sized wheels/tires), freezing the drop arm, adding  a guide height adjustment, and adding weight low and wide were the design parameters I was hoping to achieve. I was also building around the "Dino" (FT16D) chassis.........much better race chassis than the 36D.

 

This chassis will be covered up by either a Lotus 40 or 2D....not decided yet, and I have a few John Havlicek TTX150's to choose from!!

 

Cheers

Chris Walker

 

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:26 PM

What thickness did you use for the pans?


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:30 PM

I love it. Mind if I copy the design?


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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:30 PM

What thickness did you use for the pans?

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:31 PM

That is some gorgeous scratchbuilding! :D

 

looks like it's from the factory. Excellent work & hope it improves the handling, be interesting to see if it would help the 36D versions as well :)



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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:33 PM

I love it. Mind if I copy the design?

 

I am sure we can work out some royalty agreement!! :) ................in the mean time, build away!!

 

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 08:38 PM

That is some gorgeous scratchbuilding! :D

 

looks like it's from the factory. Excellent work & hope it improves the handling, be interesting to see if it would help the 36D versions as well :)

 

Hi Paul, I have done similar ones for the 36D  chassis and the 1/32 cars................a big improvement, a Cox that actually goes!!

 

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:26 PM

 

Hi Paul, I have done similar ones for the 36D  chassis and the 1/32 cars................a big improvement, a Cox that actually goes!!

 

Cheers

Chris Walker

That's really cool to hear Chris , always good to make bad handling cars actually work :D Would love to see the other chassis if possible.



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Posted 08 November 2016 - 09:57 AM

Very interesting 21st century mods to such an iconic chassis.



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Posted 09 November 2016 - 04:42 AM

Actually Steve, Chris asked me about that, not wanting to infringe the Bordo rules, which state "period designs/technology", and I told him this chassis seems fine - kind of similar to the pans often added on the Dynamic chassis combos. Nothing that couldn't have been done in the 60s... I have seen a few pan adaptations for period Cox chassis, but this seems much less common that the equivalent mod on Dynamic chassis - maybe the Cox chassis was just considered too obsolete to even try!

 

Chris's version just looks more 21st century because the craftsmanship is so outstanding! 

 

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 09:55 AM

Beautiful work!


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 09:26 AM

The Roller is done,....need to replace the tie wrap on the lead wires with a bit of tape :)

 

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 03:53 PM

That really IS some excellent craftsmanship Chris!  Of course (and as Don Siegel already said) there is absolutely nothing there that couldn't have been done back then, and I immediately also thought to myself: "well, that's the Cox version of what guys did to the Dynamic...except done to a really high degree!".  

 

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 05:41 PM

Very nice work Chris!  
Thigpen quality in my humble opinion.  :victory:


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Posted 12 November 2016 - 06:14 PM

Very nice work Chris!  
Thigpen quality in my humble opinion.  :victory:

 

Thanks for the kind words Jairus, I just hope that neither Rick or yourself (or a ton of other folks here ) attempt one............I would like to think mine is really nice for just a while longer :)

 

PS Just got back from the track, and the chassis is surprisingly good!

 

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:18 AM

Very nice work and a keen eye for detail.

When replacing that tie wrap try a 1/4" piece of shrink tubing from the electrical department of your local hardware store.

The shrink tubing comes in several different diameters and works great on vintage all the way up to modern slot cars.

I found that a bic lighter works best to get near but not too close to shrink but still allows it to be adjustable.

 

Also, I recently scored a twelve pack of NOS Cox Firestone (14011) soft rears for the Chaparral wheel, if you need a set, reasonably.

Let me know.

 

If you ever build another version of this pan adapter for sale I would be interested.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 04:23 PM

What a beautiful job Chris. I would love to see a picture of the car completed both top view and the Underneath.
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