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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:33 AM

Just wondering when we will vote on the proposals that were proposed?

 

Fortunately I saw the discussion and was able to get a proposal of my own on the ballot. The bumper rule meshes up perfectly with the newly-formed national series rules. I'm very excited as a participating My Series racer to be able to vote on the topic.

 

Been looking for anything with a date for a vote I haven't came across anything if someone could help out it would be appreciated.

 

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 11:19 AM

Mike: Bill Pinch sent out an email having a ballot to vote on 11 items. Also, Bill brought ballots to the endurance race at Holly Hill. Please check your email if you got a ballot. Maybe you are not on Bill's email list. I can add your vote to the listing. I have all the votes with me now. However, I am reluctant to release the results until the directors agree on several matters.

 

If you did not get a ballot from Bill, please PM me your email address and I will forward the ballot to you.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 12:25 PM

The vote already happened I never saw anything posted anywhere about the vote taking place? By email? That's kind of interesting. Email is computer based but nothing was said on any message boards. I would imagine I'm not the only one who had no idea it was happening...

 

Just curious of the results of my bumper proposal? National Flexi Series has came about since my bumper proposal and they like most areas in the country don't require a useless front 1/8 bumper I was curious how our vote would turn out. 


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 12:32 PM

As I said above, ballots were sent out by email. After being out for 2 weeks, I called Bill and asked about the voting. He said that I was the only one who sent back my vote. Too much apathy here in Florida. I know that nearly all My Series racers are on his email list. Eventually, 3 or 4 racers had sent back their ballots by email. At Holly Hill about 10 more ballots were turned in.

 

I do my part for My Series even though I am just another racers trying to get on the podium. I publish the race results as fast as I can with pictures. I also keep track of the driver points and publish those within a reasonable amount of time after a race.

 

I hope to see you at the next My Series race.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 01:10 PM

Since we already run the wedged nascar body there is no advantage to further wedging the bodies. It's actually a disadvantage because it unbalances the car. Guess you have to try it to actually know.

To answer your question they don't have a front bumper rule in the national rules, only a rule that you can't cut into the top of the body. At a track like Greg's the crossovers cause the guide to drop and often you have to trim bodies. One more thing for a racer to worry about that they shouldn't have to. It helps the new guy trying to mount his own body for the first time way more than it helps me or dz. 

I've been around slot racing in Florida and supported it a lot longer than some people like to give me credit for. Longer than everyone not named Danny Zona or Terry Tawney. I'm not in the 2nd tier of racers where I need to propose rules to help myself win races or be more competitive. Even though changing the bumper rule is meant for beginners it seems the wrong person proposed the change.

 

What was the result of the bumper vote, my lone proposal?? lol I have a strange feeling it wasn't even included in the ballot. What a slap in the face that would be... 


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 01:43 PM

I responded to your question Doc before you edited your post... That sounds about as dysfunctional of a vote as it gets. It wasn't mentioned here for a reason. I will keep the rest of my comments and opinions to myself...

 

So did we vote on my proposal?? That is the only question I have left...


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 02:15 PM

Wow...
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Posted 24 November 2016 - 02:33 PM

Mike: I don't know anything about a "slap in the face". Also, you should realize that the My Series directors do NOT take an active part in the message boards in order to disseminate information.  Again apathy. You have a My Series director right up there in Holly Hill with you. Do you contact Greg and let him know about your rule proposal?


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 02:38 PM

Here is something that I find interesting. This thread was started this morning on Turkey Day at 9:33am. In only 5 hours, there have been nearly as many views of this thread than my post back on Nov 12 containing the race results got in 2 weeks. Sad.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 03:19 PM

You seem to be very involved on these boards on behalf of the series and if I read correctly you somehow have all the ballots? A topic that you seem to have major authority on was brought up by you and discussed but then the vote happened without even a mention on here of when the vote was happening? Or inclusion of proposals brought up on the thread? I'll bite my tongue now...


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 03:39 PM

Please read my post #8 and #2.

 

Like I said, I do what I think is an important function for My Series. I publish the race results and keep track of the driver points. And I get no thanks for that. I had nothing to do with what options got on the ballot.

 

And furthermore, if you are so adamant about your bumper rule, why didn't you make sure it got on the ballot or discuss it with the directors. What director did you contact concerning your bumper rule? Name that director!

 

Once again, I had nothing to do with what got on the ballot or not.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 06:34 PM

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out whats going on here. How many people ended up voting? Do you think we would have had more votes had the vote been mentioned ANYWHERE????? I had 1 proposal in a thread started by the guy who posts EVERYTHING for the series on slotblog I'm not sure where else to post ideas?? Like I said its obvious and what you seem to forget is I'm not the only one who got screwed out of voting. Lots of people did. SHADY!!!


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 06:49 PM

Well Mike, I am a rocket scientist. Anyway, you have to promote your own ideas. The vote that you mentioned was taken at your home track. All you needed to do was to show up.  In addition, hundreds of racers got Bill's email.  You can still vote. I asked you to PM me your email address and I will forward to you the ballot. It seems that I am very understanding and accommodating here; just need some cooperation from you.

 

And again, I think that it's sad that this thread now has more views than the last race report and 2 LIKES vs 1.


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:17 PM

It's not just about me and my proposal that was purposely omitted. It's about all the racers who didn't get to vote. You don't seem to understand this. It wasn't mentioned here or anywhere else purposely. Email?? Even those who have email most likely never got them because they weren't looking for them. Why?? Oh yeah because nobody ever said anything about an upcoming vote. What a joke. I know what happened and it's a shame. 


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Posted 24 November 2016 - 09:23 PM

I would have raced but I didn't have the endurance style chassis, another instance of Florida just trying to be "different" why can't we just use normal chassis that everyone has?? I would have had cars that were legal and I would have been there. But again I know nothing and have no input. 


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:38 AM

Mike:

I really don't think there is a "shady" conspiracy theory going on in My Series.  I think that the directors could do a better job of getting information out via a dedicated forum here on Slotblog where My Series directors (or other's) proposals could be put forward and openly discussed.  I'm sure Greg Wells could set that up but the My Series directors would have to agree to actively participate in at least a minimal level.  However that is a bit of a different question and one that I would like to propose to the My Series directors.

 

I for one want to give a big THANKS!!! to Doc for doing all the work he does to keep us informed about My Series.

 

Finally I know you are a very dedicated racer (to say the least) but you are trying to tell us that not having a $20 chassis or two is keeping you from participating in the series, REALLY?


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 08:16 AM

This is not on topic but since it has been part of the discussion, I'll state my opinion.
 
I believe e-mail is a better way for a group of people to receive certain information, than a forum.
 
The My Series tech checklist that everyone fills out at a race, has a 
place for the racer to fill in his e-mail address.
 
It's a lot easier to miss information that's posted in a forum than if it's 
delivered to your e-mail inbox.
 
 
 

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 08:45 AM

There is a point where I have to draw the line Jay I just had to spend $30 on the new one to go with all the other different ones. Doesn't make sense for me to have the endurance chassis as little as it is used.  

Regardless of how the vote process is conducted, racers eligible to vote deserve to be notified. The track owners may not come on here much if it all, but many posts are made on their behalf by who appears to be an official. Many people don't have or check email. It wasn't mentioned anywhere else. To me that is just crazy.

I guess we can agree to disagree. 


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 09:16 AM

I'm sorry, but we ALL know what happened here.

The fire has been lit underneath my azz.

See y'all next year.
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Posted 25 November 2016 - 10:24 AM

You guys act like this was some kind of an official election and a democracy. Florida My Series is NOT a democracy. It is run by the directors who are also the raceway owners.  The directors make the final decisions.

 

And who is allowed to vote? There is no voter registration. The directors reached out to all they could possibly reach out to via the email list and at TWO race events in October and November.

 

If you want to know the facts, all you have is to ask in a civil manner. Bill sent out hundreds of emails on the "vote", which was really an effort to see which way the wind is blowing. If you had given Bill your email address, than you received the email. And I believe you did receive the email and you ignored it. Again apathy.

 

Also, we had a brief meeting before the endurance race at Bill's track in October. Many ideas were shot around and got on the list for a vote. ALL participating My Series racers at that event could have had a say on any matter of importance to them. There was no restrictions. I had 3 items from my other post about 2017 rule changes and could not remember the 2nd one, so it did not make it on the ballot. (my fault) Secondly, Bill came to the Holly Hill race with ballots that he handed out to everyone in attendance. About 10 racers filled out a ballot and turned them in to Bill.  There are about 14 to 15 ballots that have been turned in at Holly Hill or via email reply.  Bill gave me the folder when he left so that I might be able to collect any more ballots at the end of the endurance race.

 

So, it comes down to the fact, Mike and Danny, that you blame me for not getting your bumper rule proposal on the ballot. Well, I could not even remember the 3 that I had; recalling only 2 out of 3. I guess that with the onset of dementia, remembering 2 out of 3 things is pretty good. So when you guys reach 67 years old and you can still race slot cars and remember everything, than you will be doing better than me. Congrats.

 

EDIT: And to make it very clear, I am NOT an official on My Series. I have been publishing the race results and keeping take of the driver points for 3 years as a volunteer. I get nothing out of it. I don't even get "LIKEs".


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:49 AM

Here's the voting results from my email...  Not apathetic - I get tons of email and cannot keep up with weekly race announcements from 4 tracks...

 

BILL pinch
Nov 16 (9 days ago)
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Racers:
 
Here are the results of the balloting:
 
1)  ADD HAWK-6 TO GTP AS AN OPTION:  YES
 
2)  LIMIT EACH RACE DAY TO 3 CLASSES WITH THE FOLLOWING ROTATION:  YES
          January:  INDY, 4" NASCAR, JK LMP
          February:  4" NASCAR, JK LMP, GTP
          March:  INDY, JK LMP, GTP
          April:  INDY, 4" NASCAR, GTP
 
3)  SWITCH TO GT COUPE BODIES FOR ENDURO RACES:  YES
          Parma:  Marco Mantos, Lola T-70
          JK:  Lola T-70, Sunoco Lola
          Red Fox:  Ferrari ???
 
4)  RACER MAY OPTION TO DO AWAY WITH FRONT WHEELS AND USE WHEEL STICKERS ON BODY OF CAR:  YES
 
5)  ALLOW SINGLE MAN TEAMS FOR ENDUROS:  NO
 
6)  ADD SUPER-16-D AS AN OPTION FOR GTP:  NO
 
7)  ADD SUPER-16-C AS AN OPTION FOR GTP:  NO
 
8)  ADD TSR FALCON MOTOR AS AN OPTION IN 4" NASCAR:  NO
 
9)  ADD GROUP-F BACK INTO THE CLASS LIST:  NO
 
10)  ENDURO RACES ARE GREEN FLAG.  NO TRACK CALLS AND ALL WORK PERFORMED UNDER GREEN FLAG. SHORTEN 
        INTERMISSION TO 60 SECONDS:  NO
 
11)  ENDURO MOTORS WOULD NOT BE TURNED IN AFTER EACH RACE.  RACE TEAMS COULD PURCHASE ONE ADDITIONAL MOTOR PER EVENT:  NO
 
Rollin, let's get these incorporated into the rulebook and, Greg, put them up on our Website.
 
Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:18 PM

"............. Rollin, let's get these incorporated into the rulebook and, Greg, put them up on our Website.

 
Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!"

 

 

 

Charlie --- and all 

 

I'm just waiting for the track owners to confirm their race dates.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:21 PM

Charlie: you missed the whole point of this thread. Mike feels that he was insulted ("slap in the face") because his proposal was not included on the ballot. Please read the opening post of this thread and post #5.  Mike and Danny are saying that I am responsible for his proposal not being on the ballot. What total bull$hit.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 12:26 PM

Mike, you're proposal was not on the ballot. At least not the one that I received via mass email.  

 

But if you didn't send or hand your proposal to Greg, Bill, Marcus, or Ed, didn't attend the October race in Melbourne, and didn't attend the November race at your home raceway in Holly Hill; then how was it supposed to be on the ballot with the other 11 items?  It sure looked like there were no restrictions regarding what was proposed.  

 

If you did send it to those guys in person or via email, then you have every right to be steamed and you should take it up with whomever you gave it to.

 

As you pointed out about your testing ...... Maybe the guidelines are actually helping new racers by requiring them to improve their handling by keeping a 1/8" front and rear bumper.  I'm pretty sure most people can measure 1/8" -- or follow the cut line on a Parma or JK body.  Getting that body in the right position on the chassis is another story.  It's always amazed me how much time racers (me included) will spend trimming a body to try to get if off of the track instead of just punching a new hole for the body clip.  :)

 

Doc's right.  The Series isn't a democracy.  Yes, it might be helpful if the Track Owners would spend some time on the message board to see what's going on.  But none of these guys have too many posts to their name, so I don't think it's going to suddenly happen.  (And, if our Nation didn't have the Electoral College, then Al Gore would have been President in 2000 and Hillary in 2016.  There's something to ponder.)

 

What would be even better is if ALL racers spent more time in their closest raceway talking to the track owner and enjoying a little racing.

 

 

Regarding the GTP Enduro class ..... the reason that the Cheetah 21 chassis is used is because it's modeled after a class at P1 Slot Car Raceway in Winter Garden.  A few years ago, Dennis and a handful of other racers suggested using this class somewhere in the Series because they had so much fun racing it at Marcus'.  All agreed that there wasn't time to add the class in the monthly program, so it became the basis of the Enduro class.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 01:37 PM

WoW 

 

I just want to race and have fun. That is when I can afford too.

 

Guys just make it fun and easy!


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 02:19 PM

What Mike and Danny do not realize is that the posts that I make are done as a curtesy to my fellow racers. I get nothing out of it.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 02:22 PM

We can pretend all day. We all know the 2 easiest ways to make announcements for everyone to know. It isn't through email. A post is made by myseries official asking for proposals. You telling me nobody seen anything about it? Well I've confirmed that to be a lie. By the way track owners don't make the rules doc and rollin do. It is way easier to pass a vote your way when nobody shows up isn't it?

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 02:25 PM

A post is made asking for proposals, but nothing is posted about the vote. Like i said before...shady

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 02:32 PM

Now you owe me an apology. You got the email and ignored it. Read Rollin's post. All you had to do was to go to Holly Hill in the last 2 months and inquire about what's going on. What is it? 5 to 10 minute drive from where you live? And you could not bother to get involved in the decision making. Everybody can get involved in the decision making if they want to. You know very well from last year that in the Fall we discuss the next years rules.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 03:00 PM

Can't wait to race.  No big deal to me in terms of the rule changes - I like them - bye bye fronts!   :shout:

 

I look forward to .050 clearance coinciding with bumpers getting shorter next year... :ph34r:


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 06:12 PM

We can pretend all day. We all know the 2 easiest ways to make announcements for everyone to know. It isn't through email. A post is made by myseries official asking for proposals. You telling me nobody seen anything about it? Well I've confirmed that to be a lie. By the way track owners don't make the rules doc and rollin do. It is way easier to pass a vote your way when nobody shows up isn't it?

 

Bull$hi+

 

Please name ONE rule that I've put in place all on my own. If it was just me, I'd have it messed up more than you think it is now.

 

However, I can go find a number of posts where I've advised racers to tell their local track owner about what they'd like to see improved in the Series. 

 

When I was a Racer's Representative for Buddy and co-owner of a track with Johnny; I sat at the table with Greg, Bill, and the other track owners (and racer's reps when they existed) that have come and gone and we discussed the proposals and suggestions that racers had given their respective owners.  Never through a message board by the way. The group of owners reached a consensus and that was what we ran with. And it was always done with the goal of keeping a level playing field and changing only what needed changing -- either by popular demand from our racers in Jacksonville or to allow for changing market conditions.  

 

When I stopped being a track owner in the middle of 2015, my role became "The Typer of the Guidelines."  And, when asked by the track owners, I posted information for the Series since none of those guys spend much time on the message boards.   

 

I made ZERO proposals for the 2017 Guidelines, but I did print out a ballot and vote by sending it to Holly Hill with another racer since I had to work that day.  I'm certainly not the rainmaker that you obviously think I am.

 

Could things be done better? Yes. Volunteer to help.  But, I'll warn you. It's thankless and it pays NOTHING.

 

Can't wait to race.  No big deal to me in terms of the rule changes - I like them - bye bye fronts!   :shout:

 

I look forward to .050 clearance coinciding with bumpers getting shorter next year... :ph34r:

 

Charlie... I hope I get to race with you some in 2017.  You've worked to become a far better racer than I am, but I still hope we get to race together.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 07:39 PM

Airing "dirty laundry" on a public forum, does nobody any good.  :(


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 08:19 PM

Haven't checked my email in over a year lol... We can put that another way doc. Instead of me driving across town to the track here is an idea... Why can't the person who brought the vote up in such an elaborate and calculated way take the 10 seconds to type... hey guys check your emails vote ballots coming... or even hey guys we are voting this weekend at the race since you obviously knew way more about it seeing as you have the ballots. I'm also connected with every track owner via facebook and not a word about an upcoming vote. What vote????? LOL

 

You made several points about what you witnessed at the outlaw race you weren't at, about how all the nascar bodies were completely gutted. Obviously against my idea. Actually not my idea it's the way everyone else does it but what do I know. Even last year we recommended both the cheaper motors and doing away with the fronts and we had people threatening to sell their stuff and quit if they didn't get their way. NOW THATS FUNNY. Now all of a sudden jk new chassis and everyone's opinions sway with the wind. Maybe I shouldn't care because I'm not a track owner stuck with a bunch of front wheels and chassis because we just went over this last year but decided to change our minds. Lets run the new chassis everyone always cried about spending an extra $5 on some real tires lets spend $10 more per chassis. Yeah that's not contradicting yourself. 

 

I've seen the new national series rules being embraced by everyone including usra and world champs coast to coast. You seen what happened last year when we suggested a type of move like that? LOL we try to help rollin but anything me or dz suggests is sure to be met with resistance,  I wish nobody listened last year and it would still be 5 guys racing with 4 different kind of random built motors wondering why nobody new was showing up.

 

There comes a point you can't deal with the shadiness anymore and that's the point I'm at personally. Regardless, I'll continue to race when I can and bring new people to the track like I have the past 15 years.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 09:00 PM

Airing "dirty laundry" on a public forum, does nobody any good.  :(


Yes, it does.

Now when I go to races up north they know I have nothing to do with Florduah rules!


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:03 PM

Biscuit wrote: "You made several points about what you witnessed at the outlaw race you weren't at, about how all the nascar bodies were completely gutted."

 

I NEVER stated that I witnessed anything at an Outlaw race because I never attended one. So you lied, and that makes you a liar.

 

Biscuit wrote: "Even last year we recommended both the cheaper motors and doing away with the fronts and we had people threatening to sell their stuff and quit if they didn't get their way."

 

Who threatened to quit? Name that person. And besides, the My Series directors went with the cheaper motors. So you lied again. This lying thing seems to be a pattern for you.

 

Biscuit wrote: "Lets run the new chassis everyone always cried about spending an extra $5 on some real tires lets spend $10 more per chassis."

 

This makes no sense. Who cried about a chassis? What the heck are you talking about. You are delusional.

 

Get the facts straight or get off this message board. You did the same thing last year. Other members on Slotblog said your posts were non-sense. I am sick and tired of you lying. And it seems that you are the only one crying here. Grow up.

 

Furthermore, you have the notion that I am responsible for keeping you up to date on all My Series matters. Rubbish. You admit that you haven't checked your email for a year. Sounds like you are responsible for not being informed. But you blame me. Very childish.


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:43 PM

We all know behind closed doors you threatened to quit because of the push for FK motors, Doc.

Your track owner expressed this to my track owner. We of course found that amusing.

Can't you tell when you come to our track?

Talk and say what you want. You and I know the truth.

Of course I have the balls to say it.

Do you?


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:04 AM

Danny, I NEVER said to Bill that I was going to quit slot car racing if we raced only FK motors; never happened. And if it "happened behind closed doors", how would you know. So your statement is factually incorrect. Another fact that you don't know is that I was in attendance with the track owners (Greg, Marcus, and Rollin & Johnny) when it was decided to drop the Hawk 6 motor. Yes, I did not like it, but that's the way it went, and I never said that I would quit.

 

"Can't you tell when you come to our track?" What is this all about? If you are referring to the Hawk 6 matter, I have stated to several racers since the Hawk 6 matter that I would prefer to run the Hawk 6 along with the Hawk 7. No secret here. If you are referring to this years stuff, you are at the track (it seems) every time that I come up there. So we know that you are there a lot. So Greg never mentioned anything to you about the ballot? You came into the track while the My Series race was being run. You said hello to me and I said hello back while I was racing. So you and Greg or Phil never talked about the My Series ballot? If no, I find that amazing. So you guys think that I have to personally keep you informed. That's nice and I have no problem with that, but on that day I was preoccupied by trying to win that endurance race.  You and I have always treated each other with respect and I consider us racing buddies. But now I see that is different because of this one matter.

 

"Talk and say what you want. You and I know the truth." Well, I know the truth. Your "truth" is distorted. You can state what you want about rules, however when you start lying about me that's where I draw the line. How's that for balls.

 

Mike wrote: "It's not just about me and my proposal that was purposely omitted. It's about all the racers who didn't get to vote." Who are these numerous full time My Series racers who did not vote? Name them! You cant. Name those racers who raced in Florida My Series more than 3 races this year and did not vote.  One racers on the other side of the state who was not present at the last two endurance races voted. I have his ballot. How come he voted and you did not. You were present at the GRRR event in Holly Hill (your home track) and did not even talk to Greg about My Series and he did not offer up anything. Amazing. Plus, I greeted you when I saw you at the GRRR event and you refused to greet me back. You refused to even say hey. You could have mentioned something at that time. That's really hard to believe. So, Mike and Danny your statement is rubbish. You guys don't know that nobody will ever be able to reach out to ALL racers and you will never get all of them to vote.

 

You guys could have asked right here on this message board what was going on at anytime through October and the first 3 weeks of November, but you did not. We had 2 races at Holly Hill only 8 days apart. You could have talked to someone there. I would have gladly filled you in. How is anyone supposed to know that you don't check your email for years to come. Besides today, email and other electronic media are the best means to communicate news.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:14 AM

Guys I think this thread has gone far enough and nothing is going to be accomplished but make a lot of bad will in myseries. Both sides expressed their opinions , let's not do anything to hurt the series which had a great year.

I would suggest you be of the mods to lock this.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:41 AM

Another thing. Biscuit made a big deal about supporting the series with his long years of entering races. I think that's great!

 

Biscuit wrote "I've been around slot racing in Florida and supported it a lot longer than some people like to give me credit for. Longer than everyone not named Danny Zona or Terry Tawney. I'm not in the 2nd tier of racers where I need to propose rules to help myself win races or be more competitive.

 

Lets talk about my contributions. I have attended every My Series race since Summer of 2010. That's about 78 races, not to mention the GRRR retro races. That's a lot of paid entry fees and track fees. I also buy my racing equipment from all of the tracks involved with the series, including Melbourne, Jacksonville, Ocoee, Winter Garden, Holly Hill, Longwood, Pinellas Park, John's, and one other. I do not buy from the internet. I want these tracks to succeed.

 

Also, for the last 3 years, I have published all of the race reports and have kept track of the driver championship points.  I have over the last several years published stuff here on Slotblog, such as, race announcements, what specific track a race would be conducted on, braid depth, etc. I can not possibly publish everything that any specific racers wants to know. It just can not happen because I am focused on my own racing most of the time.

 

So, Mike, I regret that you did not get informed about the recent vote, but there were several steps that you could have taken to get a ballot and get your proposal on the ballot.  You seem so put off and insulted on this matter, but if you have a critical proposal for the ballot, you need to reach out.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:42 AM

Doc you don't have to go far to read your paragraph about the outlaw bodies I think it's 1 or 2 topics below maybe you already forgot?

 

Also on this message board you can find me and dz suggesting the cheaper motors only for you to argue and oppose. 

 

We spec everything to jk to save a couple bucks then are willing to throw it right back out and change the rules when jk does something new.

 

Must have caught you since you keep calling me a liar even though everything I've said is true and on this board for everyone to see. Your credibility seems to be next to nothing lol


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:47 AM

Like I said 2 people make the rules and you run the series, the track owner thing appears to be a front to make others happy while Doc gets his way with everything. Or he will quit. Myseries is actually Docseries lol. Shouldn't have called me a liar about something that you typed in a public forum clear as day to read. I continue to be amazed. 


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 08:03 AM

Bottom line is Slotblog and Slottalk on Facebook weren't good enough to make our vote announcement. Seems fit for everyone else to use except FLORIDUH. It was an exclusive invite only for those with active email accounts. 


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 09:18 AM

After taking a couple of days off from Slotblog for a funeral and to cook for a relative who just had colon cancer surgery, I come back to this tempest in a tiny teapot...

 

Tony's right, the lock needs to click shut on this one.


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Posted 26 November 2016 - 11:20 AM

BTW, people who aren't using email regularly these days are more Ludditie than I am.

In 2016, not using email is the communication equivalent of being off the grid IMO. And there are downsides as well as upsides to taking that approach.
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