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#1 Cheater

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 12:28 PM

This is actually a repost, as the YouTube video originally posted in this forum was blocked by the copyright owner.

 


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 05:02 PM

It is fun to slide a car around like that. Consider the popularity of "drift racing." But it is not the fastest way around.

 

When I first started road racing, I used to do the same thing. But a pro "tutor" hammered into my head that keeping full car control would knock seconds off my lap times. I spent an afternoon practice session proving that to myself.

 

And he was right. Sometimes it helps to listen to someone smarter than oneself. 



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 05:07 PM

But did they really have a choice using the hard, skinny tires of the day?


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:19 PM

Dave -
 
Do you really think five-time World champ Fangio did not know the fastest way to drive that Maserati?
 
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:18 PM

Having driven a Bugatti T-37 on those hard, narrow tires, I know you don't have to slide the car around to get a fast lap. In fact, with tall wire wheels it is positively dangerous. The high mortality rate of drivers of the day bears that out.

 

Juan Manuel drove in the style that was popular back then. He was one of the greatest drivers who ever lived.

 

Now just think of how great he would have been if he knew about the driving techniques we use today.



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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:29 PM

Couldn't they have trimmed the grass? The place looks abandoned.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 07:16 AM

The track looks like an airport course. Probably wasn't in constant use. Which may have also contributed to the crappy traction conditions.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 07:50 AM

I look at this and think he is not on a qualifying run at Monza or wherever, he is not even seriously testing. He is making a film to entertain us so slide it around a little to show something on film. He did a good job at it, too.
 
Just my take.
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Posted 08 December 2016 - 04:54 PM

You may be right, Eddie. That "toss it around" style of driving certainly gave the feeling that racing was hard work. Which
it was. Just look a physiques of the drivers like Fangio and Phil Hill. And Froilan Gonzales. These were the days when, as
an old friend put it, "The drivers were fat and the tires were skinny".
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