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Posted 07 March 2017 - 09:18 PM

The chassis and drop arm are finished. The drop arm is attached with a piece of 1/16" stainless steel tubing. This strong tubing is oversized and helps tighten up the fit to the frame ( thanks for the tip Steve O  :) ):

 

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The finished chassis:

 

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Next I need to find another type of guide flag. Check out this leaning CorBen guide.  :wacko2:

 

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 10:55 PM

You showed us two of them... are they both leaning?


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 12:06 AM

I stopped checking after a half dozen of them looked the same. :shok:


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:36 AM

See, it pays to have bad eyesight - I never noticed that! 

 

Rick, you might try one of the early K&B yellow guides, they're from about the same period and I think they're relatively short also. 

 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:13 PM

Well... in retrospect, the handling won't be no Flexi racer regardless.

I'd just put it on and see how it runs.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:40 PM

I think you are absolutely right, Jairus. At the speed the mighty Pittman armature will provide, I bet the lap time difference between a straight and bent guide flag post might cause would not be measurable.

 

Having said that, it bugs me so I installed a Cox screw-on braid style guide. :laugh2: :crazy: :dance3:


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:11 PM

May I throw this in? How about just elevate the port side with a 10 thou strip of Lexan under the braid and call it a day?


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:14 PM

Too late! The Cox guide is on the car.  :D

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:20 PM

Its nice to see a beautiful pre Jail Door build. But the car looks like it will be a handful on the track! :)
 
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:17 PM

Thanks, Bill.
 
These old cars can be a real hoot to drive. It's all a question of balance. A pair of modern .800" wide fish rubber tires on this car and a spray-glued track would be a recipe for barrel rolls at every turn.
 
A pair of vintage repop urethane or silicone tires will make it tons of fun to power slide around the track.
 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:40 PM

I agree Rick, the controlled drift was beautiful thing to see and the mark of a masterful race driver. It is a shame that modern wings and aerodynamics have pinned the cars to the ground.
 
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 04:22 PM

The beastly "Pit-Buchi" is assembled and wearing a coat of black wrinkle paint:
 
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It's nice and smooth on the power supply, too:
 
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A track test is next...
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Posted 18 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

Car is amazing and that PitBuchi looks stunning. :D Almost factory!

Don't know if the Pittman brush set-up offers better performance over regular ones but sure looks better with that RAM endbell. :heart:

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 05:25 PM

I love that "Pit-Buchi" :heart: :heart: :heart:


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Posted 18 March 2017 - 07:04 PM

Two things I learned about that brush set up running one in a Thingie proxy is... the brush arms get hot enough to soften the solder on the lead wires.

Second, lack of brakes.

Beautiful though, Rick, and doubt it'll ever see the horrors of 9 or 10 race tracks like mine did. ;-)

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 08:13 PM

Hi guys,
 
Here's the roller ready for a body-less track test:
 
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On my track I tested the three different types of tires I posted earlier. This car seems to like the French urethane tires best:
 
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The car is much quicker on my track than I expected. With the matched Mabuchi 16D magnets, the brakes are good and the temperature doesn't seem excessive... so far!
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:48 PM

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 12:30 AM

Great work Rick, looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for the inspiration.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:38 PM

Thanks for your interest guys, I've made a little progress and hope to get a lot more done now. :)

 

Here's a look at the 4 cam Porsche motor. Note how high the engine fan shroud sits above the bodywork and the intake velocity stacks are elevated on what appears to be sections of hose:

 

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I cut the molded in engine detail out of the Lancer body so I can add some injection molded bits like Russkit used to do with their fabulous bodies:

 

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I'm doing some more "kit bashing" for the engine from this reissue model kit:

 

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Mr. Milling Machine works wonder for accurately placing the holes for the intake stacks:

 

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I hope to get all the bits painted and assembled soon........


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Posted 22 April 2017 - 04:40 AM

Nice work Rick! I know you keep saying you don't like working on the bodies, but boy, when you do, it's impressive! 

 

Carry on Constable! 

 

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:29 PM

Thanks Don..........I can't believe how slow I am. I seem to have a hard time getting back to a project. Then, when I do, I have fun and wonder why I waited so long. :wacko2: :laugh2:

 

Motor detail:

 

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For the interior, I tried to make it look a somewhat like the real car. It shouldn't have a passenger seat but at least it's red. So is the steering wheel and dash. The floor is aluminum, the dash top is black and the sides of the interior are body color.

 

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Okie Dokie Jairus, time for me to try my hand at applying the beautiful number 16 masks you sent me and paint the body white.............


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Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:39 PM

Nice work as always  Rick. :good:

 

 

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 09:01 AM

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 04:49 PM

Well....."the best laid plans", as they say.......don't always work. Here was the original plan:
 

I remember when the Lancer body of the Follmer Lotus 23-Porsche showed up in our raceway display case back in the day:

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I loved it but with its small size it wouldn’t fit on any of my pro style cars and I’ve always wanted to build one:

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I never attempted the build because I knew I couldn’t adequately duplicate the livery on the real car with its gold leaf numbers and Trans Ocean Motors on the sides:

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My buddy and artist Jairus Watson has agreed to help me. He's going to do the hand lettering and gold leaf numbers and let me paint the body and interior...Thanks, Jairus! :thank_you2:

 

Jairus came through with super cool custom #16 masks for me to install on the inside of the body before I painted it white:

 

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This is a method Jairus uses all the time with his typical outstanding results. Trouble is, I apparently suck at this process. :o Even though I washed the body with Dawn and let it air dry, the masks would not stick down. I'd burnish the masks down and watch the edges slowly lift up.

 

The problem could have been that I scuffed up the inside of the body with a Scotchbrite pad........or it is more likely that I just suck at this. :dash2:

 

Jairus came through again and told me to just paint the body white and he'd work his magic to put the gold leaf numbers on the outside of the body:

 

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I can still take Jairus up on his generous offer but I decided to see what a "troubled detailer" such as myself could do with over the shelf items like these eBay gold numbers........

 

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.........some vintage Auto World decals and a Dymo label maker:

 

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I'm pretty happy with the engine detail...........

 

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.............and the wheels too but the lettering on the body sides, not so much: :unknw:

 

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Anyway, it's a nice driving car:

 

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Onward :D

 


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Posted 29 May 2017 - 06:06 PM

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