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#1 Lone Wolf

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:41 PM

Just picked these up. They are vintage but that's about all I know. Wish I had some of the rewinds listed on the back. White endbell is a little odd. Were these made for R.P.M. or did they repackage somebody's leftovers. Maybe Revell?

 

What can you tell me?

 

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I have two of these for sale. If interested make a fair offer.

 

Thanks.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 05:08 PM

That's from my neck of the woods, but I never heard of them.

 

Certainly, they were not a big company.

 

The two mover and shakers from that area were Art Harris of Tom Thumb, in Evanston, and Kenny Ito, from Kenny's, in Morton Grove.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:30 PM

Never heard of those either Joe; and Niles, Illinois? Anybody know if there was a track there? This one definitely looks repackaged, especially with that price tag, and the rewinds aren't too expensive... 

 

Very strange one, Joe, and good find. 

 

I'd make an offer, but have no idea what these could be worth! 

 

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:16 PM

There was probably a track in Niles, but unfortunately, someone like Sano Dave, who might have remembered it, has passed.

But with a PO Box as an address, it might of been an existing residential box, and very well could of been someone who had a raceway in an adjoining suburb, like Kenny.

$1.89 is cheap, especially with a steel pinion.

I seem to remember something like a 26D was $3.00, and a 36D, $4.00.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 09:29 PM

Look to be late 1960s Mabuchi. Card has no zip code (date?)... like local craft brewers, anyone could fill a bag.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 09:59 PM

About a '65 or '66 product. The reference to "Hemi" pretty much nails it down to right after the Hemi was introduced and was pretty dominate for a stock over the counter motor. It looks to be the same can as a Cox 150 (?) and an early meltable eyeball-searing endbell. Undoubtedly a surplus buy that supported their interest in their rewinds at a higher price.

But I will probably be wrong when the real history buffs may look.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:06 PM

Tom,

How common were steel pinions back than?


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:43 PM

Not uncommon except as OE on cheap motors. There were steel crowns and spurs that killed brass pinions. Eventually the correct materials were introduced.
 

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:02 AM

Without closer photos, they seem like ordinary Mabuchi FT16D motors that were simply repackaged.  The value is probably more in the packaging than the motors themselves, if someone was looking just for off-brand items from the period.  The rewinds listed on the back of the packaging would probably (?) be somewhat more valuable to a collector than the "Stock Special".  I suspect that there are many many similar examples from back then that were packaged by individuals and tracks to cash-in on the "boutique" craze that still haven't surfaced.  Everyone (including Radio Shack) sold Mabuchi motors during that brief blip when slot cars seemed mainstream, like Erector Sets, Hula Hoops and Gilbert Chemistry Sets.

 

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:47 AM

I understand the motor itself is nothing special. More interested in the brand. John is correct on the rewind value. Here is one I just sold to the museum.
 
Vintage CJ Manufacturing SST 16D Rewound Motor

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John is also correct that in the end everyone sold the leftovers. Olsen was a big one who seemed to have all of Rannallis leftovers.
 
Here is an Archer/Tandy/Radio Shack item.
 
Two of the most ugly 16Ds in "mustard" for 99 cents. These were Marx-only motors.
 
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 09:01 AM

Just as an addendum to what John said, I think most of these discount-priced slot car Mabuchi motors were actually sold, not at the height of the boom, but afterwards, when they couldn't give them away! That would be starting in '66 or so for some of the open frame motors or early Mabuchis, and maybe the following year for the ones like the two Marxes shown above. And companies like Olsen and Radio Shack probably kept selling them for many years afterwards... 
 
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 10:15 AM

We used to buy surplus 36Ds for fifty cents just for the brushes and chuck the rest of the motor. They seemed to be chrome Cox motors and were just bulk packed in Styrofoam.
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:58 AM

Just as an aside, zip codes began to be used in 1967.
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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:54 PM

Zip codes were first used in 1963. 


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:24 PM

From reference.com:
 
"The United States Postal Service began using two-digit area codes in order to define postal zones in larger cities. Beginning in 1967, the ZIP code became progressively mandatory. The word "ZIP" comes from the acronym for "Zone Improvement Plan."


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:27 PM

By the early 1960s a more organized system was needed, and on July 1, 1963, non-mandatory ZIP codes were announced for the entire country. Simultaneously with the introduction of the ZIP code, two-letter state abbreviations were introduced.


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