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#1 SlowBeas

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:14 PM

My can of Pure cleaner just went kaput. So, I ran down to the automotive store to find another.

 

Couldn't find Pure, but I found one (made by EC, maybe?). I could almost swear I recall reading on the label that the spray contains TCE. Is that okay for use with our motors?

 

(Granted, I'll do what I can to prevent TCE's admission to the local water table or possibly ingesting/inhaling.)

 

What motor cleaner do you put your confidence in?


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:19 PM

Pure motor cleaner is a product only distributed to the slot car world, I'm pretty sure.
 
Substitute for Pure Performance motor cleaner?


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:20 PM

Trichloroethane? Trichloroethylene?

 

Unless that can is old I doubt it's either of the above since they were declared an ozone-depleting chemical in the '90s.... Chlorinated solvents have been under attack for a long time for either health or environmental issues...


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:25 PM

Trichloroethylene should be correct and yeah, I would surprised to find that chemical in a current cleaner on the shelf.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:38 PM

What is trichloroethylene?? Show me the stuff.  :P


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:45 PM

TCE was removed from CRC Brakleen years ago here - pity, it was perfect for motor cleaning by just submerging a running motor into it - it was inflammable.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:57 PM

Trichloroethylene


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:15 PM

Pure is available at most hobby shops that sell R/C car parts.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:23 PM

Duh! I should have realized it would be slots and R/C. Thanks, Tony.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:33 PM

 

Thanks, I've never heard of this.

 

Usual I clean motors with lighter fuel, sometimes acethone.

 

I'v seen one member use it in a box of water and some sort of soap (i am not sure what it is, kinda forgot).

 

And turning on it, make noise... bzzz bzzz... 15 min or more and it's all clean. Looks like dirt just fell apart from C-can/endbell.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:34 PM

Ultrasonic cleaner?

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:42 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:42 PM

Ultrasonic cleaner?

 

Yes, that's the one I'm trying to explain.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:43 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.

 

Well, I don't use acetone on plastic... mostly just on magnets. But I hardly use it, only lighter fuel.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:06 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.

 

It will also dissolve Krazy glues (cyanoacrylates).

 

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:11 PM

Ultrasonic cleaners typically only use water. Some are also UV capable.

 

InvisiClean UV-C Sanitizer and Ultrasonic Cleaner


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:14 PM

What the benefit of UV capable?
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:15 PM

Sanitization. They are used for other things than slot car stuff. LOL.

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:17 PM

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:12 PM

Once again the warning from years ago.

Using a flammable liquid for motor break -n or cleaning can be hazardous. Running a motor submerged in liquid will create bubbles, the bubbles contain the vapor state of the fluid which in general does not contain oxygen which can support ignition. However if the motor gets too close to the surface there can occur an interface of oxygen, fuel, and spark which results in a fire or explosion.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:32 PM

I use Simple Green in our ultrasonic cleaner for carbs (and chassis). I'm not sure about a motor?
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 06:49 PM

Scott from PCH has Pure on his website.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:38 PM

I use CRC Brakleen brake cleaner on mine. :)
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:17 PM

Years ago Champion sold their motor cleaner in a glass jar. Pretty much contained carbon tetrachloride. I see you can still buy the chemical online.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:44 PM

Years ago Champion sold their motor cleaner in a glass jar. Pretty much contained carbon tetrachloride. I see you can still buy the chemical online.

 
Cross postingsfrom HERE.
 

Champion Electro-Whirl Motor Cleaner from the mid-60's. Smelled like carbon tetrachloride.

 

Electro-Whirl. It was trichloroethylene... it worked really well. So well that it would suck the oil out of oilites so you didn't want to break in the motor with it…


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