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#1 SlowBeas

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:14 PM

My can of Pure cleaner just went kaput. So, I ran down to the automotive store to find another.

 

Couldn't find Pure, but I found one (made by EC, maybe?). I could almost swear I recall reading on the label that the spray contains TCE. Is that okay for use with our motors?

 

(Granted, I'll do what I can to prevent TCE's admission to the local water table or possibly ingesting/inhaling.)

 

What motor cleaner do you put your confidence in?


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:19 PM

Pure motor cleaner is a product only distributed to the slot car world, I'm pretty sure.
 
Substitute for Pure Performance motor cleaner?


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:20 PM

Trichloroethane? Trichloroethylene?

 

Unless that can is old I doubt it's either of the above since they were declared an ozone-depleting chemical in the '90s.... Chlorinated solvents have been under attack for a long time for either health or environmental issues...


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:25 PM

Trichloroethylene should be correct and yeah, I would surprised to find that chemical in a current cleaner on the shelf.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:38 PM

What is trichloroethylene?? Show me the stuff.  :P


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:45 PM

TCE was removed from CRC Brakleen years ago here - pity, it was perfect for motor cleaning by just submerging a running motor into it - it was inflammable.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:57 PM

Trichloroethylene


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:15 PM

Pure is available at most hobby shops that sell R/C car parts.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:23 PM

Duh! I should have realized it would be slots and R/C. Thanks, Tony.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:33 PM

 

Thanks, I've never heard of this.

 

Usual I clean motors with lighter fuel, sometimes acethone.

 

I'v seen one member use it in a box of water and some sort of soap (i am not sure what it is, kinda forgot).

 

And turning on it, make noise... bzzz bzzz... 15 min or more and it's all clean. Looks like dirt just fell apart from C-can/endbell.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:34 PM

Ultrasonic cleaner?

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:42 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:42 PM

Ultrasonic cleaner?

 

Yes, that's the one I'm trying to explain.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:43 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.

 

Well, I don't use acetone on plastic... mostly just on magnets. But I hardly use it, only lighter fuel.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:06 PM

I'd advise not using acetone, as it is a pretty powerful solvent. It will dissolve a lot of paints and many plastics.

 

It will also dissolve Krazy glues (cyanoacrylates).

 

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:11 PM

Ultrasonic cleaners typically only use water. Some are also UV capable.

 

InvisiClean UV-C Sanitizer and Ultrasonic Cleaner


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:14 PM

What the benefit of UV capable?
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:15 PM

Sanitization. They are used for other things than slot car stuff. LOL.

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:17 PM

:-)


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:12 PM

Once again the warning from years ago.

Using a flammable liquid for motor break -n or cleaning can be hazardous. Running a motor submerged in liquid will create bubbles, the bubbles contain the vapor state of the fluid which in general does not contain oxygen which can support ignition. However if the motor gets too close to the surface there can occur an interface of oxygen, fuel, and spark which results in a fire or explosion.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 03:32 PM

I use Simple Green in our ultrasonic cleaner for carbs (and chassis). I'm not sure about a motor?
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 06:49 PM

Scott from PCH has Pure on his website.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:38 PM

I use CRC Brakleen brake cleaner on mine. :)
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:17 PM

Years ago Champion sold their motor cleaner in a glass jar. Pretty much contained carbon tetrachloride. I see you can still buy the chemical online.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:44 PM

Years ago Champion sold their motor cleaner in a glass jar. Pretty much contained carbon tetrachloride. I see you can still buy the chemical online.

 
Cross postingsfrom HERE.
 

Champion Electro-Whirl Motor Cleaner from the mid-60's. Smelled like carbon tetrachloride.

 

Electro-Whirl. It was trichloroethylene... it worked really well. So well that it would suck the oil out of oilites so you didn't want to break in the motor with it…


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:08 AM

Since Bob's R/C cleaner disappeared with the dingos, I have been using CRC QD contact cleaner. They sell it in small or big cans and it works great. Does not seem to harm the comms and just cleans out the gunk.

 

Do not use the regular contact cleaner as it takes forever to dry and seems to have oil in it.


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 10:14 AM

Home Depot, CRC QD Contact Cleaner, $6.95 a can, works great and easy to find.


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:10 PM

Don't laugh - hot water and dawn soap works too...


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Posted 21 December 2016 - 12:16 PM

Tetrachloroethylene...CRC Lectra-Motive cleaner.

 

It helps to take a second look at the can. Not actually TCE, as I had originally thought.

 

Still, it's carcinogenic and a danger to water supplies. Will use with care.

 

Thanks for all the input. And I might still simply buy another can of Pure anyway.

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 07:24 AM

Some electronic contact cleaners contain a lubricant. Make sure the one you choose does not.


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:00 PM

Here is what i use. Very affordable, no residue , fast drying with no chlorinated solvents.

  • Quick drying, plastic safe formula leaves no residue
  • Ideal for applications where lower flashpoing materials can be tolerate

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:47 PM

i just pulled the MSDS for both CRC electromotive cleaner and QD Electronic cleaner. 

 

CRC Electromotive uses  Tetrachloroethylene (used for dry cleaning), which is a carcinogen that  increases the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and colorblindness. 

 

CRC QD cleaner has Naphtha,  Difuoroethane, n-Hexane, 2,2-Dimethylbutane (), and 2-Methylpentane. 

 

Id take my chances with the QD


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Posted 27 December 2016 - 09:40 AM

Well, guess using the regular contact cleaner explains my propensity to Marshall with shades on. The regular CRC stuff does leave an oily film. Still conductive but greasy.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 11:25 AM

Which crc stuff?

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 11:40 AM

The lectra-motive cleaner. The electric motor and parts cleaner, not the qd contact cleaner. The qd stuff is made for switches while the other stuff is supposed to be for motors. Our stuff uses the contact cleaner to clean our motors.

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 11:56 AM

we are talking about 12 dollar motors LOL 


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Posted 27 December 2016 - 11:59 AM

Well JJ, I know a buddy of ours who used brake cleen to clean a motor. Really trashed it. Besides, I use the same cleaner for all my stuff, gr12 on down. I know it is excessive, but simple. Besides, the lectra-motive cleaner does not do as great a job as the qd stuff.

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 10:06 PM

I use the plastic safe crc contact cleaner in all of my brushed motors and brushless for rc planes. Doesn't leave residue and works great!

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 06:21 AM

Another vote for CRC QD here.

 

I've used if for years with good results and no negative issues.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:13 PM

Well JJ, I know a buddy of ours who used brake cleen to clean a motor. Really trashed it. Besides, I use the same cleaner for all my stuff, gr12 on down. I know it is excessive, but simple. Besides, the lectra-motive cleaner does not do as great a job as the qd stuff.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 05:27 PM

You must have some weak brake kleen.  The stuff trashed the seals, pulled epoxy off the arm and even took some of the epoxy off the winds.  Brakekleen is very strong stuff and will remove hardened paint if used.  Remember, this stuff is used to remove brake dust without a brush, so it is really aggressive.  It has been awhile, but I also want to say it loosened the comm.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:13 PM

Some time ago the brake cleaners were aggressive chlorinated hydrocarbons (carcinogenic but not flammable) - now they contain acetone and toluene, still pretty potent solvents (flammable)  to attack paint for instance.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 06:42 PM

 It has been awhile, but I also want to say it loosened the comm.

 

Nice, easy way to retime an armature.


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 03:21 PM

honest-to-goodness BraKlean is some pretty serious stuff. but it's my still my go-to when I Really want to dissolve something hydrocarbonic. just like Pure.

nowadays you have to look pretty hard to find it because of the environment and all, but I don't believe that the amount that we use has a very large impact.  

plus, if you sprayed That much of it around,

a.] you'd run out pretty fast, and

b.] a lot of plastic things that you cared about might be melted. (nylon, bakelite and engineering plastics excepted.)

 

I put a rag in my wastebasket when I spray a motor or something to try to recover some of it and have a couple small things lined up waiting to be wiped down- no sense wasting any before it evaporates! 

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