Jump to content




Photo

Champion "Desperado" in desperate shape!


  • Please log in to reply
45 replies to this topic

#1 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 26 December 2016 - 05:47 PM

I was searching the eBay automotive models and came accross this picture:
 
ebay%20desperado-2.jpg
 
I wonder what in the heck it was so I opened the listing up:
 
ebay%20desperado-1.jpg
 
This was listed under the "Truck" section for $10 with no bids. A few days later it was mine for $13.27... well almost mine. It still had to be shipped to me. The seller didn't make that easy when he only put down a 4 digit zip code.  :wacko2:
 
For over a week I watched the tracking info as the package went back and forth all over Oregon. :dash2:
 
Here it is on my workbench in its re-purposed shipping container:
 
Bandito%20001.jpg
 
Bandito%20004.jpg
 
Bandito%20003.jpg
 
This 1977 Champion ad says a #127 is a Gp27 motor with a heat sink:
 
Desperado%20Ad.jpg
 
Here's what came out of the box:
 
Bandito%20005.jpg
 
Looks like the body had a nice factory paint job on it. Too bad the owner decided to paint it flat black on the outside:
 
Bandito%20008.jpg
 
First inspection and the motor looks like it might be a GP15 instead of a GP27, unbalanced with no heat sink:
 
Bandito%20007.jpg
 
We'll see when I tear it apart... if it doesn't fall apart first! :laugh2:
 
Bandito%20006.jpg
 
Wish me luck!  :D
  • slotbaker, Jencar17, Tex and 3 others like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...





#2 Pablo

Pablo

    Builder

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,114 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Johnson Bayou

Posted 26 December 2016 - 05:54 PM

I'll bet the seller will want it back after you fix it. :roflmao:
Paul Wolcott

#3 SlotStox#53

SlotStox#53

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,784 posts
  • Joined: 13-March 13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:TX

Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:06 PM

What a bargain/steal and great find in the wrong section. :D

#4 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:11 PM

Yes, I was surprised to find it as I searched for an interesting model kit to make up a new hardbody slot car.


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#5 Samiam

Samiam

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,814 posts
  • Joined: 18-January 12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, NY

Posted 26 December 2016 - 06:36 PM

Rick,
 
Can we call you "The Bandito" ?
 
Nice score.
Sam Levitch
 
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything is a nail.
Support your local raceway, or you won't have one.
Slot cars are quad-pods.
Support your "Local Racer."
:laugh2:

#6 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 26 December 2016 - 07:27 PM

BanditoLogo.jpg
 
I love Mexican food... and beer! But it seems my "Bandito" GP27 marked box contains a "Lawman" GP15 motor. :o
 
Bandito%20010.jpg
 
Bandito%20011.jpg
 
Bandito%20013.jpg
 
Unbalanced non-tagged arm:
 
Bandito%20014.jpg
 
We have a need to clean:
 
Bandito%20009.jpg
  • Jencar17 and Samiam like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#7 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 26 December 2016 - 07:41 PM

I have a later (1979) Champion "Desperado" that I restored a while back.

Don't have your cool box though.... Can I have it?
 
IMG_1834-vi.jpg

If you need a new body, Parma actually sells this one. Yours however I am not sure is actually Champion.  

http://parmapse.shpt...-010-body?pp=15
  • Jencar17 likes this

Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#8 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 27 December 2016 - 05:25 PM

Okay Rick, I have blown up and examined the bodies in your advertisement. I believe the body you have is the third from the left.

The first and the fourth are the body I linked to.

As for which motor you want... just have John wind you a new 27 arm.
 
Watching updates with interest. :)

Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#9 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 27 December 2016 - 09:01 PM

Hi Jairus,
 
Yes, I believe it is the third body form the left in the ad also, especially when you look at the bottom of the body. It's painted in the same paint scheme, white rectangle around the drivers compartment.

I have an idea for a motor, too.  :crazy:

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#10 Mbloes

Mbloes

    On The Lead Lap

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 450 posts
  • Joined: 19-April 12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Los Angeles, CA

Posted 28 December 2016 - 04:36 PM

Nice chassis with the straight rails in back but still with a drop arm before they went to the full one-piece.


Mike Bloes

#11 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 28 December 2016 - 07:59 PM

Hi Mike,
 
Your description of the chassis is what drew me to it. I like the built-up rails instead of just a big hunk of sheet metal.
 
I found some heat sinks similar to the ones used on the G27 and G40 cars so I went ahead and restored the endbell using them:
 
Bandito%208.jpg
 
Everything cleaned up nicely:
 
Bandito%205.jpg
 
I've got the chassis squeeky clean and ready to go into the jig for repair. Both the front and rear axle tubes are broken loose on one side and all the solder joints have been user repaired... so to speak.  :o
 
Bandito%203.jpg
 
I'm guessing this motor brace could be factory since it seems to be an early Champion Arco magnet clip:
 
Bandito%207.jpg
 
Here's where the motor can paint was removed prior to soldering it in. Maybe it was hit with a belt sander???
 
Bandito%204.jpg
 
I'll scan more of the 1977 Champion catalog that shows pictures of the parts that went into the car soon...
  • Jencar17 likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#12 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:14 PM

I dug through my armatures and came up with some posibilities. These most likely wouldn't have come with the car from Champion but I'm looking for user replacements that could have been used in the day.

 

None of these arms have been reconditioned yet but here they are:

 

First is an absolutely lovely hand wound arm with what looks like a "C27" tag. Is it really a "G27" tag with the "C gone bad"? Anyone got any ideas?

 

Desperado%20Arms%20003.jpg

 

Next is an arm marked REHCO S26. The Champion catalog says the Group 40 car had a single 26 wire armature:

 

Desperado%20Arms%20013.jpg

 

This one is marked VUL (Vulcan?) S26:

 

Desperado%20Arms%20011.jpg

 

It might be hand wound too:

 

Desperado%20Arms%20010.jpg

 

Any ideas?


  • Jencar17 likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#13 tonyp

tonyp

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,363 posts
  • Joined: 12-February 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sanford, FL, land of lizards and big roaches

Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:32 PM

Isn't a Vulcan a Lee Gilbert armature?

"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

1965 "Evil Bucks Racer" Team
Revtech Team Trinity
Noose Painted Bodies
Retro East co-founder
American King track single lap world record holder & 40 minute total lap record
First IM Nationals Champion
Arco Champion
Car Model Magazine Series Amateur Champion
2016 ORS Anglewinder Constructors Championsh
ip


#14 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,176 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:45 PM

Rick,

That first arm has been balanced by Camen (purple paint on the comm end of the stack). C27 could mean Camen 27.

I thought Vulcan was a name Mura once used on their open class arms. I have a Vulcan 26 that I used to run on relatively short tracks, such as E. Hartford and Hampton Beach.

As I recall, the Vulcans weren't a hand-wound arm.

Bill Fernald

Used puppets for sale!

No springs attached.


#15 tonyp

tonyp

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,363 posts
  • Joined: 12-February 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sanford, FL, land of lizards and big roaches

Posted 29 December 2016 - 09:04 AM

OK, guess I was mistaken. Too much eggnog. LOL.

"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

1965 "Evil Bucks Racer" Team
Revtech Team Trinity
Noose Painted Bodies
Retro East co-founder
American King track single lap world record holder & 40 minute total lap record
First IM Nationals Champion
Arco Champion
Car Model Magazine Series Amateur Champion
2016 ORS Anglewinder Constructors Championsh
ip


#16 MSwiss

MSwiss

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Advertiser
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,425 posts
  • Joined: 16-April 06
  • Gender:Male

Posted 29 December 2016 - 09:34 AM

Tony,
I also thought there was a Lee Gilbert connection to the Vulcan name.

From OWH:
Bob Green was the backbone of Mura in its later years winding his "Vulcan" custom winds. One contributor and user of arms was Lee Gilbert who gave his feedback of what worked and how to improve things. Lee said the Mura "Vulcan" name came from the Star Trek series as it was popular at the time and since the couldn't think of anything that sounded catchy for a product name "Vulcan" sounded good as any for a name.

post-3-127629167353.jpg


  • Jencar17 likes this

Mike Swiss
 
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990)
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder (pointless era - LOL) 
17B West Ogden AveWestmont, IL 60559, ( 708) 203-8003
mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address) 
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 5858 Chase Ave., Downers Grove, IL 60516
Make checks out to Chicagoland Woodworking, Inc.


#17 zipper

zipper

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 501 posts
  • Joined: 11-August 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Finland

Posted 29 December 2016 - 10:05 AM

I do have one Vulcan #25. It's definitely hand-wound but not as neat as Steube and especially Camen (Pooch) arms.
Pekka Sippola

#18 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,176 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 29 December 2016 - 10:35 AM

Tony,

You were right and I was wrong. My excuse for that is I've had a few more years than you to forget. :shout:  

The one I own is wound ugly. makes me glad I didn't buy more.

Bill Fernald

Used puppets for sale!

No springs attached.


#19 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 29 December 2016 - 07:09 PM

Thanks for the input. :D

 

I found two pages in the 1977 Champion catalog price list of Mura motors and parts including references to Vulcan, Vulcan II, and
"hand wound" Bob Green Vulcan arms... interesting.

 

Here are some pages I scanned from the catalog:

 

1977 Champion Catalog0004.jpg

 

1977 Champion Catalog0001.jpg

 

1977 Champion Catalog0002.jpg

 

1977 Champion Catalog0005.jpg

 

1977 Champion Catalog0003.jpg

 

1977 Champion Catalog0006.jpg


  • Cheater, Jairus, slotbaker and 5 others like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#20 tonyp

tonyp

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,363 posts
  • Joined: 12-February 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sanford, FL, land of lizards and big roaches

Posted 30 December 2016 - 09:39 AM

Carl Ford wound a good armatures. Very competitive on the east coast.


"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

1965 "Evil Bucks Racer" Team
Revtech Team Trinity
Noose Painted Bodies
Retro East co-founder
American King track single lap world record holder & 40 minute total lap record
First IM Nationals Champion
Arco Champion
Car Model Magazine Series Amateur Champion
2016 ORS Anglewinder Constructors Championsh
ip


#21 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,176 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 30 December 2016 - 01:11 PM

I have a new Carl Ford 25S that I've never had in a setup.


Bill Fernald

Used puppets for sale!

No springs attached.


#22 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 30 December 2016 - 01:26 PM

I wonder what was used in "Group 40" motors? I know they were S26 arms but were they tagged or just engraved on the lams? Was it any wind with 26 wire or???
 
I've never seen much about Gp40 like I have about the other classes...

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#23 MSwiss

MSwiss

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Advertiser
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,425 posts
  • Joined: 16-April 06
  • Gender:Male

Posted 30 December 2016 - 02:21 PM

I never heard about Group 40 at all, until this thread.
 
I had almost zero exposure to slot racing from 1974 to late 1981.

Mike Swiss
 
IRRA® Components Committee Chairman
Five-time USRA National Champion (two G7, one G27, two G7 Senior)
Two-time G7 World Champion (1988, 1990)
Eight-time G7 King track single lap world record holder (pointless era - LOL) 
17B West Ogden AveWestmont, IL 60559, ( 708) 203-8003
mikeswiss86@hotmail.com (also my PayPal address) 
Note: Send all USPS packages and mail to: 5858 Chase Ave., Downers Grove, IL 60516
Make checks out to Chicagoland Woodworking, Inc.


#24 tonyp

tonyp

    Grand Champion Poster

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,363 posts
  • Joined: 12-February 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sanford, FL, land of lizards and big roaches

Posted 30 December 2016 - 03:21 PM

No idea what Gp40 was. Maybe something Champion made up to sell a car.

"And if my thought-dreams could be seen they'd probably put my head in a guillotine. But it's alright, Ma, it's life, and life only." - Dylan

1965 "Evil Bucks Racer" Team
Revtech Team Trinity
Noose Painted Bodies
Retro East co-founder
American King track single lap world record holder & 40 minute total lap record
First IM Nationals Champion
Arco Champion
Car Model Magazine Series Amateur Champion
2016 ORS Anglewinder Constructors Championsh
ip


#25 zipper

zipper

    Race Leader

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 501 posts
  • Joined: 11-August 10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Finland

Posted 30 December 2016 - 03:37 PM

Re Group 40:

Champion Group 20 and derivatives/
  • Cheater likes this
Pekka Sippola

#26 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 30 December 2016 - 05:32 PM

I reread the thread and one person seems to remember a tagged GP40 arm and another person remembers an arm with no tag but the stack engraved S26. So we seem to be back where we left off... :unknw:

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#27 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 31 December 2016 - 09:30 PM

Here's the finished chassis. I lightened it up as much as possible:
 
Bandito%2030.jpg
 
Just kidding!  :crazy:
 
The chassis had user soldered and broken joints on the front and rear axle tubes and the front tube was bent so I removed and repaired the tubes as shown above.
 
Here's the repaired chassis. It's probably in better shape now than when it was new. It's nice and flat and squared up:
 
Bandito%2024.jpg
 
Bandito%2022.jpg
 
The original Jet flag and 220v high voltage cables are being replaced with the new old stock parts on the left:
 
Bandito%2028.jpg
 
The original tires were toast but the wheels weren't bent so were cleaned up and new rubber rounded up:
 
Bandito%2029.jpg
 
Here they are with the fresh Riggen rubber mounted and ground. Also shown is a new gear to replace the original chewed up Cobra 34t and the polished-up original rear axle:
 
Bandito%2027.jpg
 
The factory bead blasted front wheels got the rims polished to bling them up a bit:
 
Bandito%2025.jpg
 
So, now I have to decide what arm to stuff in my set-up...


  • slotbaker, Jencar17 and Geary Carrier like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#28 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,176 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 31 December 2016 - 10:28 PM

Rick, are the chassis mainrails two .063" piano wire? That's what they look like in the photos.


Bill Fernald

Used puppets for sale!

No springs attached.


#29 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:42 PM

They sure are, Bill... good eye!


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#30 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 02 January 2017 - 07:26 PM

The CEE can's paint was stripped and the areas to be soldered during motor installation tinned with solder and masked for painting:
 
Bandito%2031.jpg
 
The finished can with a few coats of Krylon semi-gloss black:
 
Bandito%2026.jpg
 
I decided to use the GP27 arm since my factory box is marked for a GP27.
Here is the lovely Camen hand would GP27 arm I showed earlier. I gave it a light comm trim and a fresh coat of Camen purple arm dye:
 
Bandito%2034.jpg
 
The finished motor:
 
Bandito%2035.jpg
 
I installed a comm cooler because I think they look cool. It can easily be removed if a future owner doesn't like it:
 
Bandito%2036.jpg
 
The Champion White Dot magnets and factory 9t pinion were reused:
 
Bandito%2037.jpg
 
I love the way a purple-dyed arm looks in a black setup :crazy:
 
Bandito%2038.jpg
 
Time to put all the pieces into one lump and get it on the track...
  • slotbaker, Jencar17 and Samiam like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#31 Phil Donaldson

Phil Donaldson

    Backmarker

  • Full Member
  • PipPip
  • 62 posts
  • Joined: 09-January 08
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Columbus, OH

Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:05 PM

I just saw this post and I believe I can be of some help.
 
p1.jpg

p2.jpg

The armature with the C27 tag is a Mura Cheetah Grp 27.

p3.jpg

This armature is a Champion Grp 27.

p4.jpg

This armature is a Camen Grp 27.
  • proptop, Jencar17 and MSwiss like this

Team Trend


#32 Pablo

Pablo

    Builder

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,114 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Johnson Bayou

Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:37 PM

Beyond awesome, Rick. The Slotblog police limit emoticons to three, so I won't even try.

Stunning X5, I absolutely love it
  • Taylor Davis likes this
Paul Wolcott

#33 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 03 January 2017 - 11:24 AM

Thanks, Pablo!
 
Phil, thanks for the armature pictures. Mine looks like it could be a Mura-Bob Green handwound arm. Whatever it is I think it's a nice upgrade for the Bandito.
 
Thanks again.
  • Phil Donaldson likes this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#34 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:16 PM

The roller is finished and has seen a little track time, too:
 
Bandito%2046.jpg
 
Another look at where it started:
 
Bandito%20007.jpg
 
And all freshened up:
 
Bandito%2048.jpg
 
Bandito%2040.jpg
 
Bandito%2041.jpg
 
Bandito%2042.jpg
 
Something really cool is being worked on for this cars body. Stay tuned!  :)


  • Cheater, slotbaker, Jencar17 and 3 others like this

Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#35 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:39 PM

Sweet!   :good: 

So... how's it handle?

I am guessing that lowering the gear ratio might improve lap times for these older motors.


Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#36 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:15 PM

It's handles a little loose mainly because of the orange tires along with my very lightly glued track. I'd love to see it on a clean and freshly spray-glued blue King. :dance3:


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#37 Mbloes

Mbloes

    On The Lead Lap

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 450 posts
  • Joined: 19-April 12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Los Angeles, CA

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:47 PM

Something really cool is being worked on for this cars body. Stay tuned!  :)

 
Bodies are the best part.


Mike Bloes

#38 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:58 PM

Painting bodies is my favorite part, too... but I love the look of brass, steel, and wire when a chassis is done well even better.


  • NSwanberg likes this

Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#39 Pablo

Pablo

    Builder

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 12,114 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Johnson Bayou

Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:32 AM

My favorite visual parts are the purple arm/comm cooler dye and the low CG curved brace.  :heart:


Paul Wolcott

#40 Bill from NH

Bill from NH

    Age scrubs away speed!

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,176 posts
  • Joined: 02-August 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Boston, NH

Posted 06 January 2017 - 07:52 AM

You didn't include the Cobra gear? I'm waiting to see if the body is primarily painted purple, too. :)


Bill Fernald

Used puppets for sale!

No springs attached.


#41 TSR

TSR

    The Dokktor is IN

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 41,321 posts
  • Joined: 02-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mexifornia

Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:36 PM

Rick,

 

Superb job as usual from the best of pro cars builders.

 

Here is the original item as offered by Champion:

ch155.jpg

 

ch155_1.jpg

 

ch155_2.jpg

ch155_5.jpg

They should have hired you!  :)


  • Cheater, Jencar17 and Phil Donaldson like this

Philippe de Lespinay
 
"We are the D..., uh, the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile"


#42 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 06 January 2017 - 08:42 PM

I've seen that reproduced somewhere recently... 


Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#43 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 06 January 2017 - 10:23 PM

Hi Philippe,

 

Scott gets all the neat stuff!   :wub:    And I'm glad he does as that's what makes LASCM so great.  :D

 

I do enjoy trying to restore an almost "lost cause" car when I have the parts and I think I do it some justice.

 

Thank you very much for the neat pictures!

 

Jairus, it's like deja vu all over again as I think I've seen that body somewhere, too.  :shok:


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...


#44 Jairus

Jairus

    Body Painter Extraordinaire

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,020 posts
  • Joined: 16-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Salem, OR

Posted 06 January 2017 - 10:45 PM

Found one:

Champion '34 Ford Coupe

Jairus H Watson - Artist
Need something painted, soldered, carved, or killed? - jairuswtsn@aol.com

www.slotcarsmag.com

www.jairuswatson.net
http://www.ratholecustoms.com
Check out some of the cool stuff on my Fotki!


#45 Mike Patterson

Mike Patterson

    Village Luddite™

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,873 posts
  • Joined: 14-October 07
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Zanesville, OH

Posted 07 January 2017 - 10:46 PM

Sorry to be late (again!) to the party, but THIS is the arm you have. It's definitely a Mura.
 
Nice restoration! :good:


  • Phil Donaldson likes this

We all need to believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.


#46 dc-65x

dc-65x

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,915 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Captain Rick: The only vintage slot car nut in SW Oregon?

Posted 08 January 2017 - 12:48 AM

Boy, it sure looks like it to me. Thanks Mike. :)


Rick Thigpen
Check out Steve Okeefe's great web site at its new home here at Slotblog:
The Independent Scratchbuilder
There's much more to come...






Electric Dreams Online Shop