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#1 Pablo

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 03:57 PM

This monster Cadillac is a Don Campbell Racing product, DC1510, Brand-X.
No idea what I'm going to do with it yet, other than install a very powerful motor and a pair of dice. :)
Width is about 3" and the wheel wells don't allow anything to extend out - is this a drag body?
 
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Posted 31 December 2016 - 04:38 PM

That car has got to be black with a hot C-can motor!  :sarcastic_hand:  FYI Don used Lexan for his bodies, not PETG. I have a couple DCR T-birds from the late '90 ands didn't recall what they were made from, so I PM'd Don to find out.

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 04:55 PM

Thanks, Bill. It's really crispy clean so no doubt you are right - it's Lexan.

The big question in my mind is, drag car, or Thingie, or ??

The wheels have to fit under the wells and that would be <3" - like 2-7/8"??
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Posted 31 December 2016 - 05:31 PM

I never saw anyone drag race 4.5" cars, but I haven't seen everything yet. JK had the Cadzilla, maybe this is Don's update. Don also made a school bus at one time. I think that one was a drag vehicle. I don't see a rear spoiler, a chopped top, or any scoops on this one, so I'd rule out it being a drag car.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 05:34 PM

Got to be a drag car... Pablo...!!!
 
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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:46 AM

Multie color metalflake lowrider.

 

If anyone can figure out how to put lifts in a slot car, it's you. I'll put my Steube Gr. 20 in my Cadzilla and race you to the woodshed.   :sarcastic_hand: :friends:


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:53 AM

With a wheel width of less than 3" I don't see it being a real good road course car...

 

Everything I know about drag racing slot cars will fit on the head of a pin.

 

I looked in the Rules Library - so many acronyms. Gary, where can I find them please?


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 10:11 AM

Pablo,

 

A Retro Stock Car is 4.5 wheelbase and maximum 3 inch track and they handle great!! And that body is probably lower!


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:39 PM

I see your point, Mike, and I'll take that into consideration.

It is actually just a hair lower than a Retro stocker body and I may be able to lower it even more.

 

But, look at the wheel well cut lines - designed to have the wheels inside the skirts. To prevent them from binding under flex I'd have to make the widths about 2-7/8".

 

Or cut the wells, which would destroy the "look" of the body IMO.

 

Also, Retro stockers aren't being pushed by heavy, gear stripping powerful rewound motors.

 

Not arguin' - just sayin'.  :)


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:35 PM

Love it!  Make sure you hit it with some chrome foil.

 

Not to hijack your thread but maybe this will give you ideas.

 

And what kind of lunatic would make a slot car out of a Caddy  :crazy: Not finished yet but there is much more work than meets the eye here.

 

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ONWARD and Happy New Year  :victory:

 

 


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:43 PM

Multie color metal flake low rider. If anyone can figure out how to put lifts in a slot car it's you. I'll put my Stuby Gr. 20 in my Cadzilla and race you to the wood shed.   :sarcastic_hand: :friends:

 

Red, you are (almost) as certifiable as I am, that's why I love ya :good:

Metalflake low rider, concur. I also like Bill's idea of black - very gangster. Lifts - no.

I don't think Bill Steube ever made a G20 arm, dude. If I'm wrong, Bill will tell me.  :)

Trip to the woodshed won't work - lowriders don't handle bumps too well.  :laugh2:

 

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:52 PM

Hi Pablo

 

In the GSRA club, Drag rules are loose.

Chassis can't drag track... Wheels need to fit in wheel wells and under body .

Otherwise, inline or anglewinder, 48p or 64p, 1/8" or 3/32".

 

Make it up as you go... ;-)

 

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:56 PM

Thanks, Joe L. :good:  You know you can hijack my threads any time.  :)

 

Just looking for ideas at this point...


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 05:00 PM

Gary, I've no idea what GSRA is.

 

If the rules are as loose as you say, how can a guy running a 1970 Ford Pinto with a stock Deathstar beat a G7 motor in a rail car?

 

Surely there must be some governing rules as far as classes and motors?


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 05:25 PM

Bracket racing?


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Posted 01 January 2017 - 07:20 PM

I found some drag rules here:

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 07:42 PM

Pablo,

Bill Steube wound both Grp. 20 and 22 arms. I have one Grp. 20 and two Grp. 22s. I don't recall running the Grp. 20, but I've won open class wing races with the Grp. 22s. They are fast, low power arms. For a drag motor, you could get Havlicek to build you a high-timed Grp. 20 arm, then put it in a C-can set-up.
 
Most lowriders are equipped with an air lift supension of some type. All the real lowriders I've seen in this area have a compressor and such a suspension. No, they aren't used to plow snow in the wintertime. :laugh2:

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:01 PM

Thanks, Bill. I knew I wasn't that crazy. At least this time. :wacko2:

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 08:04 PM

Pablo,

Got any high-timed X12 arms? If not, I might have an older RJR X12 that is.

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Posted 01 January 2017 - 09:17 PM

Cool-looking shell from Don.  :D

Maybe such a large car demands a hot big block? Get John to create a high-timed phat wire 36D with a set of Arcos perhaps?

Rick did a fabulous anglewinder 36D under a stock car body. I know this will be way narrower but I'm sure you could create a great handling inline. :)
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Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:25 AM

OK I stand corrected on the Steube arms, thanks, Bill.

Yes, I have some X12 arms and yes I have an H-Power 36D.
 
All I need to do is make up my mind which direction to go...
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Posted 02 January 2017 - 10:18 AM

Use a hot 36D as Paul suggested, it'll fit fine. Finding 36D Arcos may be difficult and expensive, unless you already have them, but John may know of alternatives. Too bad you couldn't find one of the Monty O. rewound 36Ds he use to build for BPR hardbody racing.


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 10:24 AM

It's just an opinion, but a 36D from John in a NASCAR Cadillac would be really cool. 


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:57 PM

The H Power 36D motor is already built - along with other "gear-stripping powerful" motors tucked away in my boxes of horrors.  :o

 

The (1/1) Cadillacs of that era were amazing vehicles and the (government bailout) ones they build nowadays are pure junk, IMO.

 

I'll be giving this one my full attention soon... meantime, some Caddy theme music:

 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 03:16 PM

That body appears to be about a '63. Back in the day there was a fella who went by "Black Bart", and ran a '63 Caddy CDV at the local dragstrips. The car was painted either flat black, or what we called Hot Rod Primer. I got up against him once in my '63 Fury, and was thinking I was going to blow his doors off. And was sure of it until the last 100 feet when he blew by me in the traps.

If you could find a picture, it might be something to model.





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