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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:41 PM

This Dynamic Lola T70 body, painted by Joe Neumeister for the 1968 NY Arco race as a prize, was found in the basement of Bob Emott's house in Florham, NJ,  just hours before the wrecking ball demolished it. Bob likely won that body.

Unfortunately and over the years, it sat covered with something heavy and besides a couple of cracks, was pretty much looking as having been run over by a steamroller by the time it got to the LASCM.

 

What to do, what to do?

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Well, to save it, the best way is to... reform it! Fortunately I had an untrimmed Electric Dreams identical body made from an original mold, complete with a stiff base allowing it to remain stiff.

 

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So the old Noose body was simply wrapped around the new one, and can be displayed at the museum as is, even possibly inside a Lucite box.

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Now we await for Noose to tell us the story behind this survivor... :)


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:44 PM

Ask Tony. I can't remember. LMAO.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:50 PM

I don't remember. LOL.

 

Looks cool considering Noose was like six when he painted it. LOL.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:51 PM

Probably around 14 or 15. My height was about that of s six-year old though. LOL.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:53 PM

Yes, I can't remember that much of what i was doing when I was six myself...  :laugh2:

 

Anyway, is this the oldest known survivor painted by our in-house artist? I had just retrieved another from the collection for Joe, sent to Bob Rule in hope of getting a massive order.

 

Not sure if it worked, but Bob did keep it and did not sit on it!  :D

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It's a copy of a Russkit Elfin made by Mini Wheels...

 

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Posted 18 January 2017 - 07:59 PM

Seriously cool trip down memory lane and history!! That Russkit Elfin sure looks cool, repop? :D


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 09:47 PM

I think Barry D might have one or some of mine that are older.


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Posted 18 January 2017 - 11:13 PM

Looks like Emott won the "Sportsmanship Award" that day, and in fact, likely every day he was inside a raceway!  :)



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Posted 19 January 2017 - 07:14 AM

Absolutely.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:41 PM

OT Philippe, does ED still have that Lola body?  I didn't see it listed on their website.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:44 PM

Body is not a repop. It was original by russkit and mini wheels copied it way back then. I don't think anyone has repoped it


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 12:45 PM

Body is not a repop. It was original by russkit and mini wheels copied it way back then. I don't think anyone has repoped it


 

Dilworth has done an Elfin. I have painted several of them.


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Posted 19 January 2017 - 01:15 PM

Should of been clearer, was asking for someone to repop it :) Good to hear John has done an Elfin :D

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 02:40 PM

Mike is asking about the Lola body.

The Electric Dreams/Dynamic Lola T70 appears to be out of stock at this time. This is why it would not show on the Electric Dreams online catalogue. The one I used in my pictures is one of two samples I keep on file.

The Elfin is a cool body, we have this one at the LASCM, a genuine Russkit body, that eventually will be affixed to a replica chassis of the car that was underneath and was raced in 1969 at the Tottenham Open in London.

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Noose helped by painting the details on this beautiful replica. We also have the McLaren that is next to it on the magazine cover. It is a British made body.

None of the Mini Wheels bodies, copied from various other manufacturers, were replicated. Today the intact survivors are true rarities.

 


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Posted 20 January 2017 - 10:10 PM

Well, Barry D did have some of mine from the '60s.

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 11:25 PM

Oldies for sure. Airline emergency info placard from the seat back pocket for a diaplane. Very cool. MYCAAT.

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 11:29 PM

Joe, t

The two bodies shown are from 1969 (Champion McLaren and Boss Mustang), so that '68 Lola T70 body you painted is the oldest survivor that has surfaced so far.

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 11:32 PM

Back then I believe it was still a Waters McLaren. But you are the expert. LOL.

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 11:41 PM

Tony, either Champion bought the mold and erased their names, or just backpoured one... in any case it is exactly the same body.

Charlie Waters and Dave also made a Porsche 908 and a Lola T160, and somehow Champion also has the exact same ones... so not sure of what happened there but I think that Bob Rule may have bought their molds.

Some of that info is lost for eternity because... Bob Rule does not remember and Carl Ford did not know, but did have the McLaren mold (not the others).

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 11:45 PM

From what I do remember, Charlie sold the molds to Champion after his son lost interest in racing. The Champion Ferrari was was also a Bloom Waters body.

Barry never raced except one or two times after Nutley moved, and that was when bodies were still Waters.

There was a McLaren coupe Charlie made that looked like a spaceship which everyone used the day I broke the blue King track world record in Conn with a Russkit Mantis that has never surfaced.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:05 AM

Looks like he had one more. Not lettered but my little noose over on the passenger side.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:03 AM

Back then it was all Floquil and Ulrich paints.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 11:43 AM

What body is that, and how come it's not in Barry's colors?

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 01:25 PM

No clue what it is. Some sort of Lola for sure. Must have had it and he needed a body. Thus no lettering.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 04:49 PM

That's a 1969 Dynamic Lola T163.  Not too many of these were made.
 

From what I do remember, Charlie sold the molds to Champion after his son lost interest in racing. The Champion Ferrari was was also a Bloom Waters body.

Barry never raced except one or two times after Nutley moved, and that was when bodies were still Waters.

There was a McLaren coupe Charlie made that looked like a spaceship which everyone used the day I broke the blue King track world record in Conn with a Russkit Mantis that has never surfaced.

 
That makes sense. The McLaren Mk 6 coupe, I have seen before. It was a pretty wild looking thingie!

 

The Russkit Marcos Mantis body comes up here and there, rare but not impossible to find.

 

Too bad your car disappeared...



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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:46 PM

I'm sure I took it apart to build something else like we used to do back then. I do remember what it looked like. LOL.


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:51 PM

Maybe get Noose to do a Marcos? :D

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

Looks like Parma is making the Russkit Marcos body?

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:58 PM

Yeah, I think they have the original mold maybe?

I remember seeing the Russkit Dune Buggy mold, too.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:25 PM

I didn't know Parma had the Russkit dune buggy as well? Cool!

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 11:19 PM

Tony and others have Marcos Mantis bodies I have done.

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 08:27 AM

Here are some Marco Mantis I have done.

 

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 10:11 AM

Russkit also had a 1/32 Cro-Sal McKee wedge body which was the preferred body in 1/32 circles in Cincinnati. I believe there was also a 1/24 version of it from Russkit.

 

Quite a legacy the Russkit family of products left. The Russkit controller is still the preferred hand controller "form" and has been for decades. It has morphed into several versions in other formats such as home set and R/C.



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 09:49 PM

Steve, that's correct, Russkit had both the 1/24 and 1/32 scale McKee 'wedge' Can Am bodies.

The 1/24 scale was never used in a kit or RTR, but the 1/32 scale was offered in RTR form by Russkit, then by... Parma when they purchased the remaining inventories from Russell.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:32 AM

Yes, I can't remember that much of what i was doing when I was six myself...  :laugh2:

 

Anyway, is this the oldest known survivor painted by our in-house artist? I had just retrieved another from the collection for Joe, sent to Bob Rule in hope of getting a massive order.

 

Not sure if it worked, but Bob did keep it and did not sit on it!  :D

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It's a copy of a Russkit Elfin made by Mini Wheels...

 

:shok:

 

This was actually a Champion version of he Elfin which makes sense now seeing I did it for Bob Rule.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:35 AM

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:39 AM

PDL,

 

I seem to recall that Russkit also had an Elfin in this series of bodies or is my memory misfiring? It was kind of a low profile wedgy looking thing. I remember seeing race reports with the likes of Mike Morrissey using them.



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Posted 26 January 2017 - 09:40 AM

Russkit had the original one.


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Posted 26 January 2017 - 01:46 PM

I think that Champion somehow inherited the Russkit mold when Russell liquidated Russkit in 1969, or purchased their bodies from him (as Champion did wit several other companies). Because it is the exact same body...







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