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#51 Eddie Fleming

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 09:01 AM

Looks great. Going for the hot motor first I see. 

looks like you let the front axle have plenty of side play. Just like the old days.
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Posted 21 February 2017 - 03:56 PM

Sweet ride...

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:15 PM

Thanks, guys. :) 

Yes, Eddie, a full 1/4" of front slop, just like the good ol' days.  :dance3:
 
The two motor thing isn't to see which one works better - it's to give the car two power choices.
It doesn't matter which is installed first - both were built with the expectation to perform well.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:29 PM

I thought I read somewhere the Cukras slop was 1/8". It shouldn't really matter as long as the chassis works. :)  

I'll have to look at some of my old chassis to see how I set them up.

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:59 PM

Hi Bill,  :wave: 

 

I used 1968 Car Model National Championship rules, 1/8" per side = 1/4" total slop.
 


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 04:44 PM

I just checked a few chassis I built with front axles and a couple old Tony P's. I have. They were all set up with 1/16" slop each side. These were early to mid-'70s chassis. As I said earlier, it really doesn't matter.

 

The F1 sketch in the 1968 Car Model National Championship rules indicates "1/8" total sideplay."


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 05:40 PM

Sir, the sketch says " 1/4" max sideplay total "


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:19 PM

The link you gave link in post #55 for the 1968 rules. The F1 sketch there clearly indicates 1/8" sideplay total, beside the right front. I don't know where you are seeing  "1/4" max sideplay total," but the sketch doesn't show 1/8" for each side, it indicates 1/8" total.


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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:39 PM

Sorry, you are correct. I now see that the numbers printed in Car Model didn't print clearly. It was only when I blew the sketch up to full-screen did I determine that what had looked like an 8 was actually a 4.

 

I'm not going to look for it, but if I come across the sketch and brief article I saw on the "Cukras axle slop," I'll let you know what it says. At the moment, I don't recall which magazine printed it.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:54 AM

Have a carrot for lunch.  :D I'll have an avocado.   :)

 

I'm guessing, but I think you may find the 1/8" total was used in coupe and sports car chassis.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 11:39 AM

No, I remember 1/4" side play on coupe and Can-Am. I also remember the side play was offset so the front tire on the left side would extend the most if you were running on a King track.
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Posted 25 February 2017 - 12:26 PM

Rules varied......oh my! :o

 

1968 ARCO:

 

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1968 Car Model National Championship:

 

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"Dont' worry, be happy!"  :crazy:

 

Thanks for sharing your build with us Pablo :thank_you2: Please carry on. :good:


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:25 PM

Thanks everybody :)  Capt. Rick, I ain't worried, I knew Bill would find the zoom feature on his browser :D

 

Did some testing on the piece of body in the photo, to avoid fumbling during painting. Discovered the following:

-lighter fluid doesn't affect butyrate plastic

-91% isopropyl alcohol smears it bad

-using cotton balls and/or Q-tips with Dawn and water doesn't affect it

 

All cutting/trimming/sanding on the rare body is done:

-bottom sanded flat and level on a block

-front wheel cutouts, cockpit, mirror mount holes, rear bodywork/gear relief area, and mounting holes, done

-all corners radiused by hand with automotive sandpaper

-insides scuffed with 0000 steel wool and Dawn

Warmack mirrors are made to be hand removable - I squeezed .063 retainers until they snug fit the posts.

Phenolic washers prevent them from scoring the paint

 

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I have two interior choices but haven't decided which to use yet.

Here is the one that came with the body. Fits the motor can nice, but I wish the arms were a little shorter

 

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:55 PM

No, I remember 1/4" side play on coupe and Can-Am. I also remember the side play was offset so the front tire on the left side would extend the most if you were running on a King track.

 

That would have helped in the donut, but not the finger or lead-on.


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Posted 26 February 2017 - 12:59 PM

The black styrene driver was too tall and too long, so I've decided to use this guy:

 

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Dremel surgery removed some of his back to lower him as far as possible over the can bushing housing

He needs a custom interior made so I'll be working on that

 

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Slapped a retired Noose painted retro F1 body on it for a track test next Saturday

 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:10 AM

Interior is nothing fancy, but functional.

Driver attached to the Lexan base via double sided wing tape

 

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Styrene roll bar attached via press-fit into reinforced layers of the base - adjustable, removable, and will flex in a crash.

Cutouts in the driver, base, and mounting tape allow Gurney to sit right atop the can bushing housing of both motors

 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:49 AM

Done

 

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:35 PM

Hi Pablo,

 

You know you got something when it looks fast just sitting there.

 

Very nice indeed...

 

 

Thanks,

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

Mr Gurney would like that one Pablo.

 

Sweet 


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:36 PM

Wow! Came out rather good :D  She's gonna fly !



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Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:10 PM

Pablo,

 

 SUPER build !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:10 PM

Sweet build! :good: :good: :good:


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:53 PM

Gorgeous car. Looks like it came right out of a Pro's box from the 60s.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:41 AM

Thank you, gentlemen :D

I relied heavily on dc-65x's Dynamic Eagle build and Steve Okeefe's Cukras chassis for guidance - special thanks to them :friends:


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:51 AM

A super clean build and a great looking car Pablo. :good:


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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:02 PM

Thanks Capt. Rick :D

Track test has been rescheduled for 1 April


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 09:43 PM

Track test 100% successful :sun_bespectacled: Zero problems.

Performance of both motor combinations was exactly as I hoped for and both ran ultra cool with zero vibration.

Handling is excellent, a very pleasant car to drive.

 

Mission accomplished :)


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 09:50 PM

Nice looking piece Paul!   :good:  :good:  :good:


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 06:10 PM

Thanks Jairus :D

A couple of final photos before she goes home this week

 

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Onward........


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 06:10 AM

I had the privilege of driving it a few laps and for a second I was transported back in time, only a lot faster. :D


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