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#1 Dennis David

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:08 PM

OK I know that not all slot cars race with four wheels but work with me here.  :D

 

I am just now starting work on my magnum opus on slot car racing around the world. The article will be on actual competitive racing and no, racing your brother on the carpet in your underwear does not count. We're talking 1/32 and 1/24, sorry HO.

 

Any Information on organizations, clubs, big races are most welcome. I already know about US racing and ISRA but what other big events are out there? I am also familiar with BSCRA which is holding their 53rd National Championship.

 

Thanks in advance.


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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:23 PM

Dennis Samson has some great info about the South African Model Car Association. He posted a nice thread with pics from their tracks in the past some time ago. 

 

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:38 PM

Yes as does Russell on the current scene. The slot car world is so vast. How many people are aware of the North European Championship in Malmo, Sweden?


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:24 AM

Zippity could help out about New Zealand racing, I'm thinking.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 07:37 AM

Yes I hope to get help from some of our international members.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:15 AM

Ok, I am not exactly sure what you are looking for.

 

However as far a Danish racing is converned, most clubs are a member of DMRU  = "Dansk Mini Racing Union".

It means that a fine vector to racing in Denmark is http://www.dmru.dk

 

This includes this very fine map of tracks and contacts: http://dmru.dk/klubb...ru-klubber.html

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:07 AM

This includes this very fine map of tracks and contacts: http://dmru.dk/klubb...ru-klubber.html

 
Wow! All I can think is "road trip!!!" Looks like no shortage of racing opportunities.
 
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:08 AM

Carsten, that's exactly what I am looking for! Thanks. I'm interested in groups that hold regular events that cross clubs as well as national boundaries.

Where racers would travel out of their immediate area to compete.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:22 AM

Eddie,

 

That could well be a side effect of my article. I will be sure to include an index of the info I receive.

 

Many of our international members also live in these silos and are unaware of the global nature of our hobby. It's not only us who are ignorant LOL.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:24 AM

Two areas I am curious about as well are Eastern Europe and Latin America.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:27 AM

Plus besides Haruki's group there is another major club in Japan that holds the Carerra Cup.

I'm also looking to see if there are any Plafit events. I know Scaleauto, BRM, NSR, MB Slot, and Slot.it sponsor major events.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:25 AM

The Viking Cup on the 29th is a good example where one club in Germany host racers from Denmark. There used to be a Gotthard Cup but I am not sure it's run any longer. In the Czech Republic they have a series called the Honda Cup.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:35 PM

Here in Australia we have just had the Wing Car Nationals over the Easter weekend and on the June Queens Birthday weekend is the Australian Model Car Nationals.In mid July is the Australian BRM Championship and late September is the Australian Plafit Championship
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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:41 PM

Does the Australian Plafit championship have a regular series as well? I assume it's not just a single race ir do the various clubs hold their hands own Plafit races.

How much involvement is there by the Japanese company?

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:47 PM

Hi Dennis,

 

The various commercial centres hold regular Plafit races. The Australian Plafit Championship is promoted by the Australian distributor Ace Hobbies and apart from the usual trophies for the placegetters there are also prizes given out for concours and TQ. This year's event is the 10th Anniversary for the titles


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:49 PM

Does the Japanese company get involved in any way? I assume they do though their distributor.

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Posted 23 April 2017 - 05:12 PM

Yes, Plafit through the Australian distributor Ace Hobbies sponsor the event and provide the prizes and hand-out motors.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 04:03 PM

Hi Dennis,

 

in Germany we have countless regional competitions between clubs. A good starting point for the series raced in West Germany is here:

 

http://rennserien-west.de/

 

All buttons under "Rennserien" lead to competitions. In the upper right corner under "Regionen" you will find links to similar pages from other German regions.

 

If you need help with translations, just let me know.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:08 PM

Sadly, there are no commercial raceways remaining in New Zealand.

 

1/32 and 1/24 scale cars are raced on club racetracks around the country.

 

Some clubs race both scales in soft and hard body formats.

 

Annual “Nationals” are held for all classes and formats.

 

My club with it’s six-lane track and being centrally located in the country, hosts both the 1/32 and 1/24 National events.

 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 03:52 PM

Thanks for the info. I find that most clubs get support from the government with reduced rent. Is that also the case with New Zealand?

Can a club earn extra income renting to other groups?

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 04:09 PM

No way, Jose.  :(

 

The monthly rental is met by the club members' race fees.



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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:33 PM

Just returned from Europe where I had the pleasure of visiting the legendary slot car shop Cric Crac and the well known club ICAR Indoor Slot Racing both in Igualada just outside of Barcelona, Spain. I'll post the results of my visit. Imagine six places to race within 30 kilometers.

 

A couple of observations that I have seen while doing research for my article is one, besides United States and Australia there are few if any commercial raceways that operate on the retail walk-in model. A few commercial raceways exist that are event driven where the owner may or may not own a facility with one or more tracks that they make available for clubs, organizations and parties. 

 

Rents overall are much lower then in the United States and are sometimes reduced by the local municipality. This happens mostly in Northern Europe. I have seen more than one club where the rent is $300-500 a month, something that we in the States would drool over. The result is while most club tracks in the US are small and in private homes, clubs overseas have tracks that are much larger. Large plastic tracks, while still common, are being replaced by wood tracks. Most of the wood tracks are flat and quite large by any standard. 

 

The types of cars that are raced run the gamut. While Eurosport and Wing cars have their fans; mostly in Eastern Europe it seems, Flexi-Chassis with 16D motors are raced. Scaleauto 1/24 is popular and for scale racers that want more speed LMP racing using sophisticated metal chassis and GFK bodies offer scale and speed. One thing that is quite different is that there seems to be a lot less crashes in these races compared to what you would see in a normal flexi race. Slot.it and to a lesser extent NSR 1/32 are also raced.

 

Two recent trends I find very interesting is the Danish F1 Retro with scale Lexan bodies and the 1/24 Klasse 1 series for Formula 1 cars. I recently purchased examples of each and will be building cars with some differences. Slightly faster motors and in the case of Danish Retro I will attempt to use more scale wheels.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:12 AM

Another thing thing that seems to be the case is that slot car racing will not disappear regardless of what happens in the United States and that our influence on the hobby is actually limited. The hobby is multi-polar and that there are developments taking place all over the world. 


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:26 PM

For two weeks I go to the UK every year to visit my son, daughter in law, and 2 grand kids at their village home in West Horsely near Guildford . We attend the Goodwood Revival, the most fantastical vintage auto racing celebration anywhere (and where one is encouraged to wear '50's era country tweeds- coat & tie necessary at some pavillions). When not at Goodwood have traveled throughout London, Surrey,  Essex, Kent, Dorset (by steam train from Victoria Station to Weymouth- a marvelous travel story itself).  Though I don't have time to seek out slot car tracks, clubs, etc, many hobby shops and toy stores  carry enormous inventories of 1/32 cars which, along with slot car forums indicate 1/32 racing is very alive, well, and active in the South of UK.

 

 If anyone is interested in UK's active main line steam railrway activities, and my 9 hour ride on '30's era railway carriages pulled by a large, high stepping steam locomotive, the Oliver Cromwell, I'll be happy to post my trip photos here.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:38 PM

Another thing thing that seems to be the case is that slot car racing will not disappear regardless of what happens in the United States and that our influence on the hobby is actually limited. The hobby is multi-polar and that there are developments taking place all over the world. 

Where has anyone suggested that might happen?

 

Or that the U.S. is the only driving force in slot racing?

 

That said, "that our influence on the hobby is actually limited", IMO, is really a stretch.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:43 PM

i think it has evolved and is less now than what it was in the past. This is just my observation and varies from country to country and is based on the classes of racing that are run at the clubs.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:29 PM

Since there’s now an emerging discussion about Americans' status in the world’s slot cars hobby, am interested in gauging how accurately does this forum represent this nation’s slot car community. What percentage  of  slot car aficionados across this country  are collectors of ‘60’s era stuff who choose not to run/race or can’t for lack of local commercial tracks or club tracks: how may race 1/24th; how many race 1/32, or HO; how many are regular commercial track denizens; how many are active club members racing regularly; how many have home tracks on which they occcasionally run their collections; how many are vintage slot car builders who don’t run/race but enjoy amassing  shelf collections; how many whose interest is more academic in that they once were active in some fashion but now are not. And of the total number of American slot car hobbiests what percentage are regular posters to this forum?


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:03 PM

Since there’s now an emerging discussion about Americans' status in the world’s slot cars hobby, am interested in gauging how accurately does this forum represent this nation’s slot car community.

 

And of the total number of American slot car hobbiests what percentage are regular posters to this forum?

I am going to guess that 1 in 100 slot car hobbyists are regular posters here. This guesstimate is taking into account all the mentioned participants in all scales. I may be way off. 1 in 200?

 

It always amazes me when the first and only time I see a track owner post here is to announce they are closing and sell their tracks. :dash2:


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:11 PM

Todd can we post this question in another thread?


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:27 PM

Just got this package from Niels in Denmark. Need to order up some special wheels from Germany. Building a stable of my take on Retro F1 Danish Style.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:36 PM

Two metal chassis to retrofit Carrera 1/24 Porsche 917 and Carrera 1/24 Ferrari 458 slot cars.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:39 PM

Scaleauto 1/24 Klasse 1 frame kit for my Buzzin Hornet.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:43 PM

1/32 Ferrari body to be mated to a Sloting + metal chassis.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 12:51 PM

A little bit of European slot car racing brought to the US. All will have sponge tires and made to race on a standard commercial flat track like this one at Rohnert Park, CA.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 02:24 PM

Just got this package from Niels in Denmark. Need to order up some special wheels from Germany. Building a stable of my take on Retro F1 Danish Style.

 

Do you already have the 3mm bore crown gears?


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Posted 25 May 2017 - 02:32 PM

They are easy to get from Scaleauto, etc., or Slotpoint. For my proposed Samson Noose/Honda F1 I will use 1/8". ;-)


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 05:57 PM

Got my chassis for the 1/32 Ferrari. Using a Slot.it Flat 6 motor and NSR wheels with Alpha Wonder Rubber in the rear.

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 08:09 PM

They are easy to get from Scaleauto, etc., or Slotpoint. For my proposed Samson Noose/Honda F1 I will use 1/8". ;-)

 

I was referring to your Danish brass F1 chassis. Last I knew, Niels was building for 3mm.


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 09:18 PM

Yes that's true, 3mm crown gears are available from Scaleauto (132 Slot Cars). 1/24 Scaleauto is all 3mm.

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 09:19 PM

From the 1:1 track, to the Slot Car Track in Australia.

 

A bit of background;

Between the early 60s and 1981 in Australia, tintop motor racing had been a competition between Ford, Holden (GM local build) and Chrysler, with loyal followers for each. Always healthy discussion ensued when a few guys with a few drinks got together, and the discussion turned to motor racing.

 

Unfortunately, Chrysler stopped building vehicles in 81, so it just became a Ford Vs Holden battle.

 

In 1991, a new series began, V8 Supercars was born, and it was strictly Ford Vs Holden up to a few years ago when other makes were allowed to enter and Mercedes, Volvo, and Nissan increased the field.

 

Cutting to the chase, a local racer (Cam Neilson) decided to develope a slot car series to emulate the big boys, so created a class of 1/24 scale cars to represent Ford, Holden, Volvo, Nissan and Mercedes.

Cam designed and manufactured the chassis, and organised for bodies and decals to be made by Patto. Cam also developed the rule set.

 

Slotworx has now become a 1/24 class in most major local, state or national competitions. I don't think there is a national comp going for it, but there could well be in the future.

 

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 09:21 PM

Take a look at what Slotworx produces, it's pretty amazing the level of investment. I wonder how large their market is.

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 09:28 PM

Here is a picture of the chassis. One of my "generalities" is that countries without the deep history of slot cars, which is basically any country besides the US and UK depend more on current 1:1 racing to generate interest in the hobby.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 08:57 PM

Added Slot.it running gear and a Scaleauto deep wood guide to the Sloting + chassis.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 10:50 AM

While in Barcelona recently I had the chance to visit ICAR Indoor Slot Racing with my host Xavi Tomas. The name of the club always struck me a little odd but then I was told in the 70s this was a RC club that raced indoor but eventually the club converted to slot cars which is the first time I ever heard that happening. They race mainly on two tracks with the bottom one under construction by Cric Crac. It is now finished and is hosting the third race in their LMP series.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 10:56 AM

Sorry for the orientation of this phot but blame Greg not me.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 10:57 AM

Upstairs track

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 11:01 AM

My type of racing ...

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 01:12 PM

In Denmark Niels Elmholt Christensen (Neckcheese) continues to produce his ever more popular Danish Style Retro F1. Many of these bodies are provided by John Dilworth or repops of old Lancer bodies. While some go out to collectors these cars are meant to be raced.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 01:18 PM

If you want to try something a little different from the upturned tails and squashed look of current Retro F1 cars try these rules I've reproduced here:

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 01:36 PM

These rules could be easily converted to US specs like 1 in rear tires and 1/8 inch axles, Hawk 25 motor. With basically zero downforce bodies you could chose to race the car you REALLY want without a major penalty. Probably better on flat tracks and the focus should be on zero crashes so you might even consider an additional crash time penalty after the race and/or a breakout time. I know this and going slower is all heracy.

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