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#1 Gene/ZR1

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 10:19 AM

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My original Shinoda Large Dart no. 2 (Dyna 16D), and the new Shinoda Large Dart no. 1.
 
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Profile view, (buried in the grass).
 
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Top view.
 
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Now with an angle winder concealed within. 
 
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Bottom view.
 
Just wondered if I could fit an anglewinder with in the Shinoda Large Dart body; yep, it fit very well.
 
Was just curious by combining old school construction with new school, but build it like the late 1966 era but with a twist.

I know the chassis is correct, but I have no idea how it will perform or even if this tiny Hawk motor (4.1 gear ratio) will even have the horsepower to make it go. I am not up to date on the new motors, just went by the motor specifications and small footprint.
 
If anything it is a good curiosity slot car into the unknown.
 
Thanks,

gene
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 12:07 PM

Wow Gene, that's a clever anglewinder.

 

I still try to use period motors but I can understand this application.

 

 

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 02:32 PM

Vintage period motors will eventually become unavailable.  I think Gene is on-to something here.

Nice build Gene!


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 11:53 AM

Nice!

 

I don't think you'll have any problem with lack of horsepower, but I don't have that much faith in .062 wire axles! Would recommend you

think about some bracing. You can't have too much bracing on open wheel cars. I usually have too little on my Retro Pro cars.

 

I don't remember what width was legal for F1/Indy back in the day. Was it 1.625 like the current Retro rules? In the '60s - '70s there wasn't as much

interest in open wheel cars as today, at least in the Kansas/Oklahoma/Texas areas where I raced. Of course, the motor package we had back then was

more bulky. It was a bit difficult to fit the motor entirely under the body.


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Posted 06 May 2017 - 02:57 PM

Cool Gene!  The only thing I would say has nothing to do with it not being "correct".  I figure that Thingies were supposed to go fast, so why not a pretty-warm C can motor?  Still, I like you're style.


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Posted 07 May 2017 - 05:26 PM

HI John

 The Hawk motor was very inexpensive and small, and any other motor excluding strap motor would not fit up. 

I was just wanted hide the angle winder setup, plus hopefully it would run good.

 

 Also, I thought just building a 1966 style chassis with a modern power plant. Sort of like a 59 Vette with a fresh crate motor, looks original from the outside, until you mash the pedal.

 

Retro; Shinoda, old style Shinoda builds with fresh horse power of your choice, just like the old day's, but in 2017, anything goes.

 Everyone can build one of these, plenty of bodies available.

 

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 05:33 PM

Richard;

 

The 1/16 wire front axle works great.

 

The no.2 car as shown was built in 1966 and has survived years of hard hits, here's the secrete, have a pair of needle nose pliers in your pocket.

 

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Posted 07 May 2017 - 05:46 PM

I think Richard's post was on the assumption the car was being run in competition.

 

If it's not, who cares?

 

Of course, it represents what was used in that era.

 

The 1/16" axle works fine, as long as you don't hit anything.

 

We use to play with an American Line, 36D inline, hot rod.

 

Contrary to the rest of the super-beefy construction(1/16" brass?), it had a drop axle.

 

We would take turns, seeing who could go the fastest.

 

Anytime it fell off, even with my soft walls, it had to be put back on the test block, and readjusted.


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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:00 PM

The 1\16 piano wire front axle was use almost by everyone and in races., most used the Buzco drop axle @ $0.15 each, I still have a bunch.

Most cars were beefy, but not that heavy, but appear very heavy,

 

The proxy car I built Don Siegel, ''the Pace car'' looked like a tank, but it wasn't, it did win the proxy series.

 

now  I need more of the Buzco narrow fronts.

 

go to;

''Shinoda builds from the junk'' yard for examples.

 

it's all about fun anyhow

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