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[MSwiss]

Gugu had these at the recent USRA Div. 2 Nats.
 
In his ten-lap win in Eurosport F1, he told others changing to this guide, gave him a .2 improvement in pre-race testing.
 
I did an A/B comparison, with a local racer's Hardbody car. I went, on black, from a 6.19 best to a 6.05.
 
That said, I really didn't notice how the car felt or drove any differently.
 
The description of this guide is that it gives you the equivalent of a longer guide lead. Compared to his existing flag, I'm not sure if that's the right description.
 
The braid does wind up further forward.
 
Cutdown (only) - unthreaded - $5.50 each.
Cutdown, but threaded by me. - $6.00 each.
 


The available colors... at the moment.



I tried to line up the posts the best I could. The older Red Fox is on the left. A Parma is on the right.



Blade comparison. On the left, a red, Red Fox compared to a Parma. 1.050" vs. .978".
On the right, you can see the new Red Fox isn't any longer, comparing it to the bottom of the old one. Actually about .005" shorter.

[Tim Wilkins]

Glad they have a threaded version of these.  Wasn't available in the old style.

[MSwiss]

No, I thread them.

[MSwiss]

I have some pics up in the top thread, along with some blade length dimension info.

[MSwiss]

I got a good question on FB from Eric Gehrken.

He asked if you have to open up the tongue hole.

I had checked, when I got some samples last week, and just double-checked.

Unlike the old guides, the new ones are not oversize.

They are an identical fit, possibly a hair looser.

Also, the black ones are dyed.

When threading, they show white.

[Mr. M]

Mike,

Is the material the same as the incumbent?

Chris

[MSwiss]

I'm guessing it is.

IOW, the harder stuff.

Not the material the flags molded in black, were.

[MSwiss]

OK.

There was confusion on the price. My dist charged me, based on the old price.

Anyone who ordered yesterday, will get the previously advertised price.

Yesterday's orders cleaned me out.

Any new orders will be at the new price, and shipped on Monday, when I get more in.

The original post is corrected.

Here are those correct prices;

Cutdown (only) - unthreaded - $5.50 each.
Cutdown, but threaded by me - $6.00 each.

[W. J. Dougherty]

Which dists have them so I can tell my track owner?

[MSwiss]

I got mine through Eagle.

[W. J. Dougherty]

Is there model number or anything to differentiate it from the previous version?

[MSwiss]

Have your raceway ask for the; New style Red Fox cut-down guides

[Robert BG]

Mike any word on how they work on a wing car?and can i do a CC over the phone if my track cant get them in?

[MSwiss]

No wing info.

 

Keep in mind the braid inserts in the flag further up, so it might effect your clearance up at the diaplane.

 

Yes. I can be reached all the time at 708-203-8003.

[Robert BG]

Thanks Mike,yeah it definitely would require some thought in the body department.

[Jim Lange]

Mike, the old style RF guides seemed to have about 2* up built in. Are the new ones the same? Thanks

[gotboostedvr6]

You or whoever is threading your guide may be inducing the up angle during the threading process.

[MSwiss]

I really don't want to get into the 2 degree guessing game.

Red Fox Raceway has a FB page.

I suggest getting your answer from the horse's mouth, Gugu.

[MSwiss]

I forgot to mention, even though the shaft is smaller in diameter, than the original ones, when threading your own, I suggest using a thread cutting fluid.

 

While I'm sure there are probably superior industrial items, WD40 is an easy to obtain item, that does a great job.

[Steve Deiters]

Good for .2 I guess depends has the controller in his hand. LOL  Cool colors.

[MSwiss]

You have to remember that was with a 1/32 car, on a long, highly technical track, where 7 second+ laps were being turned.

My times on black decreased quite a bit with a Hardbody (over a .1).

[MSwiss]

I witnessed the new Red Fox guide perform well, this past Saturday, at the F2000 (wing) Nats.

 

Michael Iga took the G27 race win by 11 laps.

 

Most impressive was his performance on the make-or-break, Black lane.

 

He ran 2 more laps, and was over a .1 faster, than the next closest competitor.

 

He also had the fastest overall race lap.

 

In the midst of the event, I also got a PM from a renowned racer, previously skeptical, of any advantage.

 

He quoted a .1+ second (a tenth) improvement, with his LMP car on a flatter (but very fast) Gerding King, and placed a repeat order, for 10 flags.

[MSwiss]

All of yesterday's orders for these, did get shipped yesterday.

Either before front desk closing, on the morning/afternoon orders, or at the kiosk, on my way home, for the evening orders.

Interestingly, approx. 72% of the orders have been for threaded ones.

I may need a new can of WD40 soon. LOL.

[MSwiss]

As the above alludes to, Tony got his and used them.

 

He took the win in Stock Car.

 

His testimony, from another thread here, on guide blade length.

 

Ran them on my Stock Car and Can-Am today. Both cars were really good. No time to do an A-B test on race morning but I noticed the stock car was really hooked up.

 

This was on the Holly Hill semi flat track. I felt the biggest improvement was in the deadman, a turn I always struggle in.

[MSwiss]

I suspected these new guide flags would find their way to the winner's circle at Retropalooza.

Congrats to Will Brinkley on taking the win in Can-Am Plus.