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#1 MSwiss

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:53 PM

Gugu had these at the recent USRA Div. 2 Nats.
 
In his ten-lap win in Eurosport F1, he told others changing to this guide, gave him a .2 improvement in pre-race testing.
 
I did an A/B comparison, with a local racer's Hardbody car. I went, on black, from a 6.19 best to a 6.05.
 
That said, I really didn't notice how the car felt or drove any differently.
 
The description of this guide is that it gives you the equivalent of a longer guide lead. Compared to his existing flag, I'm not sure if that's the right description.
 
The braid does wind up further forward.
 
Cutdown (only) - unthreaded - $5.50 each.
Cutdown, but threaded by me. - $6.00 each.
 
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The available colors... at the moment.

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I tried to line up the posts the best I could. The older Red Fox is on the left. A Parma is on the right.

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Blade comparison. On the left, a red, Red Fox compared to a Parma. 1.050" vs. .978".
On the right, you can see the new Red Fox isn't any longer, comparing it to the bottom of the old one. Actually about .005" shorter.
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:58 PM

Glad they have a threaded version of these.  Wasn't available in the old style.


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:00 PM

No, I thread them.
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 04:29 PM

I have some pics up in the top thread, along with some blade length dimension info.


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Posted 10 May 2017 - 07:32 PM

I got a good question on FB from Eric Gehrken.

He asked if you have to open up the tongue hole.

I had checked, when I got some samples last week, and just double-checked.

Unlike the old guides, the new ones are not oversize.

They are an identical fit, possibly a hair looser.

Also, the black ones are dyed.

When threading, they show white.
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 08:49 PM

Mike,

Is the material the same as the incumbent?

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Posted 10 May 2017 - 09:10 PM

I'm guessing it is.

IOW, the harder stuff.

Not the material the flags molded in black, were.

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Posted 11 May 2017 - 11:39 AM

OK.

There was confusion on the price. My dist charged me, based on the old price.

Anyone who ordered yesterday, will get the previously advertised price.

Yesterday's orders cleaned me out.

Any new orders will be at the new price, and shipped on Monday, when I get more in.

The original post is corrected.

Here are those correct prices;

Cutdown (only) - unthreaded - $5.50 each.
Cutdown, but threaded by me - $6.00 each.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:22 PM

Which dists have them so I can tell my track owner?


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 03:29 PM

I got mine through Eagle.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:47 PM

Is there model number or anything to differentiate it from the previous version?
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Posted 11 May 2017 - 04:49 PM

Have your raceway ask for the; New style Red Fox cut-down guides
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Posted 11 May 2017 - 07:54 PM

Mike any word on how they work on a wing car?and can i do a CC over the phone if my track cant get them in?


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:05 PM

No wing info.

 

Keep in mind the braid inserts in the flag further up, so it might effect your clearance up at the diaplane.

 

Yes. I can be reached all the time at 708-203-8003.


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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:26 PM

Thanks Mike,yeah it definitely would require some thought in the body department.


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Posted 12 May 2017 - 01:09 AM

Mike, the old style RF guides seemed to have about 2* up built in. Are the new ones the same? Thanks



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Posted 12 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

You or whoever is threading your guide may be inducing the up angle during the threading process.

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 09:38 AM

I really don't want to get into the 2 degree guessing game.

Red Fox Raceway has a FB page.

I suggest getting your answer from the horse's mouth, Gugu.
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Posted 12 May 2017 - 02:34 PM

I forgot to mention, even though the shaft is smaller in diameter, than the original ones, when threading your own, I suggest using a thread cutting fluid.

 

While I'm sure there are probably superior industrial items, WD40 is an easy to obtain item, that does a great job.


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Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:27 PM

Good for .2 I guess depends has the controller in his hand. LOL  Cool colors.



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Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:56 PM

You have to remember that was with a 1/32 car, on a long, highly technical track, where 7 second+ laps were being turned.

My times on black decreased quite a bit with a Hardbody (over a .1).

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:17 PM

I witnessed the new Red Fox guide perform well, this past Saturday, at the F2000 (wing) Nats.

 

Michael Iga took the G27 race win by 11 laps.

 

Most impressive was his performance on the make-or-break, Black lane.

 

He ran 2 more laps, and was over a .1 faster, than the next closest competitor.

 

He also had the fastest overall race lap.

 

In the midst of the event, I also got a PM from a renowned racer, previously skeptical, of any advantage.

 

He quoted a .1+ second (a tenth) improvement, with his LMP car on a flatter (but very fast) Gerding King, and placed a repeat order, for 10 flags.


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 12:29 PM

All of yesterday's orders for these, did get shipped yesterday.

Either before front desk closing, on the morning/afternoon orders, or at the kiosk, on my way home, for the evening orders.

Interestingly, approx. 72% of the orders have been for threaded ones.

I may need a new can of WD40 soon. LOL.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 08:21 PM

As the above alludes to, Tony got his and used them.

 

He took the win in Stock Car.

 

His testimony, from another thread here, on guide blade length.

 

Ran them on my Stock Car and Can-Am today. Both cars were really good. No time to do an A-B test on race morning but I noticed the stock car was really hooked up.

 

This was on the Holly Hill semi flat track. I felt the biggest improvement was in the deadman, a turn I always struggle in.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 11:06 PM

I suspected these new guide flags would find their way to the winner's circle at Retropalooza.

Congrats to Will Brinkley on taking the win in Can-Am Plus.
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Posted 02 June 2017 - 04:08 AM

Purple ones are the fastest! :)
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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:54 PM

Congrats to Dom Luongo on his Retropalooza TQ's, both yesterday in Can-Am Plus, and today in Stocker.

 

I got in my 5th order of RF guides in today, buying the rest of what my dist. had in stock.


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Posted 03 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

Congrats to Greg Fox on winning the FNRS LMP race, at MMW, using the new Red Fox guide.


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Posted 04 June 2017 - 10:08 AM

I also TQ'd with these in FK Coupe and Pro Coupe with these. They are definitely a little smoother and a touch quicker.

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Posted 04 June 2017 - 10:53 AM

I also TQ'd with these in FK Coupe and Pro Coupe with these. They are definitely a little smoother and a touch quicker.

Dom, did Bob run them?

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Posted 04 June 2017 - 12:41 PM

I believe he ran them in all the classes.

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 03:29 PM

Had Red Fox guides on all my cars this weekend, including the race-winning F1 car. Have to say, they did create some havoc with how my bodies were mounted (I always have the nose very close to the guide), but the hassle of moving the body was well worth the gain in performance with the guide.
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Posted 05 June 2017 - 08:05 PM

James,

Along with my pics, I mentioned the braid winds up further forward.
 
I guess I'll have to wait for the Noose report, but I'm pretty sure they were on all the winning cars at Retropalooza, along with all the winning cars at Flexi National Series Race at MMW on Saturday.
 
Congrats on putting a "built at the race" car in the winners circle.
 
Best I've done was sixth in GTC, out of 52 cars, and fourth in Can-Am, out of 60 cars, at R4/2.
 
The first lap the GTC car (with a TSR hand-out) took was lap one of the race.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 01:31 PM

For those looking for RF guides, and particular colors, I got my shipment in and will accommodate filling particular colors the best I can.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:46 PM

There have been reports of a few snapped posts, threading them, and one breaking on the track.

 

I've done a few hundred, including about a dozen, dry, when in a hurry, and haven't had an issue, but I've been using a threader that worked well with the original ones, the old GT1.

 

Along with using lubricant like WD40, if you are detecting any resistance, I suggest backing off, relubricating, and continuing slowly.

 

Also some guide nuts take a lot of effort to get on, and will snap a post. Particularly tight, is the Koford solid brass. The one that seems the easiest to thread on, are the nylon type. If your application has room for the tall nylon nut, I suggest using them. If you need them, I will sell them to you for a quarter each. I only have black.

 

While I'm not sure if it will help, I did go to boiling the latest batch (that came in today). I also soaked a smaller amount, in hot water, yesterday. If these are made from nylon, which I don't have an idea if they are, the water should help. Keep in mind, that they were probably already boiled when dyeing.

 

I did weigh them, both times, before and after they saw water, and the weight did go up almost 1 percent.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:03 PM

The Red Fox guide nuts worked best for me on the old versions.

Possibly could on the new versions.


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 07:29 PM

I threaded a bunch at Port Jeff this past weekend. I used the same method I always did on the old ones, while the guy pitted next to me ended up snapping off the post in his guide threader as he was told he could leave it alone. 

 

Trim at least 1/8" off the post using a cut-off wheel, round off the edge of the post using either the side of the cutoff wheel or a sharp hobby knife, oil your guide threading tool, and proceed. Back it off if it feels like it is binding up, and slowly turn down again.

I used Sonic Grape Nuts on my own guides, but also used the inexpensive nylon guide nuts on a few others.

 

If you own Mike's Backtrack Guide Buddy tool, or similar, take an additional step. Install a set of leadwire clips and junk braids into the guide, and use the sanding feature to level the bottom. I noticed the "bump" created when a Parma braid gets pushed in is pretty significant, enough that it is worth taking it down 


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Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:37 PM

Lots of good advice, James,

Thanks for sharing it.
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Posted 08 June 2017 - 08:58 PM

Trim at least 1/8" off the post using a cut-off wheel, round off the edge of the post using either the side of the cutoff wheel or a sharp hobby knife, oil your guide threading tool, and proceed. Back it off if it feels like it is binding up, and slowly turn down again.
I used Sonic Grape Nuts on my own guides, but also used the inexpensive nylon guide nuts on a few others.

 

I helped one of my customers with threading and installing the nut.

The nylon nut went on nice and square, but it seemed like an even bigger pain to get started than the older ones.

Putting a big chamfer on the post, and rerunning the threader over it, was the only way I was able to get the nylon nut on.

 

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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:21 PM

I have had only good luck threading these so far. Performance is great!

 

As a tip, I picked up a bag of ten brass washers, #10, for a couple of bucks at Fastenal when purchasing some 10/32 nylon nuts. These washers are 35 thou thick. By my measure, one of these on the cut-down guide brings the guide to exactly non-cut-down height if your set-up doesn't need a cut-down guide. A quick trim of one edge of the washer allows it to slip into place. The hole is a bit oversized but it really doesn't matter since its role is only as a spacer. I faced the washers across a file to remove the slight edge, and Bob's your uncle, a non-cut-down guide ready for service.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 04:44 AM

Maybe it's me but these seem to thread much straighter with no wobble. Well, Mike Swiss probably threads them straighter than I do. The plastic nuts work great on them.

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 05:58 PM

I think we all owe Gugu a big thank you for coming up with this great new guide and Swiss for bringing it to the attention of the masses.
 
Thanks, guys.
 
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:54 AM

GVP, well said and exactly correct!
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:26 PM

Well worth $.50 to have Mike thread them. I got a few this last weekend and snapped off the first one I threaded. Now I have crap inside my threader. I drilled it out, but still have some in there.
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:05 PM

Get a matching tap of the same thread. That might clean it out, Once when I had no tap, I put a sharp point on the end of .032" piano wire, bent the point at 90 degrees, and picked the remnants out.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:50 PM

Well worth $.50 to have Mike thread them. I got a few this last weekend and snapped off the first one I threaded. Now I have crap inside my threader. I drilled it out, but still have some in there.

 

You can try heating it up to get it crispy and easier to pick out.

Yes, it's probably worth the 50 cents to have me do it since my particular threader seems to work real well.

I just got a FB PM from John Gorski, complimenting me on the job I did on the ones he just got from me.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:31 PM

I used Sonic Grape Nuts on my own guides, but also used the inexpensive nylon guide nuts on a few others.

 

I got Sonic Grape Nuts back in.

 

$2.40 retail.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:17 PM

I just threaded the 10 Mike sent me with my Cahoza threader. The flags fit very tight – but once I got the alignment right – and used oil to help with cutting – they all went fine with no issues! Just be sure to use a little oil a couple of times while you're cutting – that will help clear the threads and lubricate the threads!!
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

Congrats to Dale Yamashita on his F1 and Can-Am wins, this past weekend, on the BP flat track, using the new RF guide.

Dale also TQ'd in Can-Am.

Bryan Warmack TQ'd in F1, and finished second, also using the RF guide.

The above two, top racers, of course, are usually battling for the win, so even more significant was Bryan's testing on the Gerding King that cofirmed the .08- .1 improvement many other top racers have cited.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:06 PM

I sent 8 of these to Noose for Retro East™'s annual 6 Hour Enduro at Speedzone in Mt. Holly.
 
Along with threading them, I boiled them ahead of time.
 
I'm not sure if it will help, but I don't think it could hurt.
 
I also sent nylon nuts as most seem to think they go on well, once you get them started, which is still a little bit of a pain.
 
While I've played with coning the end, I haven't gotten consistent enough of results, to do it on these.
 
To help, what I have done, is to permanently add another nut to my driver, so it fills up the recess more,  so you can get a little more force, when you are bearing down.
 
That extra nut really helps getting the job done.
 
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