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#1 brucefl

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 06:09 PM

I bid and lost, it went for $338. It says it has Bill Steube motor, but the chassis looks way too sloppy for Gilbert. What do you think?

So tell the truth, which one of you guys beat me out in the auction?

 

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Posted 14 May 2017 - 08:29 PM

I looked at this chassis several days ago when it was at less than $30. The signature engraved on the droparm looked to be a genuine Lee Gilbert autograph. I saw a few rough solder joints on this chassis too, but figured they had been touched up by someone else.

 

In addition to built chassis, Lee also sold pre-bent and cut kits through West Seattle Speedway & Hobby that you only needed to solder the parts together. These kits didn't carry Lee's signature. I had one of these Gilbert kits in the early '70s.


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 06:24 AM

Motor may have a Checkpoint armature but it's not a Steube-built motor. Chassis looks like lots of repairs by owner.


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 09:25 AM

I studied it when it popped up last week. I think it's genuine and I followed it till it went over $200. Never bid because I think that's all it's worth.

But like others have said, it's the real deal... but been altered a time or two. The motor probably has a replacement arm in it by now and those front wheels? Blah...


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Posted 07 April 2018 - 01:59 PM

Come on look at the way those bat pans are cut that's a rank amateur (and certainly not from a previous cut kit which I'm sure would be perfect).
So unless someone wants to tell me Lee was sloppy in cutting or some in solder joint,that can't be an authentic Lee Gilbert chassis (maybe it was a relatively good amateur chassis,signed and peddled as authentic years ago and the gentleman who sold it couldn't document).
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:34 PM

That's still a genuine Gilbert chassis. But one that has been resoldered & modified in places by someone with less talent than Lee. The pans & drop arm on this chassis are Parma items, not something cut out by Lee or anyone else.  The rough cuts you're seeing at the pan's fronts are someones feeble attempt to fit those cone-shaped front wheels. At the price you quoted in post #1, somebody overpaid  for a signed chassis that has not been assembled into a first class car, nor does it have any documentation.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 06:38 PM

Comparing my Lee Gilbert chassis that was in a Dave Howard RTR auctioned off at Speed & Sport to this one also make me say that Lee or his sidekick Larry Halter built it. The engraving is identical. No way is that a "Bill Steube Sr." motor. I bid up to $125 for the Billy Steube RTR but Mr. Stephan being a banker won the bid for his son John. I did get a pretty good deal on the Howard car, never raced it but used as a looker car.

 

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:27 PM

Why don't the retro guys design follow this direction of development?  What changed?  Tires & glue?



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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:55 AM

Looks like a Lee chassis to me.

Yes, it has some wear and tear with some not quite prime time repairs/mods.

Lee didn’t build 100% of his chassis. Lee approached me to build his production cars back in 1970. I declined, as I was working on winning the LA Car Model Cup with my stuff. Still felt honored he felt my work was good enough to put his name on.
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 02:30 AM

Tom is/was a first rate chassis builder back in the day plus one heck of a nice guy. That being said not enough people recognize Tom as a top tier builder.

 

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 08:04 AM

Tom:

Can you post photos of some of your chassis?  The Tom Hansen legend goes deep, but like myself if you've been deprived of experiencing your artistry there's a void.  I may have seen one in the racing news back in the day, and what i remember was sweet, so please honor us with some of your works.

Thanks for posting here, and maybe you are the guy who can figure out and build for me the Roy Wong idler gear car. Specifically the one with the 1 inch wide drop arm (along the lines of the Lewis sidewinder) with a champion can, 24 single arm, and Faas gear.  Regardless, thanks and looking forward to seeing your works.

 

Looks like a Lee chassis to me.

Yes, it has some wear and tear with some not quite prime time repairs/mods.

Lee didn’t build 100% of his chassis. Lee approached me to build his production cars back in 1970. I declined, as I was working on winning the LA Car Model Cup with my stuff. Still felt honored he felt my work was good enough to put his name on.


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 01:35 PM

Thanks Jesse and Bruce for the kudos.

 

I won't be the one to create a copy of someone else's chassis as I'm not too much into recreating the past, let alone someone else's.


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 02:07 PM

Tom is/was a first rate chassis builder back in the day plus one heck of a nice guy. That being said not enough people recognize Tom as a top tier builder.

 

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Tom is a first rate chassis builder TODAY and is one of the true nice guys in racing today. Tom's results are a testimony to his ability to build winning cars in any class.


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Posted 17 October 2018 - 06:22 PM

I agree with you Mike, that's why I said "is/was" in my praise for his work. I bought some of his stuff when he was on his way home from the Hemisfair race as his VW was acting up and he needed to get back to LA. He first visited family in Springerville AZ, small world my family has roots there too. Been friends ever since.

 

Gee Tom still drives VeeDubs.

 

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Posted 18 October 2018 - 10:28 AM

Jesse, That trip to Sullivan's for the 4th of July race was my 1st adventure traveling after getting out of a boarding high school. I now could race (and build) more than once a month or so. I actually saw family in Ok, NM, Texas and AZ. Plus I have a bunch of really funny memories from the Dallas race (I did make the main in SemiPro). I also stopped off in Phoenix the following year returning from the Cleveland NCC race, which that trip will have a highlight or two in PDL's new upcoming book. ;)


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