Jump to content




Photo

This must be a rare K&B RTR


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 grooverunner

grooverunner

    Backmarker

  • Subscriber
  • PipPip
  • 90 posts
  • Joined: 10-December 15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MA

Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:32 PM

Hi,

 

Saw this the other night. Must have been really rare for the money it brought on eBay: $2,850!

 

j1.jpg

 

j2.jpg

 

j3.jpg

 

j4.jpg

 

j5.jpg


  • Maximo likes this
Ken  Hill




#2 Cheater

Cheater

    Headmaster of the asylum

  • Root Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,917 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norcross, GA

Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:48 PM

I've never seen one...

 

Notice the Dan Gurney "bump" in the roof.


Gregory Wells

Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap


#3 Mattb

Mattb

    Race Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 965 posts
  • Joined: 13-August 11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:IN

Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:00 PM

It is a really rare car. Not a great piece, just hard to ever find one. This one was mint and had the original display base, those two things probably added a thousand!


Matt Bishop

Vintage Cox Slot Cars

#4 Cheater

Cheater

    Headmaster of the asylum

  • Root Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,917 posts
  • Joined: 14-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Norcross, GA

Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:02 PM

Wonder if Scott Bader snagged it?


Gregory Wells

Never forget that first place goes to the racer with the MOST laps, not the racer with the FASTEST lap


#5 grooverunner

grooverunner

    Backmarker

  • Subscriber
  • PipPip
  • 90 posts
  • Joined: 10-December 15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MA

Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:03 PM

Greg,

 

Never seen one either, that's why I posted it.

 

I noticed the Gurney bump too, the whole body is very nicely detailed.

 

I looked in PdL's vintage slot car book. He mentions it on page 51. It's a inline Kangaroo chassis and a very rare blue GT40 MkII body.

 

Hopefully PdL can fill use in on this car.

 

Ken


Ken  Hill

#6 Mattb

Mattb

    Race Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 965 posts
  • Joined: 13-August 11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:IN

Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:12 PM

I figure it was Scott.   


Matt Bishop

Vintage Cox Slot Cars

#7 Maximo

Maximo

    Checkered Flag in Hand

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,147 posts
  • Joined: 31-August 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Braunfels, TX

Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:12 PM

You can never out-bid Darth Bader for the nicest slot car stuff on eBay for his private collection.

 

-maXimo


  • Cheater likes this
David Ray Siller
Thingies are my thingie!

#8 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,831 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 19 May 2017 - 08:26 AM

Wow, missed that - and I've never seen one in that good condition. A couple "used" ones have come up over the years, including this one I found several years ago, since restored as much as possible... 

 

KB%20Ford%20MKII-front_zpsrfllnewe.jpg

 

Never really noticed the Gurney bump either! While it did have the original wheels, they were so corroded that in fact broke when I tried to unscrew them... and the screws on the chassis had seized up, so wound up using another chassis as well. Since then PdL has kindly donated some real rear wheels. The real fronts are simpler than this too, but I liked the K&B "sidewalls! 

 

KB%20Ford%20MKII-rear_zpsz7l8fyq6.jpg

 

For info, the inline version of this chassis is not a Kangaroo, but a Hot Shot. 

 

Hmm, thought I had a scan of the ad, but can't find it - will scan if anybody is interested... 

 

Don 


  • grooverunner likes this

#9 TSR

TSR

    The Dokktor is IN

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 41,419 posts
  • Joined: 02-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mexifornia

Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:30 PM

The LASCM was not the buyer of this scarce model, it did not even bid on it. The reason being that there are already several examples in the LASCM's vaults, including two MIB.

Ford Mk II RTR

The body tooling was crafted by Tony Bulone, and he also produced the bodies for K&B from this plate:

DSCF1573.JPG

He also produced the intricate inner details.

This one is the third example of that Ford Mk II we have seen in recent time, but is far from being the rarest 1960s slot car out there.

 

If one had to make an actual list, I would begin with the International "Furious Fiat" to lead the pack, followed by a slew of others before that Ford would be listed. I can think of the BZ Chaparral 2E as a nice candidate in the "top 10"...


  • Jencar17 and Tex like this

#10 grooverunner

grooverunner

    Backmarker

  • Subscriber
  • PipPip
  • 90 posts
  • Joined: 10-December 15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MA

Posted 27 June 2017 - 11:43 PM

Philippe,

Thank you for your informative input.

Ken
  • Cheater likes this
Ken  Hill

#11 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,831 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:34 AM

Philippe,

 

I believe that the Mk II in the museum has a Cox guide, not the original K&B, which was a unique item... 

 

Don 



#12 TSR

TSR

    The Dokktor is IN

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 41,419 posts
  • Joined: 02-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mexifornia

Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:56 AM

Don, well observed!

The pics on the website show one of the three or four loose cars at the LASCM grabbed for a quick picture, and indeed that one has a Cox guide. The ones MIB and the other loose cars have the correct original guide.

The K&B guide is slightly tapered and very characteristic. Here is a picture of the underneath of a 'correct' car:

P1070212.JPG

 



#13 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,831 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:17 AM

Much better! Be careful, the LASCM is a reference for us, so do not take your guides lightly... 

 

The K&B guide is kind of neat, in fact: sort of an attempt before? or concurrently with? the Cox for a quick change guide, where the wire clipped on the guide, but I think the wire still had to be soldered... 


  • Cheater likes this

#14 TSR

TSR

    The Dokktor is IN

  • Full Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 41,419 posts
  • Joined: 02-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Mexifornia

Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

I will rush to the LASCM to correct that awful error!  :)

In fact it is bizarre that the model in question that appears to have never been run, has a different guide... why the change??? Is it possible that K&B ran out of guides and purchased some from Cox? After all, Riggen and other companies did just that... Phaze III, Cobra, Mura, DB... and the Cox guide was the most popular guide in "pro" racing until the advent of the SimCo "Jet Flag."

The Cox "quick-change" guide was issued in early 1966, the K&B semi-copy late in 1966, so no confusion. Also Cox had a patent pending, so K&B could not use the same system, so the terminals on the K&B guide are different.



#15 don.siegel

don.siegel

    Posting Leader

  • Subscriber
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,831 posts
  • Joined: 17-February 06
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Paris, France

Posted 30 June 2017 - 05:25 AM

Ah, found the original ad, not that there's been any clamor for it... 

 

KB%20Ford%20MKII%20ad-CM0867_zpsogueextj







Electric Dreams Online Shop